[2010] Entry Draft Discussion

[Scott]

Would love to see some people's first round rankings - see if it's worth grabbing a pick.

I'll do one later.

Nice Billy.. I love reading these.. I'll do one too

[Scott]

I'm not paying attention to who owns the picks, just the way I see the 1st round as far as BPA.

1st - Ryan Nugent-Hopkins
2nd - Gabriel Landeskog
3rd - Sean Couturier
4th - Adam Larsson
5th - Ryan Strome
6th - Jonathan Huberdeau
7th - Ryan Murphy
8th - Dougie Hamilton
9th - Mika Zibanejad
10th - Sven Baertschi
11th - Duncan Siemens
12th - Joel Armia
13th - Jamison Oleksiak
14th - Vladislav Namestnikov
15th - Mark McNeill
16th - Zack Phillips
17th - Joe Morrow
18th - Mark Scheifele
19th - Jonas Brodin
20th - Tyler Biggs
21st - Brandon Saad
22nd - Ty Rattie
23rd - Nicklas Jensen
24th - Boon Jenner
25th - Thomas Jurco
26th - Matthew Puempel
27th - Scott Mayfield
28th - Oscar Klefbom
29th - Alexander Khokhlachev
30th - Jonathan Miller

[Shep]

I'll do one, same as Scott, based strictly on what I feel I would rank them.

I'll do a "based on BBKL Picks" closer to our draft.

[bills09]

My Mock

1. Edmonton Oilers - Ryan Nugent-Hopkins
2. Colorado Avalanche - Gabriel Landeskog
3. Florida Panthers - Sean Couturier
4. New Jersey Devils - Adam Larsson
5. New York Islanders - Dougie Hamilton
6. Ottawa Senators - Johnathan Huberdeau
7. Atlanta Thrashers - Ryan Strome
8. Colombus Blue Jackets - Ryan Murphy
9. Boston Bruins - Duncan Siemens
10. Minnesota Wild - Joel Armia
11. Colorado Avalanche - Jamie Oleksiak
12. Carolina Hurricanes - Nathan Beaulieu
13. Calgary Flames - Mika Zibanejad
14. Dallas Stars - Mark McNeil
15. New York Rangers - Tyler Biggs
16. Buffalo Sabres - Sven Bartschi
17. Montreal Canadiens - Ty Ratti
18. Chicago Blackhawks - Brandon Saad
19. Edmonton Oilers - Jonas Brodin
20. Phoenix Coyotes - David Musil
21. Ottawa Senators - Matt Puemple
22. Anaheim Ducks - Niklas Jensen
23. Pittsburgh Penguins - Vladislav Namestnikov
24. Detroit Red Wings - Dimitrij Jaskin
25. Toronto Maple Leafs - Mark Schefeile
26. Washington Capitals - Daniel Cattenacci
27. Tampa Bay Lightning - JT Miller
28. San Jose Sharks - Zach Phillips
29. Toronto Maple Leafs - Boone Jenner
30. Vancouver Canucks - Scott Mayfeild

[Scott]

Fuck, I can't believe i forgot Nathan Beaulieu lol..

[bills09]

Fuck, I can't believe i forgot Nathan Beaulieu lol..

what a steal at 31

[Nick]

My take is something like (mostly focused on top 15, not much thought in later).

