Trade: DAL-DET

[lightupdadarkness]

On a happy note Ghost has a point in 14 straight games

[Lee]

Ghost is a fucking beast lol. I'll give you a 3rd for him.

[CasperX22]

You could have just said "hey man, I don't own Wennberg".

You didn't. You kept asking me to make offers, who I'd make available for him, etc. And you wonder why I'd be a bit pissed for wasting my time. So yeah. That makes you an idiot.

Makes me an idiot because it took you that long to realize your error? Just laugh it off and you will feel better. You are taking me having a bit of fun at your expense way too seriously.

[Lee]

Jonathan Toews once told me that I needed to stop being so serious.

[CasperX22]

On a happy note Ghost has a point in 14 straight games

He makes my dick hard.

[CasperX22]

Jonathan Toews once told me that I needed to stop being so serious.

It's good advice. If you can't laugh at yourself, what can you laugh at?

[lightupdadarkness]

Will want to take my 2 seconds I have coming in on my Pirri bet for Raanta?

Not so sure you will be getting those tho

[CasperX22]

Price of a back up is a 1st rounder

Says who exactly?

Says that's what billy and many others have paid


I guess the price is now a 2nd though thankfully

Those poor unfortunate souls. Explains a lot really.

[lightupdadarkness]

Price of a back up is a 1st rounder

Says who exactly?

Says that's what billy and many others have paid


I guess the price is now a 2nd though thankfully

There is no set price on anything. One GM may have gotten a certain price in the past but I don't think that may be the case now. We have a different group here with different long term views and different short term views. Different isn't bad. A given GM might pay a certain price but there could be lots of variations that go into why they may or may not do that. For example Chuck wanted the world from me for Miller but I refused his asking price. Scott felt the need to ensure that he safely met goalies GP. IMO not even close to what I was asked for but really it is simply what one GM is willing to pay, and what another GM is willing to accept. On that note Scott is always pleasant to deal with and if there is a deal i can help him with and I'm in positions to do so now or in the future I'm definitely more inclined to do. GM relations. Some may think of it as just fantasy hockey but I think of it much more as a community than just fantasy hockey.

[Arian The Insider]

Will did really well today

[KapG]

Price of a back up is a 1st rounder

Says who exactly?

Says that's what billy and many others have paid


I guess the price is now a 2nd though thankfully

There is no set price on anything. One GM may have gotten a certain price in the past but I don't think that may be the case now. We have a different group here with different long term views and different short term views. Different isn't bad. A given GM might pay a certain price but there could be lots of variations that go into why they may or may not do that. For example Chuck wanted the world from me for Miller but I refused his asking price. Scott felt the need to ensure that he safely met goalies GP. IMO not even close to what I was asked for but really it is simply what one GM is willing to pay, and what another GM is willing to accept. On that note Scott is always pleasant to deal with and if there is a deal i can help him with and I'm in positions to do so now or in the future I'm definitely more inclined to do. GM relations. Some may think of it as just fantasy hockey but I think of it much more as a community than just fantasy hockey.

Easy to say all this when you've made out quite well today

[Lee]

People seem to be forgetting that Scott got what is currently 33rd overall.

[kyuss]

literally no idea why Scott whould do this.

( not trading Raanta, rather.. trading Raanta for a 1 round upgrade)

[Shoalzie]

People seem to be forgetting that Scott got what is currently 33rd overall.

Thank you Lee for recognizing that. The Columbus 3rd currently would be the 73rd overall pick and I've basically jumped 40 spots to just outside the 1st round.

Sorry for not being greedier than some other GMs but I had no 2nd round picks and now I grab one just outside the 1st. Raanta seems like a decent goalie but I don't get the obsession over him.

[Shoalzie]

You want me to make a trade today?

I sent you an offer involving GP and you didn't respond.

[Shoalzie]

The idea of market price of (backup) goalies is a bit warped.

