Philly Block: The Jamaican Trade Deadline edition

[Lee]

I will not be here next week and probably won't be on here on the 28th. So this week is my trade deadline


Best players being actively shopped:
Justin Williams
Jochen Hecht
Rostislav Olesz
Matt Niskanen
One of Mattias Ohlund / Henrik Tallinder / Bryan Allen

Guys for draft picks:
Hannu Toivonen
Tyson Sexsmith
Johan Motin
Mark Mitera
Austin Levi
Francois Bouchard
Kaspars Daugavins
Mike Brodeur

On the market:
Justin Falk
Mark Cundari
Scott Parse
Mike Commodore
Anton Stralman
Marek Svatos
Matt Hunwick
John McCarthy
Matt Stajan
Steve Bernier
Jesse Joensuu
Matt Niskanen
Brandon Mashinter
Joe VItale
Darcy Hordichuk

Probably not being traded:
Benjamin Conz
Simon Bertilsson
Brandon Manning
Ryan Button
Michael Stone
Jerry D'Amigo
Linden Vey
Matt Fraser
Levko Koper
Marek Videnski
Adam Henrique
Pascal Leclaire
Brian Elliott
Jan Mursak
Erik Gustafsson
Petr Straka
Josh Harding
Kenny Ryan

As close to untouchable as you get on a last place team:
Fabian Brunnstrom
Tyson Barrie
Taylor Doherty
Cedrick Desjardins
Alex Petrovic
Marcus Foligno
Craig Cunningham
David Desharnais
Devante Smith-Pelly
William Wrenn

Looking for picks and prospects. I'm willing to downgrade my NHLers.

[Lee]

Bump. Avery with 3 assists today.

[Lee]

As Tyutin has heated up, so have the offers recently. I wouldn't say I'm looking to move him, but I'm willing to listen.

[Lee]

Everyone is available for futures.


Matt Stajan
David Desharnais
Brandon Mashinter
Jochen Hecht
Tim Connolly

Tomas Kopecky
Jesse Joensuu
Mike Cammalleri
Steve Bernier
Marek Svatos
Rostislav Olesz
Sean Avery

Bryan Allen
Fedor Tyutin
Mike Commodore
Anton Stralman
Henrik Tallinder
Mattias Ohlund

Pascal LeClaire
Brian Elliott

Jan Mursak
Jed Ortmeyer
Aaron Volpatti

Josh Harding
Kurt Sauer
Scott Parse


Ryan Potulny
Andrew Crescenzi
Nicholas Drazenovic
Kaspars Daugavins
Marek Viedensky

John McCarthy
Levko Koper
Craig Cunningham
Francois Bouchard
Brendan Ranford
Brandon Kozun
Matt Fraser
Fabian Brunnstrom
Linden Vey

Michael Stone
Simon Danis-Pepin
Austin Levi
Ryan Button
Mark Cundari
Tyson Barrie
Alex Petrovic
Brett Carson
Mark Mitera
Brandon Manning
Taylor Doherty
Simon Bertilsson
Justin Falk
Johan Motin
Vladimir Mihalik
Dylan Reese

Tyson Sexsmith
Hannu Toivonen
Mike Brodeur
Cedrick Desjardins

[anton]

you're trading your roster for future considerations?

[Lee]

Future assets, IE picks, prospects.

[anton]

good thing you traded 1st overall then

[Lee]

For sure . I've turned the assets that I originally received for that pick into 4 times the worth. I went from losing series 12-0 to beating det and coming close to winning my last 2 matchups and I'm no longer in last place.

[Lee]

Very good chance that all of Avery, Kopecky and Cammalleri move before today's lock.

[Shoalzie]

So, you traded the first overall pick so you wouldn't finish last but you're still going to finish no better than 29th. To me, I don't think it was worth it. Going into next year, you'll have an okay team...not a playoff team but you're better than what you were going into this year. When you trade that pick, you pretty had to improve dramatically and all you did was go up by one spot...and it's not like you're not at risk of falling back into last place if you're going to trade away pieces that helped you slowly crawl from last place. Trading it during the season just doesn't seem like the time if you're destined to finish near the bottom regardless. Whether you finished 30th or 29th...you still would've had a high pick and it woud've been something you could've gotten a lot more in return in the offseason when teams are more liberal with trading their better pieces.