1. Edmonton Oilers - Ryan Nugent-Hopkins
2. Colorado Avalanche - Gabriel Landeskog
3. Florida Panthers - Johnathan Huberdeau - Talon will love this kid if I had to bet, tons of character and insane mitts, NHL level finishing
4. New Jersey Devils - Sean Couturier
5. New York Islanders - Adam Larsson
6. Ottawa Senators - Ryan Strome
7. Atlanta Thrashers - Dougie Hamilton
8. Colombus Blue Jackets - Ryan Murphy - Steal back here
9. Boston Bruins - Jamie Oleksiak
-------------------------------------------- Need more prep from here down
10. Minnesota Wild - Joel Armia
11. Colorado Avalanche - Mika Zibanejad
12. Carolina Hurricanes - Nathan Beaulieu
13. Calgary Flames - Duncan Siemens
14. Dallas Stars - David Musil
15. New York Rangers - Tyler Biggs
16. Buffalo Sabres - Ty Ratti
17. Montreal Canadiens - Jonas Brodin
18. Chicago Blackhawks - Brandon Saad
19. Edmonton Oilers - Matt Puemple
20. Phoenix Coyotes - Mark McNeil
21. Ottawa Senators - Sven Bartschi
22. Anaheim Ducks - Mark Schefeile
23. Pittsburgh Penguins - Vladislav Namestnikov
24. Detroit Red Wings - Dimitrij Jaskin
25. Toronto Maple Leafs - Daniel Cattenacci
26. Washington Capitals - Niklas Jensen
27. Tampa Bay Lightning - JT Miller
28. San Jose Sharks - Zach Phillips
29. Toronto Maple Leafs - Boone Jenner
30. Vancouver Canucks - Scott Mayfeild

[bills09]

wow you have the leafs taking Catenacci over Jensen
you crazy foo'!

[Nick]

Ye I doubt Burke ever allows someone so slim & short to be drafted in the first round

[bills09]

cant wait for UND next season with Grimaldi+JT Miller on that roster.
added to their young core of Corban Knight Derek Forbort and Brock Nelson
even if Grimaldi never makes the nhl, hes gonna rape the ncaa.

[Shep]

My take is something like (mostly focused on top 15, not much thought in later).

1. Edmonton Oilers - Ryan Nugent-Hopkins
2. Colorado Avalanche - Gabriel Landeskog
3. Florida Panthers - Johnathan Huberdeau - Talon will love this kid if I had to bet, tons of character and insane mitts, NHL level finishing
4. New Jersey Devils - Sean Couturier
5. New York Islanders - Adam Larsson
6. Ottawa Senators - Ryan Strome
7. Atlanta Thrashers - Dougie Hamilton
8. Colombus Blue Jackets - Ryan Murphy - Steal back here
9. Boston Bruins - Jamie Oleksiak
-------------------------------------------- Need more prep from here down

There is no way Larsson drops to 5th.

[Scott]

My take is something like (mostly focused on top 15, not much thought in later).

1. Edmonton Oilers - Ryan Nugent-Hopkins
2. Colorado Avalanche - Gabriel Landeskog
3. Florida Panthers - Johnathan Huberdeau - Talon will love this kid if I had to bet, tons of character and insane mitts, NHL level finishing
4. New Jersey Devils - Sean Couturier
5. New York Islanders - Adam Larsson
6. Ottawa Senators - Ryan Strome
7. Atlanta Thrashers - Dougie Hamilton
8. Colombus Blue Jackets - Ryan Murphy - Steal back here
9. Boston Bruins - Jamie Oleksiak
-------------------------------------------- Need more prep from here down

There is no way Larsson drops to 5th.

I 100% agree and if he does bonus for the dude with the 5th pick in the NHL & BBKL.. Larsson, imo has the ability and skillset to become the best player from this draft..

[bills09]

Disagree imo Larsson is a 30 point well round defencemen, I dont see a huge offensive game in him.

[Shep]

Disagree imo Larsson is a 30 point well round defencemen, I dont see a huge offensive game in him.

CRAZY

[Nick]

I 100% agree and if he does bonus for the dude with the 5th pick in the NHL & BBKL.. Larsson, imo has the ability and skillset to become the best player from this draft..

See, the way I see Larsson is that he's the safest pick anywhere in the draft. Sure to be an NHLer, sure to be Top-4 D-man and brings a wicked compete level along with a very typical NHL package. Yes he has upside past that, but simply hasn't been showing lots of it.

Whereas basically every other prospect has some REAL bust potential, well aside from Couturier (who also just doesn't seem AS likely to be a super-star, but is a lock IMO for a solid 2-way player). RNH is one of the bigger risks in the draft IMO, but producing the way he has, while being the pivot point for all of his teams offence means he's perhaps the most likely to be a big impact offensive player...risk is worth the reward.


