I'm Staying.. Oh, and Trade (I'm dumb): FLA/NJD

[Scott]

To Florida:

Nik Antropov
Alex Urbom
Quinton howden
2011 1st round draft pick (NJD)
2011 1st round draft pick (OTT)
2012 1st round draft pick (STL)
2012 4th round draft pick (NJD)
2012 6th round draft pick (NJD)

To New Jersey:

Jeff Carter

[Florida Chris]

I agree....Sorry Scott, my wife got home from work, and told me we were going for dinner and a movie.. Was hoping to catch ya before I left....The movie " The Town" is pretty good.

[Scott]

I agree....Sorry Scott, my wife got home from work, and told me we were going for dinner and a movie.. Was hoping to catch ya before I left....The movie " The Town" is pretty good.

No worries man..

And yes, that movie was decent.. my wife and I seen it on the weekend. 2 old married dudes just made a trade haha

[Robin Hood]

sigh.

[armandtanzarian]

double sigh...but I like Getz better than Carter so

[shooker]

double sigh...but I like Getz better than Carter so

was gonna say I bet you are happy you lost out on that other bidding war.

[hong57]

have to bring this out... haha

To Florida:

Jeff Carter
Jack Johnson
Eric Tangradi
Ryan McDonagh
Zack Stortini
2010 6th Rounder (NJD)

To New Jersey:

Stephen Weiss
James Neal
Claude Giroux
Keith Yandle
Travis Morin



so it is...

To FLA
Nik Antropov
Alex Urbom
Quinton howden
2011 1st round draft pick (NJD)
2011 1st round draft pick (OTT)
2012 1st round draft pick (STL)
2012 4th round draft pick (NJD)
2012 6th round draft pick (NJD)
Jack Johnson
Eric Tangradi
Ryan McDonagh
Zack Stortini
2010 6th Rounder (NJD)


To New Jersey:
Stephen Weiss
James Neal
Claude Giroux
Keith Yandle
Travis Morin


So many pieces flowing around..

[MSP4LYFE]

Thats brutal Chris...

[Florida Chris]

Thats brutal Chris...

Really, I thought it was a pretty good return....Antropov isn't all that far behind Carter when all categories are added up...I think the picks and prospects makes up the difference, and help set me up nicely in the future.

[kyuss]

Thats brutal Chris...

Really, I thought it was a pretty good return....Antropov isn't all that far behind Carter when all categories are added up...I think the picks and prospects makes up the difference, and help set me up nicely in the future.

i'm really skeptic on the first thing
but picks and prospects could indeed make up for the difference: it depends how good Urbom and Howden become and, of course, what you will draft with those picks..
hard to judge the trade as of now, aside from stating the obvious: Scott kills it short term.

[Scott]

Thats brutal Chris...

Really, I thought it was a pretty good return....Antropov isn't all that far behind Carter when all categories are added up...I think the picks and prospects makes up the difference, and help set me up nicely in the future.

i'm really skeptic on the first thing
but picks and prospects could indeed make up for the difference: it depends how good Urbom and Howden become and, of course, what you will draft with those picks..
hard to judge the trade as of now, aside from stating the obvious: Scott kills it short term.

Yup, 4-3 years it'll look like I got owned in this deal!

[Florida Chris]

Thats brutal Chris...

Really, I thought it was a pretty good return....Antropov isn't all that far behind Carter when all categories are added up...I think the picks and prospects makes up the difference, and help set me up nicely in the future.

i'm really skeptic on the first thing
but picks and prospects could indeed make up for the difference: it depends how good Urbom and Howden become and, of course, what you will draft with those picks..
hard to judge the trade as of now, aside from stating the obvious: Scott kills it short term.

He certainly does, but my team is/was a borderline team, not really young with potential, and not deep with talent/Vets, and definitely in need of a bump in 1 direction or the other. So I really don't the depth to land another superstar, and even if I did, there are some scary teams ahead of me and I still probably wouldn't be completive. On the other hand I don't really want to tank, but I know I not winning anything this year. So this was a perfect (but very risky) opportunity to still remain some what completive, while stocking up for the future aswell...Antropov got 67pts last year, and does pretty good in most catergores....Now as long as he stays healthy (and now playing with even better line mates) I don't see his production dropping any..

