Steven Stamkos

[Nick]

i offered it with an add (small value, but effective depth C), sure seem like any offer you send in this place gets rumoured about 19 ways though.

[The BBKL Insider]

Seems like an offer he should accept

[Nick]

Meh, I get not. League loves C and hates big contract wingers. regardless of performance.


I had Bobby Ryan who is a reliable 100hits 20g, 30a, stpts, sog, and just 29 years old... had is basically give him away to get under the cap.

[Arian The Insider]

Meh, I get not. League loves C and hates big contract wingers. regardless of performance.


I had Bobby Ryan who is a reliable 100hits 20g, 30a, stpts, sog, and just 29 years old... had is basically give him away to get under the cap.

cap hit: 7.25 for 6 more years

better to leave that out though

[CasperX22]

Not 3 prospects that should be involved in a stamkos deal.

Well, everyone has their opinion. Lets also neglect that Zajac is in the offer though.

[lightupdadarkness]

I'm interested in everything in this block

[Bruyns]

Paul I was discussing that deal with Shiv not Koomzz and it was Plekanec + Polak + Crouse + 1st for Stamkos + Boyle + Lewis/Wingels + 2nd

I felt I was giving up too much and wanted Crouse or your 1st taken out and Shiv didn't agree so it died and he made another deal.

[Nick]

Meh, I get not. League loves C and hates big contract wingers. regardless of performance.


I had Bobby Ryan who is a reliable 100hits 20g, 30a, stpts, sog, and just 29 years old... had is basically give him away to get under the cap.

cap hit: 7.25 for 6 more years

better to leave that out though

73M cap - scorers cost cap once they've proven reliable at it, wingers who actually score and do something else tend to cost more. 56th in points and you know what you're getting...again and again. Not about to decline, 3 years ago if a player was over 32 they were hard to move, now if they are over 6M they are hard to move. It's like we're paying them ourselves.

[Robin Hood]

Paul I was discussing that deal with Shiv not Koomzz and it was Plekanec + Polak + Crouse + 1st for Stamkos + Boyle + Lewis/Wingels + 2nd

I felt I was giving up too much and wanted Crouse or your 1st taken out and Shiv didn't agree so it died and he made another deal.

It was Plekanec Backes*

But yea we were apart a bit so talks feel through

[Arian The Insider]

Meh, I get not. League loves C and hates big contract wingers. regardless of performance.


I had Bobby Ryan who is a reliable 100hits 20g, 30a, stpts, sog, and just 29 years old... had is basically give him away to get under the cap.

cap hit: 7.25 for 6 more years

better to leave that out though

73M cap - scorers cost cap once they've proven reliable at it, wingers who actually score and do something else tend to cost more. 56th in points and you know what you're getting...again and again. Not about to decline, 3 years ago if a player was over 32 they were hard to move, now if they are over 6M they are hard to move. It's like we're paying them ourselves.

45 guys in front of him reached the 56 point mark in their careers before this year. Yes, some are not perennial 55+ point scorers but that's because they haven't played as many years or have just started to hit their prime. They're all talented enough to do it again.

So you'd be cool with paying 7.25+ for the other 45? He's 24th in AAV for active players, if you were wondering.

Last I checked all teams are to follow the salary cap. If he was actually producing to justify 7.25 mil or close to it, I don't think you would've had any problem moving him.

[Matthew]

People are going a little overboard on this whole cap hit thing. Great players get paid. If you want a great player he is gonna have a big cap unless he is on a rookie contract. Deal with it.

But yeah, a guy like bobby ryan is definitely overpaid.

[Arian The Insider]

People are going a little overboard on this whole cap hit thing. Great players get paid. If you want a great player he is gonna have a big cap unless he is on a rookie contract. Deal with it.

But yeah, a guy like bobby ryan is definitely overpaid.

i'd easily take Kane @ 10.5 over Ryan @ 7.25 for example

[Shep]

I can see that the horrible offers still exist around here.