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[MSP4LYFE]

I was just coming to post that your team has 40 more points based on last years stats, than any other team. 2nd is Scott.

That stat is irrelevant...

[Robin Hood]

Again Shiv, this is the difference between me and you, you look at last years stats and assume it will remain relatively similar, I study a players growth, study the coaches plans for said player in the upcoming season, study the numbers over not only the full season, but at different parts in the season. This last part is important to note as it can sometimes be an indicator of a big season to come, just ask Scott, he did the same thing with Stephan Robidas I'm sure. And most importantly look at the changes made and opportunities on said team. You don't...And for those reasons you're numbers will NEVER tell the real story.

this right here. believe me man there are several people in this league that are just as smart if not smarter than you. its nothing new LOL. you act like its rocket science to project how a player will perform in a season. Of course a player like John Carlson will have a terrific season. I'm telling you right now even WITH growth in numbers, my team's offence is significantly better than yours. peripheries is not even a contest.

As for injuries, you bet you're ass they will happen, and you better not use that as an excuse when I cripple you're depleted team, because that's the nature of the game

if you do beat me Kareem, there wont be any excuses. a win is a win. but whether i win or lose know this: you are not even a top 3 favourite right now.

[Robin Hood]

I was just coming to post that your team has 40 more points based on last years stats, than any other team. 2nd is Scott.

That stat is irrelevant...

its not irrelevant LOL. and this is with savard injured all of last season, and vinny having an off year. with oshie, giroux and backes getting top line duties, simmonds putting up more offence, its not even close kareem. my teams offence >>> your teams offence.

[MSP4LYFE]

Again Shiv, this is the difference between me and you, you look at last years stats and assume it will remain relatively similar, I study a players growth, study the coaches plans for said player in the upcoming season, study the numbers over not only the full season, but at different parts in the season. This last part is important to note as it can sometimes be an indicator of a big season to come, just ask Scott, he did the same thing with Stephan Robidas I'm sure. And most importantly look at the changes made and opportunities on said team. You don't...And for those reasons you're numbers will NEVER tell the real story.

this right here. believe me man there are several people in this league that are just as smart if not smarter than you. its nothing new LOL. you act like its rocket science to project how a player will perform in a season. Of course a player like John Carlson will have a terrific season. I'm telling you right now even WITH growth in numbers, my team's offence is significantly better than yours. peripheries is not even a contest.

As for injuries, you bet you're ass they will happen, and you better not use that as an excuse when I cripple you're depleted team, because that's the nature of the game

if you do beat me Kareem, there wont be any excuses. a win is a win. but whether i win or lose know this: you are not even a top 3 favourite right now.

It doesn't surprise me that you think that, after all you believe Vincent Lecavalier will put up numbers he hasn't in 4 seasons, and behind a superior centerman no less...But hey, who am I to ruin you're blissful parade.

As for intelligence, you are right, I am not the smartest, but I will put my hockey knowledge up against anyone in this league, there are a select few who challenge me, you're not one of them.

[MSP4LYFE]

I was just coming to post that your team has 40 more points based on last years stats, than any other team. 2nd is Scott.

That stat is irrelevant...

its not irrelevant LOL. and this is with savard injured all of last season, and vinny having an off year. with oshie, giroux and backes getting top line duties, simmonds putting up more offence, its not even close kareem. my teams offence >>> your teams offence.

Sigh...Yes you're offense is better Shiv, even though mine had an injured Getzlaf, Morrow, Kronwall, Gunnarsson, and Kessel, had no production from Kadri, MSP, and Carlson. Not to mention career worst seasons from Tanguay, that and all my players will regress while you're veterans wil continue to improve...

I suppose Howard is better than Miller too. Funny logic you have going there bud.

[Robin Hood]

Again Shiv, this is the difference between me and you, you look at last years stats and assume it will remain relatively similar, I study a players growth, study the coaches plans for said player in the upcoming season, study the numbers over not only the full season, but at different parts in the season. This last part is important to note as it can sometimes be an indicator of a big season to come, just ask Scott, he did the same thing with Stephan Robidas I'm sure. And most importantly look at the changes made and opportunities on said team. You don't...And for those reasons you're numbers will NEVER tell the real story.

this right here. believe me man there are several people in this league that are just as smart if not smarter than you. its nothing new LOL. you act like its rocket science to project how a player will perform in a season. Of course a player like John Carlson will have a terrific season. I'm telling you right now even WITH growth in numbers, my team's offence is significantly better than yours. peripheries is not even a contest.

