I don't know about you guys, but i'm locking out my players.

[The BBKL Insider]

CBA talk here


Not looking good after todays 'counter proposal'


Cammy called the proposal "the same junk, just worded differently"

[kyuss]

http://bbkl.ca/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=8202

[Peter]

blah

[Phion Keneuf]

Proposed Salary Caps: all projected and fixed: 2012/13 - $58M 2013/14 -$60M. 2014/15-$62M. 2015/16-$64.2M. 2016/17 - $67.6M 2017/18 - $71.1M


58 mil next year cap? i can shed some i guess lol

poor Minnesota, bye bye Heatley or Backstrom

[The BBKL Insider]

if the cap goes down, so will players salaries....so, if the cap drops 10mil, roughly 20%, you'd have to think the players salaries will roll back an equal amount.

[Nick]

not correct - missing escrow amounts.

actually that entire breakdown is filled with errors. Not even worth working off of.

[Nick]

Actually decipherable:
NHL proposed a 6 year term today.

Players Share:
2012/13 - 51.6%
2013/14 - 50.5%
2014/15 - 49.6%
2015/16 - 50%
2016/17 - 50%
2017/18 - 50%

And something happening with HHR.

On a whole this feels like a move to the middle, that 50/50 split is the basis for conversation IMO.

[Nick]

Proposed Salary Caps: all projected and fixed: 2012/13 - $58M 2013/14 -$60M. 2014/15-$62M. 2015/16-$64.2M. 2016/17 - $67.6M 2017/18 - $71.1M

This is weird terminology. Fixed cap - that sounds familiar, but projected from growth amounts? 60M from 70Mish seems like more then a 5.4% drop (57-->51.6).

[bills09]

fuck if thats the case im over the cap haha.

[MSP4LYFE]

fuck if thats the case im over the cap haha.

If the cap does down by a significant margin, then player salaries will be rolled back accordingly.

[hong57]

fuck if thats the case im over the cap haha.

most ppl will be.. haha..

[bills09]

if the cap goes down, so will players salaries....so, if the cap drops 10mil, roughly 20%, you'd have to think the players salaries will roll back an equal amount.

The current NHL proposal does not include a roll back of any kind.
I personally think this is a pretty fair offer from the owners and gives me hope something will get done.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=404044

[MSP4LYFE]

if the cap goes down, so will players salaries....so, if the cap drops 10mil, roughly 20%, you'd have to think the players salaries will roll back an equal amount.

The current NHL proposal does not include a roll back of any kind.
I personally think this is a pretty fair offer from the owners and gives me hope something will get done.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=404044

Correct me if I'm wrong Nick, but this is my understanding of all of this.

The proposed deal involves players putting a larger percentage of their salaries into escrow. If at the end of the year the total salary was under the HHR%, then the players get all the money back + interest. If the total salaries add up to more than the %, then the owners get money back to bring the total player salary down to the % and whatever is left over goes to the players. Since the proposal involves increasing the HHR% it essentially serves the same purpose as a roll back.

[bills09]

if the cap goes down, so will players salaries....so, if the cap drops 10mil, roughly 20%, you'd have to think the players salaries will roll back an equal amount.

The current NHL proposal does not include a roll back of any kind.
I personally think this is a pretty fair offer from the owners and gives me hope something will get done.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=404044

Correct me if I'm wrong Nick, but this is my understanding of all of this.

The proposed deal involves players putting a larger percentage of their salaries into escrow. If at the end of the year the total salary was under the HHR%, then the players get all the money back + interest. If the total salaries add up to more than the %, then the owners get money back to bring the total player salary down to the % and whatever is left over goes to the players. Since the proposal involves increasing the HHR% it essentially serves the same purpose as a roll back.

how would that effect cap hits is the question im wondering..

[MSP4LYFE]

if the cap goes down, so will players salaries....so, if the cap drops 10mil, roughly 20%, you'd have to think the players salaries will roll back an equal amount.

The current NHL proposal does not include a roll back of any kind.
I personally think this is a pretty fair offer from the owners and gives me hope something will get done.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=404044

Correct me if I'm wrong Nick, but this is my understanding of all of this.

The proposed deal involves players putting a larger percentage of their salaries into escrow. If at the end of the year the total salary was under the HHR%, then the players get all the money back + interest. If the total salaries add up to more than the %, then the owners get money back to bring the total player salary down to the % and whatever is left over goes to the players. Since the proposal involves increasing the HHR% it essentially serves the same purpose as a roll back.

how would that effect cap hits is the question im wondering..

I just told you, player salaries will be scaled back accordingly.

[armandtanzarian]

I can't see the players accepting this. Why would teams be rushing to get these long term deals done before deadline? If these exisitng contracts arent scaled back i think we in BBKL will need some time to do some major adjusting...lol

[KapG]

Lots of cap space here

[MSP4LYFE]

I can't see the players accepting this. Why would teams be rushing to get these long term deals done before deadline? If these exisitng contracts arent scaled back i think we in BBKL will need some time to do some major adjusting...lol

They will be if the cap is lowered by a significant margin. A majority of teams won't be able to operate under the cap otherwise.

[armandtanzarian]

I wonder if there could be a clause on existing contracts that the players still get paid but there is a percentage of contract applied to new Cap schema?

[Shep]

That defeats the whole purpose. They want to spend less money on players.