SJ-NYR

[foofnik]

To NYR:
Jeff Skinner

To SJ:
2021 3rd rounder FLA
2021 6th rounder NYR

[KapG]

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Thanks for the solid talks (I’m a haggler by nature sorry lol)

[CasperX22]

Fair considering the circumstances. Not like Josh paid much for Skinner when he bought him in the 1st place.

[bills09]

Would have paid a 2nd

[CasperX22]

Would have paid a 2nd

You probably still can.

[KapG]

Nah I got plenty of cap space left even after adding him. My ask would be a lot higher lol

[Da_Hawks]

Nah I got plenty of cap space left even after adding him. My ask would be a lot higher lol

9 million dollar Skinner isn't worth a whole heck of a lot. Would have to be a ppg player to be worth it. Doesn't pk, doesn't hit... He's a great player for a rebuilding team... that's about it.

[Matthew]

When u get a player that can potentially come back and throw up a point/game (or even 50 points) for a 3rd+6th, and you have cap room, I think you hold that player, unless u get a good offer. Cap space doesn't do anything unless you use it.

Nice pick up, kapg.

[KapG]

Nah I got plenty of cap space left even after adding him. My ask would be a lot higher lol

9 million dollar Skinner isn't worth a whole heck of a lot. Would have to be a ppg player to be worth it. Doesn't pk, doesn't hit... He's a great player for a rebuilding team... that's about it.

He’s 28 and the cap will go up once covid is done.

30-40goals is 30-40 goals. I’ve also heard stuff like that for soooo many of the guys I’ve traded the last year and a bit. Typically get what I’d like when I choose to move someone. Just need to exercise patience tbh. Cap space helps too

He hits every offensive category pretty damn well and there are lots of them. You’re underselling his value afaic. If he has a bounce back season plenty of ppl will be interested in him. You’re out to lunch if you think otherwise. Lots of excellent squads in here have lots of deadweight when it comes to cap hits. I can swallow those up making a 9milluon dollar skinner manageable.

Anyways, all I paid was a mid-late 3rd and a 6th. That’s absolutely nothing

[KapG]

When u get a player that can potentially come back and throw up a point/game (or even 50 points) for a 3rd+6th, and you have cap room, I think you hold that player, unless u get a good offer. Cap space doesn't do anything unless you use it.

Nice pick up, kapg.

Thanks Matthew. This is basically how I view it also. No brainer trade. Foof was nice enough to send an inquiry my way which I really appreciated

[CasperX22]

When u get a player that can potentially come back and throw up a point/game (or even 50 points) for a 3rd+6th, and you have cap room, I think you hold that player, unless u get a good offer. Cap space doesn't do anything unless you use it.

Nice pick up, kapg.

Like DaHawks pretty much said, he's a good piece for a rebuilding team. Hard to justify his contract for any team trying to contend. He pretty much needs to play with Eichel to play like the elite player his contract says he is. He's unfortunately probably stuck trying to provide secondary scoring for the 2nd line. We shall see.

[Handsome&FairMike]

That cap is an anchor but I would expect him to get up past 25 goals again so definitely could be worse. Good potential buy low if you can stomach the cap. And if he continues to suck, he’ll likely be bought out... then a much better BBKL piece (a la Bobby Ryan)

[KapG]

That cap is an anchor but I would expect him to get up past 25 goals again so definitely could be worse. Good potential buy low if you can stomach the cap. And if he continues to suck, he’ll likely be bought out... then a much better BBKL piece (a la Bobby Ryan)

I have 10 mill or so of cap space left still off the top of my head. Even with the brutal season he was having last year he was pacing for 26 btw

[CasperX22]

That cap is an anchor but I would expect him to get up past 25 goals again so definitely could be worse. Good potential buy low if you can stomach the cap. And if he continues to suck, he’ll likely be bought out... then a much better BBKL piece (a la Bobby Ryan)

Who is buying out that contract? That said, it's a fine buy here, but his market is limited to teams with cap space that are rebuilding or middling and can afford to spend cap on an inefficient player like Skinner. And it will probably continue to be that way.

[foofnik]

My market for him was small and most who I talked about with him essentially wanted payment on top to take him on. Removing him solves my cap problem in one swoop. No contender can fit him without moving money back. If he rebounds and/or gets bought out eventually bu Buffalo then his value can only go up. But I paid little to acquire him and he solves all my problems instantly right now with this. No brainer from my side.

[KapG]

My market for him was small and most who I talked about with him essentially wanted payment on top to take him on. Removing him solves my cap problem in one swoop. No contender can fit him without moving money back. If he rebounds and/or gets bought out eventually bu Buffalo then his value can only go up. But I paid little to acquire him and he solves all my problems instantly right now with this. No brainer from my side.

One of those win wins

[Jordan (VGK)]

My market for him was small and most who I talked about with him essentially wanted payment on top to take him on. Removing him solves my cap problem in one swoop. No contender can fit him without moving money back. If he rebounds and/or gets bought out eventually bu Buffalo then his value can only go up. But I paid little to acquire him and he solves all my problems instantly right now with this. No brainer from my side.

I feel attacked

[foofnik]

My market for him was small and most who I talked about with him essentially wanted payment on top to take him on. Removing him solves my cap problem in one swoop. No contender can fit him without moving money back. If he rebounds and/or gets bought out eventually bu Buffalo then his value can only go up. But I paid little to acquire him and he solves all my problems instantly right now with this. No brainer from my side.

I feel attacked

Yours was fair. I'm just being lazy and know I won't have time to cut an additional 4-5m afterwards. And pay a certain player.

[Jordan (VGK)]

My market for him was small and most who I talked about with him essentially wanted payment on top to take him on. Removing him solves my cap problem in one swoop. No contender can fit him without moving money back. If he rebounds and/or gets bought out eventually bu Buffalo then his value can only go up. But I paid little to acquire him and he solves all my problems instantly right now with this. No brainer from my side.

I feel attacked

Yours was fair. I'm just being lazy and know I won't have time to cut an additional 4-5m afterwards. And pay a certain player.

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[Loki]

Nice cheap pickup for NYR, cap space is a rare thing atm