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Re: Playoffs Week 1

PostedCOLON Wed Mar 08, 2017 8:29 pm
by hong57
Monk wroteCOLON
Matthew wroteCOLON
Monk wroteCOLONAwwww yeah! Bob with another shutout, when you have the best goalie in the league, you always have a chance. C'mon you Jets!!
Yes, I always have a chance. Not sure why my team is relevant to your match up tho.
Lol I knew somebody would pick up on that, ok maybe Bob is #2 behind Dubnyk, maybe.. but I know you had some very good weeks especially early on, but decided to go a different direction, just proves the point further though
i have the best goalie stat before playoffs :cry:

Re: Playoffs Week 1

PostedCOLON Wed Mar 08, 2017 8:36 pm
by Matthew
Just an update to those teams with a chance of missing skater gp:
(Ana, nyr, car)

Anaheim needs 230 more gp
New York needs 214 more gp
Carolina needs 226 more gp

Each NHL team has on avg 16.66 games remaining. We each have 18 skater roster spots. So on average each BBKL team should have a possible 300 skater games available to them. So each of these 3 teams need to make sure they dress players for approximately 3/4 of their possible skaters games.

Every team has reached gp minimum for goaltenders.

Re: Playoffs Week 1

PostedCOLON Wed Mar 08, 2017 8:41 pm
by hong57
Matthew wroteCOLONJust an update to those teams with a chance of missing skater gp:
(Ana, nyr, car)

Anaheim needs 230 more gp
New York needs 214 more gp
Carolina needs 226 more gp

Each NHL team has on avg 16.66 games remaining. We each have 18 skater roster spots. So on average each BBKL team should have a possible 300 skater games available to them. So each of these 3 teams need to make sure they dress players for approximately 3/4 of their possible skaters games.

Every team has reached gp minimum for goaltenders.
wow this is good news

Re: Playoffs Week 1

PostedCOLON Wed Mar 08, 2017 8:41 pm
by hong57
btw, nice new sig matthew

Re: Playoffs Week 1

PostedCOLON Wed Mar 08, 2017 8:42 pm
by Matthew
I don't have a sig?

Re: Playoffs Week 1

PostedCOLON Wed Mar 08, 2017 8:45 pm
by kyuss
Shoalzie wroteCOLON We all are at risk of having an important player of ours not stay healthy or not produce like we expect. If it was a guarantee...we'd just give the championship to the team with the best roster. That wouldn't be very fun.
yeah because without in-week injuries the better BBKL team just can not lose the one freaking week matchup against the lesser team, eh?

Re: Playoffs Week 1

PostedCOLON Wed Mar 08, 2017 11:00 pm
by Handsome&FairMike
It's not that mik it's more how the league developed over the years and gm's made some awersome teams for themselves while others didn't give a shit and made shitty teams. So to institute that now I think would be a negative to the league

Re: Playoffs Week 1

PostedCOLON Thu Mar 09, 2017 1:05 am
by Tony
Day 3:

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Re: Playoffs Week 1

PostedCOLON Thu Mar 09, 2017 5:08 am
by thom54
i love dion phaneuf

Re: Playoffs Week 1

PostedCOLON Thu Mar 09, 2017 8:49 am
by koomzzz
The only way I would support mid-week changes is if it was limited to one move, and there was a clear injury that will extend beyond the next game, i know sometimes that information isn't easy to come by with how NHL teams are with their injuries, but it would have to be regulated consistently and is there a way for FT to score stats of a certain player for monday thru wednesday and then a different player for thursday thru sunday with weekly locks? I'm sure there is but anyway.

Obviously any rule changes this many years into a league is going to benefit some teams over others, that's the nature of the beast. there's no problem in making rule changes that increase the value of the league as a whole, rather than having 1-2 teams running the show making changes to benefit themselves.

