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Re: Who would you protect
PostedCOLON Wed Jun 08, 2016 9:42 am
by Bruyns
Maybe one of them gets traded this year in the NHL and I can work out a deal with that team. I never felt the need to worry about goalie prospects with 2 good young goalies I felt pretty safe. Also still no official rules but I'd imagine there will be some sort of rule about max goalies taken. If not then the expansion team would take a whole bunch of goalies and then trade them for a premium.
Re: Who would you protect
PostedCOLON Wed Jun 08, 2016 9:43 am
by Mike
I think in previous expansion drafts there was a mandated amount of goalies they had to select.
Re: Who would you protect
PostedCOLON Wed Jun 08, 2016 9:43 am
by thom54
haha a team of 30 goalies
Re: Who would you protect
PostedCOLON Wed Jun 08, 2016 9:43 am
by Sensfanjosh
I know Lee has also expressed an interest but just want to make it clear that I would also be interested in taking over an expansion team.
Re: Who would you protect
PostedCOLON Wed Jun 08, 2016 9:44 am
by thom54
Anderson --> CAR/CGY/COL (they need a legit goalie : p)
Re: Who would you protect
PostedCOLON Wed Jun 08, 2016 9:47 am
by Fraser
I think active Gms in our league should be given a chance at the expansion team(s) first and give up there own. Would be a lot of fun taking one of those over. I wouldnt go for it but yea maybe a lottery.
Re: Who would you protect
PostedCOLON Wed Jun 08, 2016 9:52 am
by Bruyns
Lottery is interesting, I was against giving it to a current GM since I couldn't think of any fair way and think GMs should keep their own teams. Lottery would probably be the way to go IF we considered letting a GM switch teams.
Re: Who would you protect
PostedCOLON Wed Jun 08, 2016 9:59 am
by Tony
Priority should be given to playoff teams since you bottom feeders ate just going to fuck it up anyway.
Re: Who would you protect
PostedCOLON Wed Jun 08, 2016 10:02 am
by Sensfanjosh
I'm not quitting if I need to keep Calgary or anything, just thought it would be fun to start over, no worries either way.
Re: Who would you protect
PostedCOLON Wed Jun 08, 2016 10:02 am
by Lee
Mike wroteCOLONFraser wroteCOLONLee wroteCOLONLee wroteCOLONwe shod implement a no trade rule from our trade deadline until the end of the expansion draft to prevent people selling off claimable assets after the season.
Nah fuck that it will create a more widespread redistribution of talent around the league rather than just allowing a few guys to get excessively burnt. Lower teams will still have the upper hand in negociations with the top dogs
Not that I necessarily agree with a no trade rule stretching that far back (but interesting to see Lee the one pioneering it, I can only imagine how boring you'll find the league for that span!) but I think it might have the opposite effect of what you propose. "top teams" will make a few trades to level out their 7:3:1 ratio, even between themselves, effectively limiting the talent ceiling available to the new entrant. Also there's a possibility of collusion between teams (agreements to trade players back after the draft) that would be limited by disallowing trades for a period of time.
Me making the suggestion shows how seriously it should be implemented.
Re: Who would you protect
PostedCOLON Wed Jun 08, 2016 10:07 am
by Lee
Honestly, I'd rather take over a team in trouble like New Jersey rather than do an expansion team.
Re: Who would you protect
PostedCOLON Wed Jun 08, 2016 10:24 am
by The BBKL Insider
Lee wroteCOLONHonestly, I'd rather take over a team in trouble like New Jersey rather than do an expansion team.
We should give the expansion team to paul. He'll be out of the league for over a year and able to return. It also means we can get our good players back that are claimed.
Re: Who would you protect
PostedCOLON Wed Jun 08, 2016 12:39 pm
by Matthew
The BBKL Insider wroteCOLONLee wroteCOLONHonestly, I'd rather take over a team in trouble like New Jersey rather than do an expansion team.
We should give the expansion team to paul. He'll be out of the league for over a year and able to return. It also means we can get our good players back that are claimed.
I laughed out loud.
Re: Who would you protect
PostedCOLON Wed Jun 08, 2016 1:25 pm
by Matthew
Also, Matt murray/fleury may be taken.
Re: Who would you protect
PostedCOLON Wed Jun 08, 2016 1:34 pm
by Matthew
Also, this expansion team won't be that good. If the market works properly, then the 30 best goalies will be protected, The 90 best defenceman will be protected, and the 210 best forwards will be protected. Just depends how willing teams are to trade their players that are in danger.
Re: Who would you protect
PostedCOLON Wed Jun 08, 2016 1:36 pm
by Mike
It probably won't work quite that way, our market won't be that efficient.
Say I have 12 of the 210 best forwards in the league, 3 of the top 90 defencemen, and 1 of the top 30 goalies. I'd rather keep 11 of the forwards and let one get away rather than trading 5 of them for future assets (maybe devalued because of the looming draft) just to avoid losing the value of one for free.
Re: Who would you protect
PostedCOLON Wed Jun 08, 2016 1:39 pm
by Matthew
True. We are in a league re-building, so star nhlers are all ready going for cheap. Will be interesting to see how expansion looking effects the value.
Re: Who would you protect
PostedCOLON Wed Jun 08, 2016 1:39 pm
by Bruyns
It will be pretty good, I don't see rebuilders parting with their premium picks and prospects to add players from contenders so there will be an uneven distribution of top players across the league. The other advantage BBKL Vegas has over NHL Vegas is there are players that are very good in this league that will be exposed that wouldn't be as valuable in the NHL. You can't have a successful NHL team built with no top players and 2nd-3rd liners and bottom 4 D but you can have a very good BBKL team built like that.
Re: Who would you protect
PostedCOLON Wed Jun 08, 2016 2:02 pm
by Tony
Bruyns wroteCOLONYou can't have a successful NHL team built with no top players and 2nd-3rd liners and bottom 4 D but you can have a very good BBKL team built like that.
Re: Who would you protect
PostedCOLON Wed Jun 08, 2016 5:22 pm
by Tony
Bruyns wroteCOLONIt actually says 7 + 3 in the article I posted in the first post. We were just talking 6 + 4 in CC and didn't even notice.
Just make it 10 total. 8 is stupid if we don't want 7+3.