A defensive defenceman who struggles on the PK is not "irreplaceable."Chris wroteCOLONHe plays the third-most ES time on the team. In fact, it's climbing. He also gets the most defensive zone sets than anyone else other than I think Komisarek, though I'd have to check it. He looks great on ES, fucking horrific on the PK.
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A defensive defenseman who's 22-years old and struggling with one facet of the game isn't always exclusively replaceable, Kareem. Might want to check out how Doughty, Bogosian, and Myers are doing as well.MSP4LYFE wroteCOLONA defensive defenceman who struggles on the PK is not "irreplaceable."Chris wroteCOLONHe plays the third-most ES time on the team. In fact, it's climbing. He also gets the most defensive zone sets than anyone else other than I think Komisarek, though I'd have to check it. He looks great on ES, fucking horrific on the PK.
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Bogosian is kicking ass... though he was the last of the 4 to do so.
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Doughty and Myers are on different plateaus, I would take both in a struggling season over Schenn at his best. Both defenceman contribute at both ends of the ice, and can keep up with the play, Schenn's inability to skate at an above average level is likely what will prevent him from ever realizing his potential.Chris wroteCOLONA defensive defenseman who's 22-years old and struggling with one facet of the game isn't always exclusively replaceable, Kareem. Might want to check out how Doughty, Bogosian, and Myers are doing as well.MSP4LYFE wroteCOLONA defensive defenceman who struggles on the PK is not "irreplaceable."Chris wroteCOLONHe plays the third-most ES time on the team. In fact, it's climbing. He also gets the most defensive zone sets than anyone else other than I think Komisarek, though I'd have to check it. He looks great on ES, fucking horrific on the PK.
Bogosian is having a career season this year, so I'm not entirely sure how he fits into all of this.
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ill trade schenn for any top 6 forward who's under 30 without question.
the "HE'S ONLY 22 AND STILL DEVELOPING THINK ABOUT WHAT WE CAN BEEEEEEEE!!!!1" argument does not affect me in the slightest.
by nature of his playing style, luke schenn is a low ceiling player. he is not going to suddenly sprout offensive skills and incredible vision. even if he were to hit his ultimate ceiling, what does that make him? adam foote? habs-era komisarek?
even if schenn were to reach his ultimate peak, he'd still be replaceable.
the "HE'S ONLY 22 AND STILL DEVELOPING THINK ABOUT WHAT WE CAN BEEEEEEEE!!!!1" argument does not affect me in the slightest.
by nature of his playing style, luke schenn is a low ceiling player. he is not going to suddenly sprout offensive skills and incredible vision. even if he were to hit his ultimate ceiling, what does that make him? adam foote? habs-era komisarek?
even if schenn were to reach his ultimate peak, he'd still be replaceable.
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Hahahaha, so completely wrong.Nick wroteCOLONBogosian is kicking ass... though he was the last of the 4 to do so.
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Bogosian has been terrible. In fact, Nick holds two defensemen in the top-ten of being on the ice for a goal against. In fact, Bogosian and Fowler are two of the worst defensemen in terms of playing well... defense. Might want to retract that statement Nick. You're looking like a huge homer.
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you're an idiotChris wroteCOLONBogosian has been terrible. In fact, Nick holds two defensemen in the top-ten of being on the ice for a goal against. In fact, Bogosian and Fowler are two of the worst defensemen in terms of playing well... defense. Might want to retract that statement Nick. You're looking like a huge homer.
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Bingo!MSP4LYFE wroteCOLONA defensive defenceman who struggles on the PK is not "irreplaceable."Chris wroteCOLONHe plays the third-most ES time on the team. In fact, it's climbing. He also gets the most defensive zone sets than anyone else other than I think Komisarek, though I'd have to check it. He looks great on ES, fucking horrific on the PK.
I dont want to give the wrong impression, i like Schenn, but I think he's moveable and probably holds the most value (other than Dion) out of all of our dman. IMO when someone has the trade value of schenn and he really can't be relied on you gotta move him for an upgrade at another position. Especially since we are pretty deep on the backend.
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Oh noes.anton wroteCOLONyou're an idiotChris wroteCOLONBogosian has been terrible. In fact, Nick holds two defensemen in the top-ten of being on the ice for a goal against. In fact, Bogosian and Fowler are two of the worst defensemen in terms of playing well... defense. Might want to retract that statement Nick. You're looking like a huge homer.
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gosh, a smell a shit fest a-comin
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HI GUYS. I USE BBKL CATEGORIES TO DETERMINE NHL EFFECTIVENESS TO OBSCURE MY INABILITY TO CONTEXTUALIZE THE GAME WITH MY MEAGRE SPATIAL INTELLIGENCE. I WILL NOW INSULT YOU BY CALLING YOU AN IDIOT BECAUSE I AHVE NOTHING ELSE TO CONTRIBUTE TO THE DISCUSSION. DUR.
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that was a good way of showing that you're not an idiot. well done.
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Man have you watched Bogosian at all this season?
To be clear, big minute d-men on struggling teams who have no team defence are on for goals against. Guess I should go fill my lineup with bruins and canucks.
To be clear, big minute d-men on struggling teams who have no team defence are on for goals against. Guess I should go fill my lineup with bruins and canucks.
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I have.. I think he's excellentNick wroteCOLONMan have you watched Bogosian at all this season?
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So good, he's been on the ice for more goals than he's scored, sports one of the most ineffective PK% in the NHL, and offensively, completely unreliable.
Yup, he's been excellent.
Yup, he's been excellent.
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Agree with Scott he sucks a lot less than he did last year.Scott wroteCOLONI have.. I think he's excellentNick wroteCOLONMan have you watched Bogosian at all this season?
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Well your metrics show that Schenn is an "irreplaceable" defenceman, and he's already been passed on the depth charts by Keith Aulie...Chris wroteCOLONSo good, he's been on the ice for more goals than he's scored, sports one of the most ineffective PK% in the NHL, and offensively, completely unreliable.
Yup, he's been excellent.
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hey man, just wondering, could you please name me a player who's scored more goals than they've been on the ice for.Chris wroteCOLONSo good, he's been on the ice for more goals than he's scored, sports one of the most ineffective PK% in the NHL, and offensively, completely unreliable.
Yup, he's been excellent.
thanks dude.