As for injuries, you bet you're ass they will happen, and you better not use that as an excuse when I cripple you're depleted team, because that's the nature of the game

As for intelligence, you are right, I am not the smartest, but I will put my hockey knowledge up against anyone in this league, there are a select few who challenge me, you're not one of them.

prospect knowledge wise you, scott, nick, steve are up there for sure but nhl wise you dotn know anything more than myself or anyone else lol. this league is full of people who know what theyre talking about.

[Robin Hood]

btw lets continue this another time lol im going to bed. pleasure as always kareem. the antagonism keeps bbkl going .

[shooker]

Shivs team is elite but unproven goaltending and depth is his shortcoming. He doesnt have call ups for injuries and can't afford a 3 man bench. Those weeks when his middle tier players only have one game could be a massive miss in his planning. No bench will hurt him for sure when his opposition out games him 2-1, those bench players really help to balance out those weeks. I dont care how good your team is eventually your luck will run out and gp will take over.

[fedro91]

Again Shiv, this is the difference between me and you, you look at last years stats and assume it will remain relatively similar, I study a players growth, study the coaches plans for said player in the upcoming season, study the numbers over not only the full season, but at different parts in the season. This last part is important to note as it can sometimes be an indicator of a big season to come, just ask Scott, he did the same thing with Stephan Robidas I'm sure. And most importantly look at the changes made and opportunities on said team. You don't...And for those reasons you're numbers will NEVER tell the real story.

But don't forget that Kopitar went hot to cold. Reason is he had a great start of the season is that he had great chemistry with Ryan Smyth. When Smyth got injured Kopitar didn't produce at will.

Kopitar with smyth- 34 pts in 26 games but had 33 pts in 22 games

Smyth with Kopitar- 24 pts in 22 games


K With out Smyth- 5 pts in 10 games -2 2PIM


Now you can see that Kopitar can play and there will some great rebound year but I feel that Lecavalier isn't where he was once. He will be a great top 6 player but not a elite player that he was sepose to become.

But Pittsburgh might get the jack pot with Vinny. I just feel he'll be disapointing like last year. Vinny = to overpayed, that's what I believe. By the way I agree you need to study the player before trading him or for him.

[shooker]

you suck at quoting lol

[shooker]

spoke to soon nice edit ahha

[Scott]

1. My team's offence is top 3 in BBKL
2. My team's depth is last place in BBKL (beyond my roster)
3. My team hits peripheries better than EVERY team other than Shep's.
4. Lidstrom is going to win the Norris Trophy this year. And Lecavalier, Gonchar, Savard and Modano will have fantastic seasons.
5, Howard can take ANY goalie in a given week. I'll even go as far to say that Howard will be a Top 3 goalie this year.

There are only two things that can make me lose this year:

1) Organizational Depth: My team can't handle too many injuries. <------ major reason why I think I will lose
2) Facing Shep's team in the final even if I am healthy <---- i will lose.

In short, Kareem the only way you will beat me is if my team has some major injuries. IF HEALTHY (big if) my team will rape yours.

But regardless, Shep is going to win the whole damn thing anyways so this is all moot.

I was just coming to post that your team has 40 more points based on last years stats, than any other team. 2nd is Scott.

CBS projections are so bunk.. before I traded Heatley, Koivu, Seto, Jokinen & Letang.. I was projected at 100+ points above anyone lol and I cannot see my team being the 2nd most offensive team lol

[Shep]

1. My team's offence is top 3 in BBKL
2. My team's depth is last place in BBKL (beyond my roster)
3. My team hits peripheries better than EVERY team other than Shep's.
4. Lidstrom is going to win the Norris Trophy this year. And Lecavalier, Gonchar, Savard and Modano will have fantastic seasons.
5, Howard can take ANY goalie in a given week. I'll even go as far to say that Howard will be a Top 3 goalie this year.

There are only two things that can make me lose this year:

1) Organizational Depth: My team can't handle too many injuries. <------ major reason why I think I will lose
2) Facing Shep's team in the final even if I am healthy <---- i will lose.

