GWT - Week #18

[Matthew]

Wont whenever the trade deadline is prevent that procrastination? Fine - singling that small group out as opposed to lee. You can't base the rules on 4 or 5 gms who don't trade often. Base it on the good of the league.

[Nick]

guys, it honestly doesn't matter where we put the trade deadline, someone will bitch.

this is a compromised date, and one we've applied the learning of previous years to. To say it bluntly, we have changed and progressed. The biggest problem with this date is the lack of notice, however I've already referenced how that occurred. I wouldn't be opposed to the trade that occur between roster lock and our trade deadline were to be forced through and effect the week of March 2nd -> but that could be some annoying work.


Regarding no-trading in playoffs, it's a multitude of things. 1) it makes our trade deadline more real, and closer in impact to the NHL's
2) NHL does not 'allow' teams to make big trades during the playoffs, even if it's not explicitly written down, any GM with any sense will delay the trade until the cup has been handed out - the exceptions in this case are not what we should plan our rules around.
3) In fantasy hockey there should be NO, zero, ziltch negative impacts from making the playoffs, especially a deep run. Being left out of trading market is a perceived negative, one easily avoided given that benefits associated with a freeze.

[kimmer]

Wont whenever the trade deadline is prevent that procrastination? Fine - singling that small group out as opposed to lee. You can't base the rules on 4 or 5 gms who don't trade often. Base it on the good of the league.

U still not getting it. God ur super nub

[Lee]

guys, it honestly doesn't matter where we put the trade deadline, someone will bitch.

this is a compromised date, and one we've applied the learning of previous years to. To say it bluntly, we have changed and progressed. The biggest problem with this date is the lack of notice, however I've already referenced how that occurred. I wouldn't be opposed to the trade that occur between roster lock and our trade deadline were to be forced through and effect the week of March 2nd -> but that could be some annoying work.


Regarding no-trading in playoffs, it's a multitude of things. 1) it makes our trade deadline more real, and closer in impact to the NHL's
2) NHL does not 'allow' teams to make big trades during the playoffs, even if it's not explicitly written down, any GM with any sense will delay the trade until the cup has been handed out - the exceptions in this case are not what we should plan our rules around.
3) In fantasy hockey there should be NO, zero, ziltch negative impacts from making the playoffs, especially a deep run. Being left out of trading market is a perceived negative, one easily avoided given that benefits associated with a freeze.

No one is saying that playoff teams can't trade.

[Matthew]

Thanks nick. I was focused on having teams make a choice earlier on to increase excitement; however, I see how the late deadline, and thus knowing you are in can also make teams entirely load up if they wish to actually win the cup.

I appreciate the explanation.

I enjoy a good argument/discussion, and with that I will desist.

[kimmer]

Thx for inadvertently letting me know I don't discuss intelligently. I personally take great pride in it

[Nick]

Lee - a 2 week trade freeze would be of no impact.

[Lee]

Yes. In it's current state the trade deadline will have little impact.

[Handsome&FairMike]

Thanks nick. I was focused on having teams make a choice earlier on to increase excitement; however, I see how the late deadline, and thus knowing you are in can also make teams entirely load up if they wish to actually win the cup.

I appreciate the explanation.

I enjoy a good argument/discussion, and with that I will desist.

Ya that's fine Nick. I'm with Matt here on the earlier deadline increases the excitement as more teams have to make a decision to "buy/sell" rather than the nearly settled standings in the 3rd to last week. Definitely cool with any decision the league makes, but just letting my preference be known.

And Kimmer - you're such a fucking plug haha. You make zero sense and try to at least get facts straight if you're going say things. I've been one of the more active GMs this season trade wise, which to be honest means nothing. If you have a good team, no need to make trades. The earlier deadline is only of interest to me because, again, it increases excitement in my opinion.

[dave1959]

I'd think it has to do with teams making deals that could affect your BBKL team and then not being able to fix your roster via trade.

If you're a playoff team and your goalie all of a sudden no longer plays since an NHL team trades for a new starter I can see why we would allow the GM the chance to add that goaltender rather than saying oh well you now have no starter and you now have no chance to win, too bad for you.

Cite the time this ever happened. I highly doubt teams with a competitive team BBKL-wise lose their starter. And if it has happened, that's your fault for not recognizing your goaltending isn't adequate, in my opinion

Last season with Halak to the Capitals. Holtby isn't a bad goaltender and why would the GM be expected to recognize he is inadequate and trade for Halak when there was no way of knowing that would happen.

Was halak's owner a good team?

Fuck, no!!

[kimmer]

It doesn't increase excitement at all
It makes perfect sense based on what I said

[Nick]

Lee man, STFU, all you're doing is throwing out comments when IMO you know full well the pro's and con's.


if we do it 4 weeks out our season is too impacted and trades in the NHL screw us over, ditto on injuries without ability to adjust.

Like i said, this is the compromised date, it takes into account and accommodates for as many scenarios and realities that we could come up with. It isn't a 2 week freeze and should encourage decisions to be made because it runs the rest of the length of the NHL regular season, it's effectively a 4 & 1/2 week freeze.

[Handsome&FairMike]

Yes. In it's current state the trade deadline will have little impact.

And re: the no playoff trading it doesn't matter to me too much. If it keeps the non-playoff teams more involved then by all means go for it. To me I would want to have all teams possible involved to optimize value for a deal, but that's clearly not a feeling shared by others.

[Handsome&FairMike]

I'd think it has to do with teams making deals that could affect your BBKL team and then not being able to fix your roster via trade.

If you're a playoff team and your goalie all of a sudden no longer plays since an NHL team trades for a new starter I can see why we would allow the GM the chance to add that goaltender rather than saying oh well you now have no starter and you now have no chance to win, too bad for you.

Cite the time this ever happened. I highly doubt teams with a competitive team BBKL-wise lose their starter. And if it has happened, that's your fault for not recognizing your goaltending isn't adequate, in my opinion

Last season with Halak to the Capitals. Holtby isn't a bad goaltender and why would the GM be expected to recognize he is inadequate and trade for Halak when there was no way of knowing that would happen.

Was halak's owner a good team?

Fuck, no!!

Nuff said.

[Lee]

Lee man, STFU, all you're doing is throwing out comments when IMO you know full well the pro's and con's.


if we do it 4 weeks out our season is too impacted and trades in the NHL screw us over, ditto on injuries without ability to adjust.

Like i said, this is the compromised date, it takes into account and accommodates for as many scenarios and realities that we could come up with. It isn't a 2 week freeze and should encourage decisions to be made because it runs the rest of the length of the NHL regular season, it's effectively a 4 & 1/2 week freeze.

No, it's a 6 week trade freeze.

And I did try to STFU until you addressed me directly.

[Matthew]

Patty Kane now league point leader.

[lightupdadarkness]

Patty Kane now league point leader.

Tell him to save some for next year when he's really gotta earn it

[Matthew]

Patty Kane now league point leader.

Tell him to save some for next year when he's really gotta earn it

He needed enough money to fill up his 2 Stanley Cups.

[Bruyns]

Tony and I both having down weeks. Going to be a tight matchup.

[Lee]

Maybe Mike isn't the powerhouse he makes himself out to be.