Yeah, I traded J.T. Brown for Anders Lindback but based on the situation with my team (owning Coyotes goalies and needing GP)...I think I'm the only team that would go anywhere near that price. Lindback is at most worth a 2nd round pick...is probably closer to a 3rd given his poor play these last two years. That would've been the price I would've preferred to pay but problem is...I didn't own a 2nd round pick at the time.

If you went around the league to the other 28 teams...nobody would've given up a decent roster player for him. Matthew took advantage of a situation where one team needed the player he had and he capitalized. It seems silly what it costs for a goalie that plays in a 1/4 of the games and now he has a blown out Achilles and never played a single game for my team.

We don't really have a market price...it's still dictated on supply and demand. If one team needs something and only one team has what that team needs...it creates an inflated value.

[lightupdadarkness]

Price of a back up is a 1st rounder

Says who exactly?

Says that's what billy and many others have paid


I guess the price is now a 2nd though thankfully

There is no set price on anything. One GM may have gotten a certain price in the past but I don't think that may be the case now. We have a different group here with different long term views and different short term views. Different isn't bad. A given GM might pay a certain price but there could be lots of variations that go into why they may or may not do that. For example Chuck wanted the world from me for Miller but I refused his asking price. Scott felt the need to ensure that he safely met goalies GP. IMO not even close to what I was asked for but really it is simply what one GM is willing to pay, and what another GM is willing to accept. On that note Scott is always pleasant to deal with and if there is a deal i can help him with and I'm in positions to do so now or in the future I'm definitely more inclined to do. GM relations. Some may think of it as just fantasy hockey but I think of it much more as a community than just fantasy hockey.

Easy to say all this when you've made out quite well today[/quote

That's what happens when you have players people want and tons of cap space. Even after taking on Hank I have over 16+ in cap space. Some guys want to get ahead of the cap crunch while others prefer to wait. Also no I turned down other goalies deals in the past where I was asked for bigger names bc I didn't think it was worth it. How I made out has nothing to do with my statement.

[lightupdadarkness]

The idea of market price of (backup) goalies is a bit warped.

Yeah, I traded J.T. Brown for Anders Lindback but based on the situation with my team (owning Coyotes goalies and needing GP)...I think I'm the only team that would go anywhere near that price. Lindback is at most worth a 2nd round pick...is probably closer to a 3rd given his poor play these last two years. That would've been the price I would've preferred to pay but problem is...I didn't own a 2nd round pick at the time.

If you went around the league to the other 28 teams...nobody would've given up a decent roster player for him. Matthew took advantage of a situation where one team needed the player he had and he capitalized. It seems silly what it costs for a goalie that plays in a 1/4 of the games and now he has a blown out Achilles and never played a single game for my team.

We don't really have a market price...it's still dictated on supply and demand. If one team needs something and only one team has what that team needs...it creates an inflated value.

Ding ding ding.

[KapG]

Price of a back up is a 1st rounder

Says who exactly?

There is no set price on anything. One GM may have gotten a certain price in the past but I don't think that may be the case now. We have a different group here with different long term views and different short term views. Different isn't bad. A given GM might pay a certain price but there could be lots of variations that go into why they may or may not do that. For example Chuck wanted the world from me for Miller but I refused his asking price. Scott felt the need to ensure that he safely met goalies GP. IMO not even close to what I was asked for but really it is simply what one GM is willing to pay, and what another GM is willing to accept. On that note Scott is always pleasant to deal with and if there is a deal i can help him with and I'm in positions to do so now or in the future I'm definitely more inclined to do. GM relations. Some may think of it as just fantasy hockey but I think of it much more as a community than just fantasy hockey.

Easy to say all this when you've made out quite well today[/quote

That's what happens when you have players people want and tons of cap space. Even after taking on Hank I have over 16+ in cap space. Some guys want to get ahead of the cap crunch while others prefer to wait. Also no I turned down other goalies deals in the past where I was asked for bigger names bc I didn't think it was worth it. How I made out has nothing to do with my statement.

When people are writing out walls of texts trying to explain themselves they either know they made out really well so they try to look modest or they know they got pumped and are trying to defend themselves.

[lightupdadarkness]

Or people are just a bit upset that the goalie market might be changing