[Scott]

Chris, you could've gotten a better return imo.. I'm in a position where I can overpay. That was the plan all along.

[jcarton]

I don't know, it looks like chris landed a few solid pieces and picks, but Carter is a stud and the guy is only 25, nice deal for scott all the way, not terrible by any means

[Scott]

I don't know, it looks like chris landed a few solid pieces and picks, but Carter is a stud and the guy is only 25, nice deal for scott all the way, not terrible by any means

Agreed on both accounts.. but when you have a TON of assets, you use them!

[armandtanzarian]

Bergeron is going to get 65+ points this year...along with near league lead in SHTOI and FOW. All i got to say...lol And draft picks are way overrated. With that said i had great discussions with Chris and in hindsight i am glad the deal fell through. So you know what i offered for Carter to compare..Scott clearly beat me out but i feel Urbom is just another stay at home defenseman that won't hold the value that a Gormley or Elliot will bring in H2H with our setup. I think Gormley will be another Jay Bouwmeester (minus last season:))

Patrice Bergeron
Brandon Gormley or Stefan Elliot
Benn Ferreiro
Oscar Lindberg or Lovecchio
1st 2012
4th 2012
7th 2011

[Scott]

Bergeron is going to get 65+ points this year...along with near league lead in SHTOI and FOW. All i got to say...lol And draft picks are way overrated. With that said i had great discussions with Chris and in hindsight i am glad the deal fell through. So you know what i offered for Carter to compare..Scott clearly beat me out but i feel Urbom is just another stay at home defenseman that won't hold the value that a Gormley or Elliot will bring in H2H with our setup. I think Gormley will be another Jay Bouwmeester (minus last season:))

Patrice Bergeron
Brandon Gormley or Stefan Elliot
Benn Ferreiro
Oscar Lindberg or Lovecchio
1st 2012
4th 2012
7th 2011

I guess you're happy your deal fell through.. Getz is an uber beast. But there's no way I would've landed Getz with the package that I landed Carter with, I know that for a fact so I'm still over-joyed with my trade and my team's looking pretty sick. Not superstar power but periphery star power with a killer defense.

It's going to be an interesting year.. imo, there are about 10 teams that could win it this season, I'll leave out names.

I wonder if I'd get a few more votes in a "whose gonna win it all this season" thread now?

[armandtanzarian]

You are a master or word trickery and mind bending. In other words a very educated salesman May i quote:

Scott: The firesale begins...I am just bored and want to rebuild and go another route.
BBKL: awesome, Scott has all the good players so i can unload some youth and score one, now's the time...

Scott 2 weeks later after emptying his starting roster for youth and a complete gluttony of picks:
hmm...I think I'm good. Now, phase 2, of my 1 month master plan...muahahahah

BBKL: Yea, Scott's team looks weak and even i can beat that. Hes gonna be some good in a few years!

Scott: Phase 2 commence....I will force you to give me your ultimate H2H beasts with awesome contracts and you will accept my massive overpayment of over-rated picks because you just can't say no.

BBKL: Uh oh...I think something just happened. Scotts back and has proven to everyone that you can flip an entire roster in less than a month.
also note the extra psychological tactics in use in this plan: I am joining another league and won't be around as much, and i want to just rebuild for a challenge.



Phase 3 complete.....
Can i just state that I didn't bend on Callahan despite the amazing offers Scott put forward. hehe

[Shoalzie]

Yowza! Great get for the Devils and the Panthers got some tremendous pieces for the future.

(Glad you're hanging around, Scott )

[MSP4LYFE]

Thats brutal Chris...

Really, I thought it was a pretty good return....Antropov isn't all that far behind Carter when all categories are added up...I think the picks and prospects makes up the difference, and help set me up nicely in the future.

I guess we'll see going forward, I thought Kyle's offer was superior...Hence the trade.

Anyways, my problem with this deal isn't so much what you got in return for Carter (although I wouldn't have taken it personally), it was what you gave up initially (Neal, Giroux, Yandle, Weiss), you put those players on your team now and you are among the top contenders, IMO.