Package: Talbot, N. Schultz, Cooke, 1st CGY 2016
Re: Package: Talbot, N. Schultz, Cooke, 1st CGY 2016
Cock blocked nothing. He didn't want Hossa. Hossa is still on the block if anyone wants to make an offer.
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Re: Package: Talbot, N. Schultz, Cooke, 1st CGY 2016
Actually, Casper and I have discussed this deal in detail and I don't agree with any of you. This is not a slam post. Some things to consider:
Hossa is 36.
Next year, Hossa will be 37
If you truly believe in player attrition, 37 is a deadly age to be at
Which would be okay if I win this year, but I don't think I'm close to a favourite
Not to mention 3 roster players for 1 is usually a bad deal unless the 1 player is significantly better
Cooke is 37 but Schultz and Talbot are 30/31 and have many years of solid periph production left
I'd much rather move the package for a younger player who is worse than Hossa
I do believe Hossa is an "exception" but given players like MSL, Selanne, Alfie, Lidstrom, Chara, Timonen, Elias to name just a few elite players who have had their stats attrition off does not make me trust Hossa's production for more than 1-2 eyars.
CGY's pick will be 16-24...I believe I can find a solid player there who will likely be worth more than Hossa at the draft next year.
FYI - I love Hossa as a player and will likely pay for him in the future so again, not a slam post. He's a championship piece. Just does not have many years left.
Hossa is 36.
Next year, Hossa will be 37
If you truly believe in player attrition, 37 is a deadly age to be at
Which would be okay if I win this year, but I don't think I'm close to a favourite
Not to mention 3 roster players for 1 is usually a bad deal unless the 1 player is significantly better
Cooke is 37 but Schultz and Talbot are 30/31 and have many years of solid periph production left
I'd much rather move the package for a younger player who is worse than Hossa
I do believe Hossa is an "exception" but given players like MSL, Selanne, Alfie, Lidstrom, Chara, Timonen, Elias to name just a few elite players who have had their stats attrition off does not make me trust Hossa's production for more than 1-2 eyars.
CGY's pick will be 16-24...I believe I can find a solid player there who will likely be worth more than Hossa at the draft next year.
FYI - I love Hossa as a player and will likely pay for him in the future so again, not a slam post. He's a championship piece. Just does not have many years left.
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Re: Package: Talbot, N. Schultz, Cooke, 1st CGY 2016
the players your offering have less hockey in them than Hossa. That's the difference.
the only piece of any value is that 1st, and that flames team will be top 3 or 4 in the west, so it will be in the 20 range.
the only piece of any value is that 1st, and that flames team will be top 3 or 4 in the west, so it will be in the 20 range.
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Re: Package: Talbot, N. Schultz, Cooke, 1st CGY 2016
On having "less hockey" -- you have not read up on any stats regarding attrition then.The BBKL Insider wroteCOLONthe players your offering have less hockey in them than Hossa. That's the difference.
the only piece of any value is that 1st, and that flames team will be top 3 or 4 in the west, so it will be in the 20 range.
On being in the 20s -- sure, I can find a great player there. I believe in my drafting.
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Re: Package: Talbot, N. Schultz, Cooke, 1st CGY 2016
This is the funniest thing I've seen in awhile, when was your last draft pick?Robin Hood wroteCOLONOn having "less hockey" -- you have not read up on any stats regarding attrition then.The BBKL Insider wroteCOLONthe players your offering have less hockey in them than Hossa. That's the difference.
the only piece of any value is that 1st, and that flames team will be top 3 or 4 in the west, so it will be in the 20 range.
On being in the 20s -- sure, I can find a great player there. I believe in my drafting.
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Re: Package: Talbot, N. Schultz, Cooke, 1st CGY 2016
Many people don't know this, but there was a time when my team was all draft picks and prospects. I drafted deep in the 2011 draft I think? Players I took in late rounds: Gudas, Mark Stone. Had like 7 1st round picks.Sensfanjosh wroteCOLONThis is the funniest thing I've seen in awhile, when was your last draft pick?Robin Hood wroteCOLONOn having "less hockey" -- you have not read up on any stats regarding attrition then.The BBKL Insider wroteCOLONthe players your offering have less hockey in them than Hossa. That's the difference.
the only piece of any value is that 1st, and that flames team will be top 3 or 4 in the west, so it will be in the 20 range.
