thanks for proving he is a stud. That's while playing behind one of the worst defenses in the league too.thom54 wroteCOLON0.9375 behind Rask's 0.9431 (and Harding too at 0.9415), price was up there tooKapG wroteCOLONJust gimme his ess% for last season where IMO he should have won the vezina.thom54 wroteCOLONlast year? or what? I'll toss you the site I use ... Don't know Varla's timeline as well as Rinne's obviouslyKapG wroteCOLONThoooom. What was varlamov ess% last season compared to rinne??
MTL - PHI Blockbuster - Hell has frozen over
Re: MTL - PHI Blockbuster - Hell has frozen over
Re: MTL - PHI Blockbuster - Hell has frozen over
More just a disagreement as I think varlamov is on rinnes level and Thom didn't think so.kimmer wroteCOLONNot bad.
Now is thom and kapG arguing?
- The BBKL Insider
- PostsCOLON 22628
- JoinedCOLON Mon May 03, 2010 8:46 pm
- LocationCOLON San Juan, Puerto Rico
Re: MTL - PHI Blockbuster - Hell has frozen over
i think Rinne is in the same group as Rask, Price, Lundy. I would put Varlamov in the 2nd tierKapG wroteCOLONMore just a disagreement as I think varlamov is on rinnes level and Thom didn't think so.kimmer wroteCOLONNot bad.
Now is thom and kapG arguing?
Re: MTL - PHI Blockbuster - Hell has frozen over
Fair enough Steve. Ur one of the few I've seen put him there. I think he's closer to 2nd then first but just nitpicking.
- The BBKL Insider
- PostsCOLON 22628
- JoinedCOLON Mon May 03, 2010 8:46 pm
- LocationCOLON San Juan, Puerto Rico
Re: MTL - PHI Blockbuster - Hell has frozen over
Call me crazy, but i think Rinne is as good as priceKapG wroteCOLONFair enough Steve. Ur one of the few I've seen put him there. I think he's closer to 2nd then first but just nitpicking.
i actually think they are the best 2 goalies in the NHL
although varlamov is good, he's not getting the love he deserves in this thread. I think guys like Lu, Crawford and Miller are in the 3rd tier of goalies
quality starters but not stars
Re: MTL - PHI Blockbuster - Hell has frozen over
Varla is 2nd tier, Holtby should be there too IMOThe BBKL Insider wroteCOLONCall me crazy, but i think Rinne is as good as priceKapG wroteCOLONFair enough Steve. Ur one of the few I've seen put him there. I think he's closer to 2nd then first but just nitpicking.
i actually think they are the best 2 goalies in the NHL
although varlamov is good, he's not getting the love he deserves in this thread. I think guys like Lu, Crawford and Miller are in the 3rd tier of goalies
quality starters but not stars
Re: MTL - PHI Blockbuster - Hell has frozen over
Guys Andersen? If he wins the cup hes A tier no questions asked. Hes better than price
Re: MTL - PHI Blockbuster - Hell has frozen over
Wtf are you talking about Paul?
Re: MTL - PHI Blockbuster - Hell has frozen over
Frederik Andersen? Hello?
Re: MTL - PHI Blockbuster - Hell has frozen over
67-21-5 is amazing, but the Ducks are good. Still has to prove more in the NHL, but in the BBKL at 1.15M and Gibson at 894K there is no goalie system I'd trade them for.kimmer wroteCOLONGuys Andersen? If he wins the cup hes A tier no questions asked. Hes better than price
Re: MTL - PHI Blockbuster - Hell has frozen over
In a tier with Rask, price and Lundy? No Paul.kimmer wroteCOLONFrederik Andersen? Hello?
Re: MTL - PHI Blockbuster - Hell has frozen over
I think you guys are out to lunch adding anyone to the Lundy/Price best goalie in the world discussion.
Re: MTL - PHI Blockbuster - Hell has frozen over
I'm going for lunch soon
Re: MTL - PHI Blockbuster - Hell has frozen over
Rask is the only guy who you could perhaps add. Rest are tier 2 (which contains many elite goalies...but there's really only 2-3 god tier)Nick wroteCOLONI think you guys are out to lunch adding anyone to the Lundy/Price best goalie in the world discussion.
Re: MTL - PHI Blockbuster - Hell has frozen over
Yeah lets keep Mase under the radar haha! Amazing he was able to do that with an AHL caliber defense.KapG wroteCOLONWhT are varlamovs numbers like since he was a starter? His numbers in Washington were not as good as they've been since he got traded.thom54 wroteCOLONKapG wroteCOLONDisagree.thom54 wroteCOLONHoltby is definitely being forgotten here, but I realize he has to do it for a longer time period... Varlamov actually has to do a bit more to be near Rinne though too... Varlamov is in a tier below that. He may bring it up this next season though
First tier is Rask, price, Lundy.
2nd tier (not thaaaaaat far behind) is guys like Bob, varly, rinne, holtby looks to be jointing this group too and I suppose bishop.
Varlamov should have won the vezina last year but he has more work to do before he's on rinnes level? Iunno Thom...
Even Strength S% ... Rinne second overall past year (in goalies in this convo ... no one is saying Dubnyk or Mason haha), Varla is WAAAY down that list. I believe that ESS% is one of the accepted stats that roughly quantify goalie skill.
Rinne at 0.9366 vs Varla at 0.9175 /... right with Andersen in ANA and Ramo ... for the last year
Ur using just he last year? Why take out varlamov vezina caliber season?
Re: MTL - PHI Blockbuster - Hell has frozen over
If I had a must win game tomorrow Price would not even be among the three goalies I would pick from.
But I know I'm probably alone on that one.
But I know I'm probably alone on that one.
Re: MTL - PHI Blockbuster - Hell has frozen over
You're not. People vastly overrate how good Price is. That said, he is still a top 10 goalie.kyuss wroteCOLONIf I had a must win game tomorrow Price would not even be among the three goalies I would pick from.
But I know I'm probably alone on that one.
- Robin Hood
- PostsCOLON 13589
- JoinedCOLON Mon May 03, 2010 5:09 pm
Re: MTL - PHI Blockbuster - Hell has frozen over
What? If I had to win game 7 scf tmrw, there is no goalie I'd take over Price/Lundqvist
- The BBKL Insider
- PostsCOLON 22628
- JoinedCOLON Mon May 03, 2010 8:46 pm
- LocationCOLON San Juan, Puerto Rico
Re: MTL - PHI Blockbuster - Hell has frozen over
Add Rinne to those guys and i agree.Robin Hood wroteCOLONWhat? If I had to win game 7 scf tmrw, there is no goalie I'd take over Price/Lundqvist
People forget how bad the preds were without Rinne and how good with Rinne (lottery team without, top team with). That guy is the Price of the habs.
Lundy is a world class goalie, but i believe that Rangers would still be a very strong team without him. That said, my order goes:
Price
Rinne
Lundy
Rask
Those are the 4 who seperate themselves from the rest of the pack IMO.
Re: MTL - PHI Blockbuster - Hell has frozen over
Give me Rinne, Quick, and Rask easily over Price if I had to win 1 game without even blinking.Robin Hood wroteCOLONWhat? If I had to win game 7 scf tmrw, there is no goalie I'd take over Price/Lundqvist