I forget when you joined us but you'd be amazed at how many teams are willing to move stuff they wouldn't move during the season. Contending teams won't trade you something that is helping them win during the season but during the summer, (almost) everything is fair game. To me, you took a major risk doing that trade when you did and all it got you was out of last place. You're better now than you were then before the season but I think most of us think you shouldn't have traded that pick. When you're going to finish near the bottom, there's no sense in trying to be cute or clever unless you make a truly impactful move.

Different strokes I guess...I wish you luck, man!

[Lee]

1 very good prospect and a shit team VS a team that competes every week, stole points and had the potential to make the play-offs... I'm well aware that I MIGHT have been able to get more had I waited, but I had no assets to flip in the meantime. I'd rather build over time than hold onto one pick and hope that he pans out. I was the absolute worst team when I took over... I'm not now.

[MSP4LYFE]

So, you traded the first overall pick so you wouldn't finish last but you're still going to finish no better than 29th. To me, I don't think it was worth it. Going into next year, you'll have an okay team...not a playoff team but you're better than what you were going into this year. When you trade that pick, you pretty had to improve dramatically and all you did was go up by one spot...and it's not like you're not at risk of falling back into last place if you're going to trade away pieces that helped you slowly crawl from last place. Trading it during the season just doesn't seem like the time if you're destined to finish near the bottom regardless. Whether you finished 30th or 29th...you still would've had a high pick and it woud've been something you could've gotten a lot more in return in the offseason when teams are more liberal with trading their better pieces.

I forget when you joined us but you'd be amazed at how many teams are willing to move stuff they wouldn't move during the season. Contending teams won't trade you something that is helping them win during the season but during the summer, (almost) everything is fair game. To me, you took a major risk doing that trade when you did and all it got you was out of last place. You're better now than you were then before the season but I think most of us think you shouldn't have traded that pick. When you're going to finish near the bottom, there's no sense in trying to be cute or clever unless you make a truly impactful move.

Different strokes I guess...I wish you luck, man!

I don't think I've disagreed with one of your posts all season...Great insight, as always.

[Lee]

So, you traded the first overall pick so you wouldn't finish last but you're still going to finish no better than 29th. To me, I don't think it was worth it. Going into next year, you'll have an okay team...not a playoff team but you're better than what you were going into this year. When you trade that pick, you pretty had to improve dramatically and all you did was go up by one spot...and it's not like you're not at risk of falling back into last place if you're going to trade away pieces that helped you slowly crawl from last place. Trading it during the season just doesn't seem like the time if you're destined to finish near the bottom regardless. Whether you finished 30th or 29th...you still would've had a high pick and it woud've been something you could've gotten a lot more in return in the offseason when teams are more liberal with trading their better pieces.

I forget when you joined us but you'd be amazed at how many teams are willing to move stuff they wouldn't move during the season. Contending teams won't trade you something that is helping them win during the season but during the summer, (almost) everything is fair game. To me, you took a major risk doing that trade when you did and all it got you was out of last place. You're better now than you were then before the season but I think most of us think you shouldn't have traded that pick. When you're going to finish near the bottom, there's no sense in trying to be cute or clever unless you make a truly impactful move.

Different strokes I guess...I wish you luck, man!

I don't think I've disagreed with one of your posts all season...Great insight, as always.

Yup, Shoalzie makes some great posts and he does bring up some very valid points. I firmly believe that I am better for trading that pick and making the moves that I have made as a result.

[MSP4LYFE]

Yeah, that's fair and by no means is it a fact which move was right. More of a wait and see thing.

[Lee]

Radim Vrbata added to the list.

[Lee]

Who wants Vrbata, Cammalleri or Tyutin before the lock?

Load up for the playoffs, boys. Load me up for the future

[Shep]

Who wants Vrbata, Cammalleri or Tyutin before the lock?

Load up for the playoffs, boys. Load me up for the future

Tyutin I do.

[Lee]

We discussed ad nauseum today. You know what it would take

Seriously. It was like 5 hours.

[Shep]

How is Tyutin worth THAT much more than Avery?

[Lee]

There's a reason why everyone wants dmen, and no one wants to trade the good ones. Nelson was a first rounder who fell a bit in the draft (didn't see you offering Galiev, Pulkkinen or powderpuff ) and Henrique is having a solid year in the Devils farm system. Dmen do cost more. Just like goalies