expansion draft

[thom54]

In theory teams struggling to make gp should have some prospects close to making the jump in a year where more prospects should make the jump than normal. The teams that are going to be hurt the most are teams with old rosters and not much in the pipeline.

This sounds like Tony, Billy, and Cam.

Everyone else should be fine.

The player I lose will be better than anyone on Paul's team.

[Tony]

In theory teams struggling to make gp should have some prospects close to making the jump in a year where more prospects should make the jump than normal. The teams that are going to be hurt the most are teams with old rosters and not much in the pipeline.

This sounds like Tony, Billy, and Cam.

Everyone else should be fine.

[Matthew]

In theory teams struggling to make gp should have some prospects close to making the jump in a year where more prospects should make the jump than normal. The teams that are going to be hurt the most are teams with old rosters and not much in the pipeline.

This sounds like Tony, Billy, and Cam.

Everyone else should be fine.

Tony actually has some surprisingly good prospects: he just graduated mantha, has rykov, and an arguably top 3 prospect in kaprizov. If he continues to collect he may not need to rebuild for long once the time comes.

[CAM]

Thank you for the links and info.

So Can i assume from this statement:

First & Second Year Pros
All players who have accrued two or less professional seasons at the end of the 2016-17 season, as well as all unsigned draft choices appearing on the teams reserve list, will be exempt from the upcoming expansion draft.

That, if i have a player who entered the league in 15-16 season and at the end of 16-17 season will have played approx 100 games, that i do not need to expose this player?

The player you are talking about has played 4 professional seasons (AHL + NHL) and thus has to be protected.

OK. AHL counts. got it. I hate expansion. Might as well just toss my picks in garbage.

Everyone is going to lose someone. It's not like you are the only one that is going to lose a valuable piece.

I get that, but i can still state my personal opinion that it sucks for my team. I didnt mean to insinuate the process overall sucks. (bad wording) I know it has to happen and can be exciting, especially for the team making the picks. Based on the players that will be available, the expansion team will be in the top half overall in this league. I do not have the depth to cover a lost player. It feels almost like a tax on the upper echelon teams. Ah well, tough decisions ahead. Do you keep the 31 yr old making 7 mil with top of the line stats across the board or the 24 yr old up and comer with potential...possibly? Very tough decisions.

[Lee]

I'm going to lose a 26 year old dman who just put up 51 points or a 26 year old winger who just scored 30 goals. Boo hoo.

[CAM]

I'm going to lose a 26 year old dman who just put up 51 points or a 26 year old winger who just scored 30 goals. Boo hoo.

Right there with ya pal. Im not boohooing. I am just angry old man ranting. I do that on a daily basis. Its kinda my thing. I'll get over it pretty fast.

[Matthew]

You could also trade those high end players to a team with space and get lesser player + depth or prospects.

[CasperX22]

I'm going to lose a 26 year old dman who just put up 51 points or a 26 year old winger who just scored 30 goals. Boo hoo.

Or you could just trade them and get something for them instead of losing them for nothing.

[Lee]

That's why I've been trying to do. But then you get people telling you that you make bad offers and refuse to make offers so meh.

[CasperX22]

That's why I've been trying to do. But then you get people telling you that you make bad offers and refuse to make offers so meh.

You offered him and a injury prone defender for 2 studly expansion exempt 20 year old NHL defenders. And offered him for a 19 year dman playing 25 mins a night in the playoffs+another one of the best scoring prospects in hockey. Make reasonable offers and I'm sure he will get sold.

[Matthew]

Guys trying to move their high end players they can't keep for futures prob won't get full price for them, cuz u gotta think the team receiving that player will need to bump a player onto the unprotected list. But you could still get decent futures.

Trades aren't always easy, but I'm sure you will find something decent. Keep it up.

[kimmer]

Why doesn't everyone by logic, wait til last day before expansion list submission day and start the reverse bidding process at 7th round pick to however "high" that player goes for.

That way the seller cant complain and can take the deal or leave it. Take the deal meaning u assume u will lose the player outright thru expansion and u will take whatever u can get

Leaving the deal meaning u wud rather take nothing and risk losing the player outright or wish on luck that tim doesnt select ur guy

[Lee]

That's why I've been trying to do. But then you get people telling you that you make bad offers and refuse to make offers so meh.

You offered him and a injury prone defender for 2 studly expansion exempt 20 year old NHL defenders. And offered him for a 19 year dman playing 25 mins a night in the playoffs+another one of the best scoring prospects in hockey. Make reasonable offers and I'm sure he will get sold.

You may want to educate yourself as to why Myers missed so much time:

http://www.winnipegsun.com/2017/03/14/j ... erspective

[Matthew]

That's why I've been trying to do. But then you get people telling you that you make bad offers and refuse to make offers so meh.

You offered him and a injury prone defender for 2 studly expansion exempt 20 year old NHL defenders. And offered him for a 19 year dman playing 25 mins a night in the playoffs+another one of the best scoring prospects in hockey. Make reasonable offers and I'm sure he will get sold.

You may want to educate yourself as to why Myers missed so much time:

http://www.winnipegsun.com/2017/03/14/j ... erspective

Man, that is a rough situation. Far harder than having a personal injury.

[CasperX22]

That's why I've been trying to do. But then you get people telling you that you make bad offers and refuse to make offers so meh.

You offered him and a injury prone defender for 2 studly expansion exempt 20 year old NHL defenders. And offered him for a 19 year dman playing 25 mins a night in the playoffs+another one of the best scoring prospects in hockey. Make reasonable offers and I'm sure he will get sold.

You may want to educate yourself as to why Myers missed so much time:

http://www.winnipegsun.com/2017/03/14/j ... erspective

I'm sorry which part of my statement is untrue? Are you seriously trying to tell me Myers has been a pillar of good health in his career? Thats without even taking into account age, statistical output, contract, and expansion.

[Lee]

So. Math time.

This was the first time since 2013 that he has missed significant time.

2015 - 16 : 73 gp
14 - 15: 71
13 -14: 62
12 - 13 : 39 (lockout)
11 - 12: 55 GO
Previous 2 seasons - 80 and 82 games.

His age? He just turned 27 2 months ago.

His offensive production? He has been above 20 points every year except 2

He averages 2.31 shtoi over his career, more pp/toi . Well over block / hit per game.

So keep pulling shit out of your ass. You sound retarded and you are wrong. I can admit when I am.

[CasperX22]

55,62,11. So in what 8 seasons he has missed a quarter or not of the season 3 times? Let's ignore those seasons. Or let's ignore that he hasn't scored 30 points since his 2nd season in the league and produces mostly average stats. Or that you asked for 2 20 year old expansion exempt top pair defenders that produced at/near #1 dman stats. Yep I'm wrong. Clearly you made a great offer.

[Lee]

alright so going back to ignoring you. I've already admitted it was a bad offer because I didn't look at the stats and I was wrong. not sure what else you want.

[CasperX22]

Lol! Truth hurts.

[CAM]

Why doesn't everyone by logic, wait til last day before expansion list submission day and start the reverse bidding process at 7th round pick to however "high" that player goes for.

That way the seller cant complain and can take the deal or leave it. Take the deal meaning u assume u will lose the player outright thru expansion and u will take whatever u can get

Leaving the deal meaning u wud rather take nothing and risk losing the player outright or wish on luck that tim doesnt select ur guy

I like Pauls idea. Gives a little bit of power to the sellers in another wise lose lose situation.