Ekholm

[Shep]

Jeez.. you'd think a young top 4 defenseman (making 1M) would be worth more than a 3rd rounder...

I mean, yeah I guess averaging the 5th most ice-time for defence on your team makes you a Top 4 dman.

[thom54]

Jeez.. you'd think a young top 4 defenseman (making 1M) would be worth more than a 3rd rounder...

I mean, yeah I guess averaging the 5th most ice-time for defence on your team makes you a Top 4 dman.

:O

[kyuss]

Jeez.. you'd think a young top 4 defenseman (making 1M) would be worth more than a 3rd rounder...

I mean, yeah I guess averaging the 5th most ice-time for defence on your team makes you a Top 4 dman.

last 2 games:
vs BUF 4th D in icetime with 18.42
vs BUF 4th in icetime with 18.12

on a team with Josi, Weber, Jones, Ellis.

[Matthew]

Jeez.. you'd think a young top 4 defenseman (making 1M) would be worth more than a 3rd rounder...

I mean, yeah I guess averaging the 5th most ice-time for defence on your team makes you a Top 4 dman.

last 2 games:
vs BUF 4th D in icetime with 18.42
vs BUF 4th in icetime with 18.12

on a team with Josi, Weber, Jones, Ellis.

I neve thought I'd see mik using possibly the smallest sample size ever used on bbkl to prove his point.

[kyuss]

ok guys, ekhom is not a top 4 defenseman for you, and he is for me, so it looks like there will be no deal to be made, time to close this thread already.

[kyuss]

looks like editing my locked thread hurts others' feeling, so I've deleted this content. very serious matter apparently.

btw, if you want to make an offer, what I could get back are waiver exempts/picks (as usual at this stage), quality over quantity please.

[kyuss]

ok guys, ekhom is not a top 4 defenseman for you, and he is for me, so it looks like there will be no deal to be made, time to close this thread already.

I'm venturing into re-opening this thread, as by now maybe more people consider him a top 4 D.

Or maybe I should say top 3?

Here is Ekholm's TOI since the Seth Jones trade went down (he also has 4pts in the last 3 games):

Jan 23 @EDM 24:40 1:22 3:08
Jan 21 @WPG 23:07 1:53 3:17
Jan 19 CHI 21:58 2:07 3:07
Jan 16 MIN 19:16 0:48 2:53
Jan 14 @WPG 20:01 0:49 4:31
Jan 12 @CHI 22:07 3:25 3:55
Jan 9 @ARZ 24:40 3:01 1:10
Jan 8 @COL 23:40 2:04 4:31

Ryan Ellis' minutes in the last 5 games: 19, 18, 22, 20, 18

this is what Ellis was just traded for: http://bbkl.ca/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=13084#p236959

I'm interested in making moves before the deadline and because of my stacked D he could be part of the payback if he is properly valued in the deal.

Things I have interest for:
improving my lineup without affecting my cap
goaltending
1st rounder 2016, in the 8-20 range.

[Nick]

we should try and sort something out.

[Matthew]

Make me an offer I cannot refuse.

[kimmer]

Jacob Larsson

[kyuss]

Make me an offer I cannot refuse.

an offer YOU could not refuse pretty much means 'suicide offer'

[Matthew]

I've offered 1St + prospect and you've never even countered it. You do that thing Lee does where u refuse to make offers.

[Lee]

Much easier for you to tell me what you want than for me to guess what you want.

[Matthew]

If everyone did that then no trade offers would ever be made, Lee. I just find it to be a pain. Nothing against u personally.

[kyuss]

I've offered 1St + prospect and you've never even countered it. You do that thing Lee does where u refuse to make offers.

yeah I don't think late 1st + probable bust is close for a young 2nd pairing defenseman signed long term

[Lee]

It's a game of " oh, maybe he will offer me this player, whom I value highly, without placing emphasis on how much I value him, in an attempt to get even more out of him!"

I flat out tell people what I want for players they message me about. I expect the same. Don't be a sissy.

[Lee]

I make offers, get told they are shit because we value players differently and the people wonder why I don't make offers.

[Matthew]

I don't think about that emphasis thing. I see it as you playing a game of never making the first offer to gain leverage, tbh.

[Matthew]

I make offers, get told they are shit because we value players differently and the people wonder why I don't make offers.

I get told my offers are shit too. But if I don't make offers nothing ever gets done.

[kyuss]

you're welcome guys