the official Lee whining thread

[kyuss]

since people have been asking to ignore Lee not to sidetrack other threads invaded by his endless complaints, I think we should try to keep all of them together in this place (those that are not constructive for the thread's purposes), so that anyone can feel free to quote him and reply here without ruining the ongoing discussions with OT stuff.

we have already changed rules mid season. see the ruling on me scratching a goalie and then Mik doing the exact same thing.

LOL why you don't just leave the league if that's what you believe and how you think we run business?

once again, we did opposite things with the Gs, and everyone with a brain (-> included you) knows it.

I shouldn't have to leave because there are different rules for different people.

No one said you should.
It's just that it doesn't seem to make sense for you to want to remain in a league where you think different rules are applied for different people.

The ability to make my lineup worse is something I should absolutely have.

No. That's what we want to prevent with that rule and seems to have worked.

NHL teams tank.

you can still tank as well by making your roster worse via trades like they do.

They don't tank by dressing 8 players lineups or leaving the net empty, which is what you wanted to accomplish dressing Khudo instead of Ward that week.

Yes, I benched him. I met the requirements on the season. Change GGP if you are going to change anything.

GGP limits are completely irrelevant when it comes to this matter. You showed in the past how that limit alone clearly doesn't work against blatant tanking so another regulations was added.

I shouldn't be punished for doing what is best for my team within the confines of the rules.

in fact no one punished you.

Others have openly said they've intentionally dressed worse line ups to lost and not a peep is said to them.

after the new regulation was put in place?
and was that obvious or some subject to opinions?

This league has no place in it's official decision for bias, favoritism and opinion.

so the NHL with their bunch of lawyers does have places where opinion is a key part of their decisions, but we in BBKL should not?

Opinion, sure, I'll give you that. Bias and favourtism? No.

agree, and since there weren't in that situation, you should stop wasting our time over it.

The ability to make my lineup worse is something I should absolutely have. I've never denied that dressing Khudo over Ward was an attempt to lose.

which confirms CC would have been right in looking into your lineup

Aboslutely. And they should have seen that I was running an NHL caliber goaltender, saw that I had already met GP and went on their merry way.

again, meeting GP doesn't affect this.
And the CC did absolutely nothing about it anyway. In your months long shitshow you keep claiming the CC decided against your case, when instead the CC didn't even need to make any decision, LOL

The NHL changed the lottery process for this year and they are changing it again next year.

not sure how this is supposed to pertain this discussion.
Even if they introduced a larger lottery, they are still not allowing teams to leave their nets or lineups empty on purpose

[The BBKL Insider]

No one wants Sam Gagner should be added

[Lee]

If wanting equality is such a negative thing in this league, I'll step down as GM of the Philadelphia Flyers.

If 5 people request as such, I will post my resignation.

Please do so in this thread.

[Matthew]

Delete. Thread is too much for me.

[kimmer]

I personally just call everyone a fucking cocksucker and makes me feel good raging til I'm bored of it

Helps

[Fraser]

For me regulated roster management equality does not come before the integrity of the league. When one person does something with the intention to lose, and the other does a similar move with the intention to win, these are not equal scenarios. Intentional worsening of rosters is something that we should be striving to remove for the overall health and competitiveness of this league going forward.

[Lee]

Again, that was not a rule at the time.

1 vote for me to leave.

If people want to continue trolling my treads with stupid offers all the time, please vote yes.

[Lee]

I vote yes for me to leave. The league is no longer fun. I love the league, I love my team but it's getting to the point where it's no longer worth me logging in.

2 votes yes.

[kimmer]

Sorta agree this threads a bit much. Mik I'm sure u were sorta tryin to have fun/vent on ur own way the frustration uve been butting with lee, but in our North American culture, nothing hurts a person deep more than being singled out like this. It's embarrassing. I feel bad for lee even tho I hate a lot of his posts

[Fraser]

Ruthless Euros

[kimmer]

If someone did this to me first off, I'm tracking ur fuckin ass and beating the fuck out of u. And then instantly withdraw from league without options/questions. It'd happen right there and then. Fuck that nobody is subject to a single out jest

[kyuss]

If wanting equality is such a negative thing in this league,

no one said wanting equality is a negative thing.

as pointed out here:

For me regulated roster management equality does not come before the integrity of the league. When one person does something with the intention to lose, and the other does a similar move with the intention to win, these are not equal scenarios. Intentional worsening of rosters is something that we should be striving to remove for the overall health and competitiveness of this league going forward.

besides, again, no CC decision was applied. So you have been whining all this time over something that never happened, only because it might have happened if you did dress only Khudo.

I'll step down as GM of the Philadelphia Flyers.

If 5 people request as such, I will post my resignation.

Please do so in this thread.

no one has requested you to leave, yet you already counted 2... if you feel like quitting cause you can't accept people disagreeing with your argument, don't put the blame on someone else.

btw, you're a very active and competitive member, so I sincerely hope you don't quit.

Seeing you go back and enjoy the league in a positive manner instead of arguing for the sake of arguing would be even nicer, but that would only be a bonus.

[lightupdadarkness]

No one can make anybody leave. Think this is pointless. Is this any better than the "so called Lee whinny"? I think Lee brings a different point of view on many different topics and he isn't afraid to express it or challenge other people with his thoughts and views. I think that is good for the overall of the league and if actually taken serious and used properly will help the league grow and prosper. I dare to find anyone to question about Lee's passion for this league. We need that as a whole and collectively as a group.

"It does not take a majority to prevail... but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men."

[kyuss]

If someone did this to me first off, I'm tracking ur fuckin ass and beating the fuck out of u. And then instantly withdraw from league without options/questions. It'd happen right there and then. Fuck that nobody is subject to a single out jest

First of all, I always thought Lee has a much much thicker skin than you.

Second, it's not like Lee needed this thread to be singled out. It's been his idiotic campaign to single him out for quite a while.

Third, I think this thread actually serves a purpose. If admins feel otherwise they may want to close this. But I still think users should feel free to reply to Lee somewhere (and clearly doing it in regular threads have been detrimental according to other posters)

[Lee]

Naw, I'm done with the whole thing.

Clearly no one else thinks the same as I do on the matter, fine. Majority rules.

The vote stands.

[Arian The Insider]

LOL this thread made me laugh. Can't be good to have a thread like this about a member though. I have no problem with Lee even if I don't agree on certain things.

[Matthew]

Maybe change title to "official lee discussion thread", so all long thread derailing arguments about tanking can go here. Rather than having a thread show up constantly with a title referring to him as a whiner.

[CAM]

Well, guess i'll see everyone come draft time. Annual BBKL rag starting up.

[Handsome&FairMike]

Mik, your stooping here bud. Not really cool.

Bottom line is, CC/majority votes on things. Lee gets to put in his opinion (just like everone else), everyone can disagree (or agree), and the final decision likely won't jive with Lee (or it will). If he doesn't like it, he can leave. Don't think this is necessary to bully him out of here. Much easier to just ignore him - he's a smart guy, I think he'll get the point.

I think Lee likes being a thorn in people's sides from time to time and to be honest, it makes the banter in the league more better (for the most point... eventually it is annoying lee - but really its only annoying cause everyone continues to feed into it. Stop arguing, make a voting tool (i.e. probably best to use a survey monkey or something than these threads because its really hard to tally), and get to the point. Simple stuff here people.

[lightupdadarkness]

Work smarter not harder!