Speaking from personal experience this week alone, NSH lost Turris. He'd be able to replace him with a C or a W since he's dressing 5 C. That allows a switch with Karlsson, Aho, Bjorkstrand, Buchnevich, Cehlarik, Compher, Hemsky, Jaskin, Larkin, Lehkonen. Assuming the cap works if they're in the minors. But those are all the inactive forwards NSH has that have GP this week already. Conversely, I have Radulov that missed Tuesday's game, didn't practice yesterday. I have no one to replace him with if I had the opportunity. So of course I would oppose the change as it wouldn't benefit me right now. BUT this doesn't mean I'd reject the idea in the future, I don't see an issue with allowing the change to be made but only if there is evidence games will be missed.

I also like the idea of allowing roster changes to week 2 of the finals, it actually makes a lot of sense, we have weekly roster locks, the finals should be no different, the exception being we total both weeks of course.

Re: Playoffs Week 1

PostedCOLON Thu Mar 09, 2017 8:53 am
by thom54
Initially
My reaction is to reject this idea. It encourages more hoarding of players, while we are trying to achieve greater parody. I'm ambivalent about the 2 week finals proposal,

Re: Playoffs Week 1

PostedCOLON Thu Mar 09, 2017 9:36 am
by kyuss
koomzzz wroteCOLONThe only way I would support mid-week changes is if it was limited to one move, and there was a clear injury that will extend beyond the next game, i know sometimes that information isn't easy to come by with how NHL teams are with their injuries, but it would have to be regulated consistently and is there a way for FT to score stats of a certain player for monday thru wednesday and then a different player for thursday thru sunday with weekly locks? I'm sure there is but anyway.

Obviously any rule changes this many years into a league is going to benefit some teams over others, that's the nature of the beast. there's no problem in making rule changes that increase the value of the league as a whole, rather than having 1-2 teams running the show making changes to benefit themselves.

Speaking from personal experience this week alone, NSH lost Turris. He'd be able to replace him with a C or a W since he's dressing 5 C. That allows a switch with Karlsson, Aho, Bjorkstrand, Buchnevich, Cehlarik, Compher, Hemsky, Jaskin, Larkin, Lehkonen. Assuming the cap works if they're in the minors. But those are all the inactive forwards NSH has that have GP this week already. Conversely, I have Radulov that missed Tuesday's game, didn't practice yesterday. I have no one to replace him with if I had the opportunity. So of course I would oppose the change as it wouldn't benefit me right now. BUT this doesn't mean I'd reject the idea in the future, I don't see an issue with allowing the change to be made but only if there is evidence games will be missed.

I also like the idea of allowing roster changes to week 2 of the finals, it actually makes a lot of sense, we have weekly roster locks, the finals should be no different, the exception being we total both weeks of course.
since you went into it, here (through the end of that page) http://bbkl.ca/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=1220 ... 20#p213068 is the latest discussion we had on the subject 2 yrs ago, as a result of the request brought up by BOS GM (former CC chief who always advocated for that in the earlier BBKL yrs, but on CSB there was no practical way to implement the use of in-week injury callups. There is that possibility on Fantrax instead).

I wouldn't be on board with it either if it wasn't to be 'regulated consistently', but obviously it would if we ever happen to implement something like that.

As for Radulov, if it makes you feel better Hornqvist went AWOL for me.. sat out Pens 7-4 Win tonight

Re: Playoffs Week 1

PostedCOLON Thu Mar 09, 2017 9:57 am
by Sensfanjosh
Appleby recalled by the Devils, injury to Kinkaid or Schneider :?

Re: Playoffs Week 1

PostedCOLON Thu Mar 09, 2017 10:00 am
by foofnik
kyuss wroteCOLON
koomzzz wroteCOLONHornqvist went AWOL for me.. sat out Pens 7-4 Win tonight
concussion

Re: Playoffs Week 1

PostedCOLON Thu Mar 09, 2017 10:01 am
by foofnik
Sensfanjosh wroteCOLONAppleby recalled by the Devils, injury to Kinkaid or Schneider :?
fuck my life

Re: Playoffs Week 1

PostedCOLON Thu Mar 09, 2017 10:07 am
by koomzzz
kyuss wroteCOLON since you went into it, here (through the end of that page) http://bbkl.ca/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=1220 ... 20#p213068 is the latest discussion we had on the subject 2 yrs ago, as a result of the request brought up by BOS GM (former CC chief who always advocated for that in the earlier BBKL yrs, but on CSB there was no practical way to implement the use of in-week injury callups. There is that possibility on Fantrax instead).