In short, Kareem the only way you will beat me is if my team has some major injuries. IF HEALTHY (big if) my team will rape yours.

But regardless, Shep is going to win the whole damn thing anyways so this is all moot.

I was just coming to post that your team has 40 more points based on last years stats, than any other team. 2nd is Scott.

CBS projections are so bunk.. before I traded Heatley, Koivu, Seto, Jokinen & Letang.. I was projected at 100+ points above anyone lol and I cannot see my team being the 2nd most offensive team lol

It wasn't projections. It was what the teams did last year, factual stats.

Obviously it doesn't take into consideration injuries, rookies this season, etc. I'm just saying, based on what everybody's team did last year, Shiv has the most points and Scott the 2nd most.

I was more showing that Shiv's team is more than just a periphery slut.

[shooker]

1. My team's offence is top 3 in BBKL
2. My team's depth is last place in BBKL (beyond my roster)
3. My team hits peripheries better than EVERY team other than Shep's.
4. Lidstrom is going to win the Norris Trophy this year. And Lecavalier, Gonchar, Savard and Modano will have fantastic seasons.
5, Howard can take ANY goalie in a given week. I'll even go as far to say that Howard will be a Top 3 goalie this year.

There are only two things that can make me lose this year:

1) Organizational Depth: My team can't handle too many injuries. <------ major reason why I think I will lose
2) Facing Shep's team in the final even if I am healthy <---- i will lose.

In short, Kareem the only way you will beat me is if my team has some major injuries. IF HEALTHY (big if) my team will rape yours.

But regardless, Shep is going to win the whole damn thing anyways so this is all moot.

I was just coming to post that your team has 40 more points based on last years stats, than any other team. 2nd is Scott.

CBS projections are so bunk.. before I traded Heatley, Koivu, Seto, Jokinen & Letang.. I was projected at 100+ points above anyone lol and I cannot see my team being the 2nd most offensive team lol

It wasn't projections. It was what the teams did last year, factual stats.

Obviously it doesn't take into consideration injuries, rookies this season, etc. I'm just saying, based on what everybody's team did last year, Shiv has the most points and Scott the 2nd most.

I was more showing that Shiv's team is more than just a periphery slut.

I think there is some homo going on between shiv and shep....they compliment each other way to effing often

[Lee]

How do you check projections? When I go to "All teams", it craps out and gives me an error.

[MSP4LYFE]

Obviously it doesn't take into consideration injuries, rookies this season, etc. I'm just saying, based on what everybody's team did last year, Shiv has the most points and Scott the 2nd most.

I was more showing that Shiv's team is more than just a periphery slut.

There is nothing factual about using last seasons stats, which ignore: age, rookies, injuries, career best/worst seasons... It doesn't demonstrate shit, and like I said above is irrelevent. If you're goal was to prove Shiv has some elite offence, a simple list of his teams players would have sufficed, and FTR, that was not my point, my point was that he has sacrificed total points for more rounded stats, which is a FACT. Whether or not that makes him top 3 or 5 is useless to me, as far as I'm concerned it's a 3/4 horse race anyways, I'm more concerned with who is the best, and IMO Shiv is not the best in that regard.

[MSP4LYFE]

Nielsen is an extra
Backes, Giroux, Ott, Oshie are wingers also.

Bull shit...

CBS has Oshie listed as a center, as well as: nhl.com, yahoo, hockeydb, and espn. How does that translate to Oshie is a winger?

[inferno31]

Nielsen is an extra
Backes, Giroux, Ott, Oshie are wingers also.

Bull shit...

CBS has Oshie listed as a center, as well as: nhl.com, yahoo, hockeydb, and espn. How does that translate to Oshie is a center?

Might want to read that one over.

[MSP4LYFE]

^ looks fine to me

[Robin Hood]

Nielsen is an extra
Backes, Giroux, Ott, Oshie are wingers also.

Bull shit...

CBS has Oshie listed as a center, as well as: nhl.com, yahoo, hockeydb, and espn. How does that translate to Oshie is a winger?

http://bbkl.hockey.cbssports.com/players/depth-chart/W

cbs has oshie playing wing on its depth charts. so does yahoo:

http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/teams/stl/depthchart