WSH/EDM - No, it's not for Rinne

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Re: WSH/EDM - No, it's not for Rinne

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sgupca wroteCOLONI have two theories

1. You guys are either super pussies of Kareem's team now

2. You're blind to what Arian's team needs - this deal was killer for his team.


So, to make a long story short, i'm reading these comments and assuming you're pussies and dislike one of Arian and/or Kareem.
3. Pekka Rinne is the a Top 3 Goalie in this league and has the ability to Win 2/3 goalie categories a week on average with a SINGLE roster spot and should never be traded for another team's goalie system unless there are bigger adds.
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Didn't they just resign one of them, and Rinne, long term? That's pretty attractive incentive to join the team if players of those caliber will sign long term.

Nashville seems like a great destination to sign. Minimal media attentiion, actually being able to live a somewhat normal life on a good team. 7 mil on what may be a 70 mil cap next year for an elite goaltender?.. Where do I sign up from a Toronto perspective?

Markstrom is finally starting to play up to his billing, which is good because up until that point, he was all hype and no substance. PAP is decent, had him a couple of times. Prospects like Biggs and Holland are easily replaceable. Clem and Theo are having nice years, so are a lot of other goalies.

All of that doesn't equal up to an elite goaltender.
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Kezia wroteCOLONDidn't they just resign one of them, and Rinne, long term? That's pretty attractive incentive to join the team if players of those caliber will sign long term.

Nashville seems like a great destination to sign. Minimal media attentiion, actually being able to live a somewhat normal life on a good team. 7 mil on what may be a 70 mil cap next year for an elite goaltender?.. Where do I sign up from a Toronto perspective?

Markstrom is finally starting to play up to his billing, which is good because up until that point, he was all hype and no substance. PAP is decent, had him a couple of times. Prospects like Biggs and Holland are easily replaceable. Clem and Theo are having nice years, so are a lot of other goalies.

All of that doesn't equal up to an elite goaltender.
Any reason to believe the cap will be up to 70 mil next season? I've not heard any speculation.
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Baseless assumption on how it's gone the last couple of years.
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SuperMario wroteCOLON
sgupca wroteCOLONI have two theories

1. You guys are either super pussies of Kareem's team now

2. You're blind to what Arian's team needs - this deal was killer for his team.


So, to make a long story short, i'm reading these comments and assuming you're pussies and dislike one of Arian and/or Kareem.
3. Pekka Rinne is the a Top 3 Goalie in this league and has the ability to Win 2/3 goalie categories a week on average with a SINGLE roster spot and should never be traded for another team's goalie system unless there are bigger adds.
Top 3 goalie on a team that isn't competing, you guys fail to see the value this adds to a re-tooling team. You're all blinded by the fact it just made kareem that much stronger.

AKA the 'pussy factor'
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Kezia wroteCOLONDidn't they just resign one of them, and Rinne, long term? That's pretty attractive incentive to join the team if players of those caliber will sign long term.

Nashville seems like a great destination to sign. Minimal media attentiion, actually being able to live a somewhat normal life on a good team. 7 mil on what may be a 70 mil cap next year for an elite goaltender?.. Where do I sign up from a Toronto perspective?

Markstrom is finally starting to play up to his billing, which is good because up until that point, he was all hype and no substance. PAP is decent, had him a couple of times. Prospects like Biggs and Holland are easily replaceable. Clem and Theo are having nice years, so are a lot of other goalies.

All of that doesn't equal up to an elite goaltender.
Ryan Suter:
SEASON AHL SALARY NHL SALARY P. BONUSES S. BONUS CAP HIT
2008-09 $3,500,000 $3,500,000 $0 — $3,500,000
2009-10 $3,500,000 $3,500,000 $0 — $3,500,000
2010-11 $3,500,000 $3,500,000 $0 — $3,500,000
2011-12 $3,500,000 $3,500,000 $0 — $3,500,000

UFA Summer of 2012 - "no intentions of resigning"
Per cap geek and TSN


Shea Weber:
LENGTH: 1 YEAR(S) VALUE: $7,500,000 TYPE: STANDARD
SEASON AHL SALARY NHL SALARY P. BONUSES S. BONUS CAP HIT
2011-12 $7,500,000 $7,500,000 $0 $0 $7,500,000

UFA Summer of 2012 - "Nashville is a wasteland, I hate it here"
Per cap geek - quote by Steve Guptill


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Re: WSH/EDM - No, it's not for Rinne

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Man Steve. I think what you are missing is that the people who don't like this trade for Arian just think he could have gotten more. That's all.
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I mean, Arian receive some "value" in return.. but it creates more work for him to go out and use those pieces to land what he really should've been targeting. If I had Rinne and was moving him to downgrade big time in goal, I want more quality NHLers back. PAP is decent but nothing special and the prospects are medicore at best. It's ok value just not the desired return or one I was expecting when I noticed Rinne was available.
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PAP is actually doing really well... better pace than he had last year anyways
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SuperMario wroteCOLONMan Steve. I think what you are missing is that the people who don't like this trade for Arian just think he could have gotten more. That's all.
Lol, im not upset with this deal for anyone buddy, but i totally disagree, every other competing team has solid goalies, no one needed to invest this much outside of kareem.
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I guarantee both Suter and Weber sign long-term in Nashville.
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Shep wroteCOLONI guarantee both Suter and Weber sign long-term in Nashville.
Lets take this to the bet forum
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lol thanks steve but you don't have to defend me on this one
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yup, guys hate this deal for you because Kareem got stronger - and because guys dislike Kareem
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lols Steve gets so emotional
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sgupca wroteCOLONyup, guys hate this deal for you because Kareem got stronger - and because guys dislike Kareem
Kareem getting stronger means nothing to me lol.. but I don't "hate" this deal for Arian, I just would've wanted more quality
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Scott wroteCOLON
sgupca wroteCOLONyup, guys hate this deal for you because Kareem got stronger - and because guys dislike Kareem
Kareem getting stronger means nothing to me lol.. but I don't "hate" this deal for Arian, I just would've wanted more quality
i agree, i was looking for more quality but the people interested in rinne are obviously one's that want to win now (7mil cap hit) and nobody came with an offer of a stud player. Parenteau is underrated, he has 43 points right now. I still got pieces that are easily moveable.
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I would've made an offer but I like my goalies.
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