I wouldn't be on board with it either if it wasn't to be 'regulated consistently', but obviously it would if we ever happen to implement something like that.

As for Radulov, if it makes you feel better Hornqvist went AWOL for me.. sat out Pens 7-4 Win tonight
it's good to see older discussion on this actually.

naturally it would be up to FT commishes to make the changes in FT for the teams requiring the changes.

One thing from those posts that I liked was naming replacements prior to the weeks, assuming they're available. If a team makes their roster submission post, they can designate 2 F, 1 D and 1 G (maybe?) as replacements for the week, and if an active player gets injured midweek then they get can get replaced by one of the named replacements. I'd be on board with that in the playoffs only, and full roster adjustments for week 2 of the finals, with replacements named for both weeks 1 and 2.

lastly i don't find pleasure in seeing anyone miss GP against me in the playoffs, it helps my chances, but doesn't quite give the same satisfaction if i were to win, i'd rather you get all 70 GP in the week

Re: Playoffs Week 1

PostedCOLON Thu Mar 09, 2017 11:56 am
by kyuss
koomzzz wroteCOLON
kyuss wroteCOLON since you went into it, here (through the end of that page) http://bbkl.ca/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=1220 ... 20#p213068 is the latest discussion we had on the subject 2 yrs ago, as a result of the request brought up by BOS GM (former CC chief who always advocated for that in the earlier BBKL yrs, but on CSB there was no practical way to implement the use of in-week injury callups. There is that possibility on Fantrax instead).

I wouldn't be on board with it either if it wasn't to be 'regulated consistently', but obviously it would if we ever happen to implement something like that.

As for Radulov, if it makes you feel better Hornqvist went AWOL for me.. sat out Pens 7-4 Win tonight
it's good to see older discussion on this actually.

naturally it would be up to FT commishes to make the changes in FT for the teams requiring the changes.

One thing from those posts that I liked was naming replacements prior to the weeks
would be a non-starter otherwise (as it may actually give an advantage out of the injury)
If a team makes their roster submission post, they can designate 2 F, 1 D and 1 G (maybe?)
I think it would be absolutely right to have the chance to name more than 1 replacement for Fs & Ds, as bad luck can mean several injuries at the same position, but one thing for sure, they'd need to be ordered, i.e. GM would have to establish at the time of roster submission who would be the first recall, and so on. They can't have the option to choose the callup depending on how the matchup is going.

Another interesting option brought up in that discussion was dropping the bench cap hit for playoffs. Would mean resembling more closely what happens in the NHL cap-wise and would also add to BBKL some sort of 'rental' concept, which is otherwise missing from BBKL while being the main character at the NHL deadline:
a BBKL team would be encouraged to pay at our deadline to add a player even if it can't afford him under the cap in regular season. Hence some high salary players would have a market at the deadline, and rebuilders could get assets out of those unlike now. At the same time, before next season roster submission the contender will probably have to move again that high salary player, making him a bit like a rental and somehow increasing trades activity over the off season.
I'd be on board with that in the playoffs only
as mentioned already, we never considered adding that option for the RS.

Re: Playoffs Week 1

PostedCOLON Thu Mar 09, 2017 12:05 pm
by Sensfanjosh
thom54 wroteCOLONInitially
My reaction is to reject this idea. It encourages more hoarding of players, while we are trying to achieve greater parody. I'm ambivalent about the 2 week finals proposal,
The only parody in the league is your roster management. As far as parity I do think that this is a league goal, however waiver prevents the hoarding of players as is, and honestly if guys want to have more NHLers maybe they should learn to draft well and value NHL players beyond the stars, its not hard to acquire depth in this league if you value it, just most GMs are too timid to make moves and would rather hold onto a 5th round pick than trade for a 4th line NHLer.

Re: Playoffs Week 1

PostedCOLON Thu Mar 09, 2017 12:23 pm
by Handsome&FairMike
haha and we wonder how this fella got an MD beside his name... parody enough.

Re: Playoffs Week 1

PostedCOLON Thu Mar 09, 2017 2:51 pm
by thom54
Fuck me...