OTT/CHI Shiv & Billy's late night trades are back

[Robin Hood]

To Ottawa

Henrik Zetterberg

To Chicago

Tyler Bozak
Matt Cooke
2015 4th Rounder (SJS)

[bills09]

Confirm
Tough but good talks Shivster

[Robin Hood]

Lol old habits:

Okay done. Posted: http://bbkl.ca/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=12318

Sending on CBS too

Cbs is dead

[Matthew]

prefer for shiv. bozak is a great bbkl'er and way younger.

[bills09]

Bozak in Toronto is a great H2H peice for sure
Be interesting to see if he returns/where he ends up

[Shep]

Bozak suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucks. Anywhere but Toronto's #1 centre and he's useless. Watch those FOW drop.

Nice one Billy.

[Robin Hood]

Bozak suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucks. Anywhere but Toronto's #1 centre and he's useless. Watch those FOW drop.

Nice one Billy.

We fundamentally disagree on something then: I do not believe players change much when they change teams. I think Bozak's FOW/point will drop slightly sure but not below like 700FOW/40points. He's been doing this for years. Any team that trades for him will give him a big role (e.g. his SHTOI will go up)

[kimmer]

Lol and keep in mind not all 'first line C' takes tons of draws (see: benn/seguin/krejci/pavelski/

[The BBKL Insider]

man, i think this is a cake walk for billy, if bozak is traded (or kessel is traded) he'll be a 3rd line C. Matt Cooke is probably done - maybe 1 more year.

great trade for billy here iMO

[thom54]

Bozak suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucks. Anywhere but Toronto's #1 centre and he's useless. Watch those FOW drop.

Nice one Billy.

We fundamentally disagree on something then: I do not believe players change much when they change teams. I think Bozak's FOW/point will drop slightly sure but not below like 700FOW/40points. He's been doing this for years. Any team that trades for him will give him a big role (e.g. his SHTOI will go up)

I think he'll be still be used in a 2C capacity.. will probably put up 40+ pts, the FOW will be there b/c the guy can draw well. SHTOI ... he's pretty freaking bad defensively no? I don't think he'd be a top 2 unit PK'er ... but still for 4.2M the value is there for him!

[Handsome&FairMike]

Bozak suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucks. Anywhere but Toronto's #1 centre and he's useless. Watch those FOW drop.

Nice one Billy.

We fundamentally disagree on something then: I do not believe players change much when they change teams. I think Bozak's FOW/point will drop slightly sure but not below like 700FOW/40points. He's been doing this for years. Any team that trades for him will give him a big role (e.g. his SHTOI will go up)

I think he'll be still be used in a 2C capacity.. will probably put up 40+ pts, the FOW will be there b/c the guy can draw well. SHTOI ... he's pretty freaking bad defensively no? I don't think he'd be a top 2 unit PK'er ... but still for 4.2M the value is there for him!

He's a Bonino. Solid player.

[Robin Hood]

Love the spectrum of opinions in this thread.

[Robin Hood]

Bozak suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucks. Anywhere but Toronto's #1 centre and he's useless. Watch those FOW drop.

Nice one Billy.

We fundamentally disagree on something then: I do not believe players change much when they change teams. I think Bozak's FOW/point will drop slightly sure but not below like 700FOW/40points. He's been doing this for years. Any team that trades for him will give him a big role (e.g. his SHTOI will go up)

I think he'll be still be used in a 2C capacity.. will probably put up 40+ pts, the FOW will be there b/c the guy can draw well. SHTOI ... he's pretty freaking bad defensively no? I don't think he'd be a top 2 unit PK'er ... but still for 4.2M the value is there for him!

He's actually a good PKer. Just in Toronto int he #1 C role he doesn't see as much time there. He's not great defensively even-strength. If he goes to a team where he is slotted at 2/3, he'll see more PK minutes esp with his faceoff prowess

[Fraser]

Bozak has some risk attached no doubt, but could easily but up a BBKL superior season to Z next year. I like it for Shiv.

[Sensfanjosh]

Really like the deal for Shiv myself, sure Cooke might not have a lot of time left but neither does Zetterberg, and I think there's a greater chance of Cooke and Bozak maintaining their current level of play (or even seeing a slight dip) then there is of Zetterberg staying as a top line producer.

[thom54]

Bozak suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucks. Anywhere but Toronto's #1 centre and he's useless. Watch those FOW drop.

Nice one Billy.

We fundamentally disagree on something then: I do not believe players change much when they change teams. I think Bozak's FOW/point will drop slightly sure but not below like 700FOW/40points. He's been doing this for years. Any team that trades for him will give him a big role (e.g. his SHTOI will go up)

I think he'll be still be used in a 2C capacity.. will probably put up 40+ pts, the FOW will be there b/c the guy can draw well. SHTOI ... he's pretty freaking bad defensively no? I don't think he'd be a top 2 unit PK'er ... but still for 4.2M the value is there for him!

He's a Bonino. Solid player.

Bonino is super overrated. 3rd line C.

[Fraser]

Bozak suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucks. Anywhere but Toronto's #1 centre and he's useless. Watch those FOW drop.

Nice one Billy.

We fundamentally disagree on something then: I do not believe players change much when they change teams. I think Bozak's FOW/point will drop slightly sure but not below like 700FOW/40points. He's been doing this for years. Any team that trades for him will give him a big role (e.g. his SHTOI will go up)

I think he'll be still be used in a 2C capacity.. will probably put up 40+ pts, the FOW will be there b/c the guy can draw well. SHTOI ... he's pretty freaking bad defensively no? I don't think he'd be a top 2 unit PK'er ... but still for 4.2M the value is there for him!

He's a Bonino. Solid player.

Bonino is super overrated. 3rd line C.

Better in BBKL than he is in real life. But yea he is definitely Vancouver's 3C now, Horvat has eclipsed him.

[kyuss]

Really like the deal for Shiv myself, sure Cooke might not have a lot of time left but neither does Zetterberg, and I think there's a greater chance of Cooke and Bozak maintaining their current level of play (or even seeing a slight dip) then there is of Zetterberg staying as a top line producer.

if anything because of their contract, Zetterberg seems to have much more time left than Cooke.

This thread confirms me how hard of a sell Zetterberg is nowadays (I experienced it first hand)

[Handsome&FairMike]

Better in BBKL than he is in real life. But yea he is definitely Vancouver's 3C now, Horvat has eclipsed him.

Fine by me... score a little and continue to have good periphs! I'll take his production from last year... better than bozaks!

[Fraser]

Better in BBKL than he is in real life. But yea he is definitely Vancouver's 3C now, Horvat has eclipsed him.

Fine by me... score a little and continue to have good periphs! I'll take his production from last year... better than bozaks!

Which I would think is a pretty fair estimation of production for the next while. Willie D roles his lines, no matter how much better Horvat gets I wouldn't expect that much of a declined role for Bones.