On being in the 20s -- sure, I can find a great player there. I believe in my drafting.
I just don't like putting in that time. But I will now. I think it's the way to win in this league.
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Re: Package: Talbot, N. Schultz, Cooke, 1st CGY 2016
If you're talking about 2011 you had 3 of the top 5 picks, not really a big skill drafting that high
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Re: Package: Talbot, N. Schultz, Cooke, 1st CGY 2016
Basically ignored the Gudas/Stone points to be a troll huh? Cool.Sensfanjosh wroteCOLONIf you're talking about 2011 you had 3 of the top 5 picks, not really a big skill drafting that high
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Re: Package: Talbot, N. Schultz, Cooke, 1st CGY 2016
Havne't found where you drafted them yetRobin Hood wroteCOLONBasically ignored the Gudas/Stone points to be a troll huh? Cool.Sensfanjosh wroteCOLONIf you're talking about 2011 you had 3 of the top 5 picks, not really a big skill drafting that high
134 for Gudas
171 for Stone
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Re: Package: Talbot, N. Schultz, Cooke, 1st CGY 2016
Gudas (134th overall): http://bbkl.ca/viewtopic.php?f=84&t=134 ... das#p10378Sensfanjosh wroteCOLONHavne't found where you drafted them yetRobin Hood wroteCOLONBasically ignored the Gudas/Stone points to be a troll huh? Cool.Sensfanjosh wroteCOLONIf you're talking about 2011 you had 3 of the top 5 picks, not really a big skill drafting that high
Stone (171st overall): http://bbkl.ca/viewtopic.php?f=84&t=134 ... one#p10879
Marchenko (180th overall): http://bbkl.ca/viewtopic.php?f=84&t=134 ... one#p10923
My 2011 team full of prospects with transactions: http://bbkl.ca/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=5506
Re: Package: Talbot, N. Schultz, Cooke, 1st CGY 2016
still remember that pick.. was quietly awaiting for him with my 7th rounderRobin Hood wroteCOLON Marchenko (180th overall): http://bbkl.ca/viewtopic.php?f=84&t=134 ... one#p10923
Re: Package: Talbot, N. Schultz, Cooke, 1st CGY 2016
Lucic for Kadri and the flames first
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Re: Package: Talbot, N. Schultz, Cooke, 1st CGY 2016
No means no.cliff11 wroteCOLONLucic for Kadri and the flames first
Re: Package: Talbot, N. Schultz, Cooke, 1st CGY 2016
No means yes and yes means analRobin Hood wroteCOLONNo means no.cliff11 wroteCOLONLucic for Kadri and the flames first
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Re: Package: Talbot, N. Schultz, Cooke, 1st CGY 2016
BAHAHAHAHAHAHA....I need to save that one LOL.foofnik wroteCOLONNo means yes and yes means analRobin Hood wroteCOLONNo means no.cliff11 wroteCOLONLucic for Kadri and the flames first
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Re: Package: Talbot, N. Schultz, Cooke, 1st CGY 2016
Did you get that from Honest Signalz?foofnik wroteCOLONNo means yes and yes means analRobin Hood wroteCOLONNo means no.cliff11 wroteCOLONLucic for Kadri and the flames first
Re: Package: Talbot, N. Schultz, Cooke, 1st CGY 2016
It's been around so long I have no idea where I got it fromRobin Hood wroteCOLONDid you get that from Honest Signalz?foofnik wroteCOLONNo means yes and yes means analRobin Hood wroteCOLONNo means no.cliff11 wroteCOLONLucic for Kadri and the flames first
Re: Package: Talbot, N. Schultz, Cooke, 1st CGY 2016
Its pretty difficult to rationalize giving up a 1st for a 36 yr old winger, imo, unless one is absolutely ready to compete. Like, the last piece.
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