From my POV Talon has a nice D-core all setup in FLA. What he still lacks is a player with real scoring punch, and IMO (no lie...or ?) the best goal-scorer in this draft is Hubs, and the kid has character which Talon is well known for putting a heavy emphasis on. Then IMO @ 4 it's a toss-up between Sean & Adam.

[Shep]

I 100% agree and if he does bonus for the dude with the 5th pick in the NHL & BBKL.. Larsson, imo has the ability and skillset to become the best player from this draft..

See, the way I see Larsson is that he's the safest pick anywhere in the draft. Sure to be an NHLer, sure to be Top-4 D-man and brings a wicked compete level along with a very typical NHL package. Yes he has upside past that, but simply hasn't been showing lots of it.

Whereas basically every other prospect has some REAL bust potential, well aside from Couturier (who also just doesn't seem AS likely to be a super-star, but is a lock IMO for a solid 2-way player). RNH is one of the bigger risks in the draft IMO, but producing the way he has, while being the pivot point for all of his teams offence means he's perhaps the most likely to be a big impact offensive player...risk is worth the reward.


From my POV Talon has a nice D-core all setup in FLA. What he still lacks is a player with real scoring punch, and IMO (no lie...or ?) the best goal-scorer in this draft is Hubs, and the kid has character which Talon is well known for putting a heavy emphasis on. Then IMO @ 4 it's a toss-up between Sean & Adam.

I disagree. As soon as RNH puts on weight he'll be the best player, bar-none, from this draft.

[Scott]

I 100% agree and if he does bonus for the dude with the 5th pick in the NHL & BBKL.. Larsson, imo has the ability and skillset to become the best player from this draft..

See, the way I see Larsson is that he's the safest pick anywhere in the draft. Sure to be an NHLer, sure to be Top-4 D-man and brings a wicked compete level along with a very typical NHL package. Yes he has upside past that, but simply hasn't been showing lots of it.

Whereas basically every other prospect has some REAL bust potential, well aside from Couturier (who also just doesn't seem AS likely to be a super-star, but is a lock IMO for a solid 2-way player). RNH is one of the bigger risks in the draft IMO, but producing the way he has, while being the pivot point for all of his teams offence means he's perhaps the most likely to be a big impact offensive player...risk is worth the reward.


From my POV Talon has a nice D-core all setup in FLA. What he still lacks is a player with real scoring punch, and IMO (no lie...or ?) the best goal-scorer in this draft is Hubs, and the kid has character which Talon is well known for putting a heavy emphasis on. Then IMO @ 4 it's a toss-up between Sean & Adam.

I agree Nick.. I just simply meant that with Larsson's skating, his ability to be a shutdown guy, and his big frame to go along with his smarts.. he has the potential to be a top player from this draft.. probably has the ability to be the best of the bunch. Do I think it will happen? No but I wouldn't be surprised if it did.

I just think his poor numbers are likely due to him playing against bigger, faster, stronger men. I'm not the biggest fan of Larsson but I haven't seen him play a ton either. I just feel Larsson's drop in the ranks could become a real bonus to whomever selects him.. like you say, he's a real safe pick with the ability to become a very good player.

[Nick]

I disagree. As soon as Turris puts on weight he'll be the best player, bar-none, from this draft.

wait... what? Joking aside I dunno what you disagreed with?

I said -> Risk is worth the reward and that he has the potential to have the most offensive impact of any player in the draft...

[Shep]

I disagree. As soon as Turris puts on weight he'll be the best player, bar-none, from this draft.

wait... what? Joking aside I dunno what you disagreed with?

I said -> Risk is worth the reward and that he has the potential to have the most offensive impact of any player in the draft...

I more meant that no questions asked RNH is the best player. FUCK LARSSON

[Nick]

ohhh icic.

Is he your fav prospect in the draft? or just BPA IYO ?