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Re: 2011 BBKL Waiver draft discussion

PostedCOLON Thu Sep 22, 2011 10:13 am
by Shoalzie
kyuss wroteCOLON
Shoalzie wroteCOLON It's almost a way to keep teams from hoarding talent without consequence.
and why the hell should a team be punished for loading talent?

might as well do this a 30 men roster league then.. which i would have never joined in the first place!


I didn't say protect only 30...that's extreme. However, there are a lot of guys that would be exempt from the draft if we were dealing with the NHL waiver draft rules.

If we have rosters getting up towards 70...I'd say protect 55-60. I'm not talking about leaving star players/prospects exposed. I'm basically suggesting we just expose a list of players and we don't necessarily need to drop them outright.

Re: 2011 BBKL Waiver draft discussion

PostedCOLON Thu Sep 22, 2011 10:14 am
by Shoalzie
Luke is on the clock by the way...Lee still hasn't updated the spreadsheet.

Re: 2011 BBKL Waiver draft discussion

PostedCOLON Thu Sep 22, 2011 10:21 am
by Lee
Because no one posts in the thread. I'm not combing through every single trade looking for picks. You're more than welcome to help out with the editing.

Re: 2011 BBKL Waiver draft discussion

PostedCOLON Thu Sep 22, 2011 10:21 am
by kyuss
Shoalzie wroteCOLON
kyuss wroteCOLON
Shoalzie wroteCOLON It's almost a way to keep teams from hoarding talent without consequence.
and why the hell should a team be punished for loading talent?

might as well do this a 30 men roster league then.. which i would have never joined in the first place!


I didn't say protect only 30...that's extreme.

If we have rosters getting up towards 70...I'd say protect 55-60. We're not talking about leaving star players exposed.
with the way we built our league it doesn't make sense anyway.

what would be the point in using all our draft picks if when you get too many decent players you're gonna lose some of them anyway..

Knowing something like this would happen, one would have built a short Shiv-like team..

Re: 2011 BBKL Waiver draft discussion

PostedCOLON Thu Sep 22, 2011 10:22 am
by kimmer
I will help but no mod power!

Re: 2011 BBKL Waiver draft discussion

PostedCOLON Thu Sep 22, 2011 10:30 am
by Mike
kyuss wroteCOLON
Shoalzie wroteCOLON
kyuss wroteCOLON
Shoalzie wroteCOLON It's almost a way to keep teams from hoarding talent without consequence.
and why the hell should a team be punished for loading talent?

might as well do this a 30 men roster league then.. which i would have never joined in the first place!


I didn't say protect only 30...that's extreme.

If we have rosters getting up towards 70...I'd say protect 55-60. We're not talking about leaving star players exposed.
with the way we built our league it doesn't make sense anyway.

what would be the point in using all our draft picks if when you get too many decent players you're gonna lose some of them anyway..

Knowing something like this would happen, one would have built a short Shiv-like team..
Yeah, it would inflate the hell out of entry draft picks, too. I'd profit, both from having a small team (34 players) and a lot of picks.

Re: 2011 BBKL Waiver draft discussion

PostedCOLON Thu Sep 22, 2011 10:37 am
by Shoalzie
If you go by the NHL waiver draft format...prospects and rookies are protected. It would make more veteran players available but we'd also be able to draft college and European free agents.

Look, I'm not in the CC anymore...I'm just trying throw out some ideas. I don't have any pull with making decisions. If you don't like the idea, I'm fine with that. I wouldn't want to see the waiver draft die a slow death before we explore other options.

Re: 2011 BBKL Waiver draft discussion

PostedCOLON Thu Sep 22, 2011 10:52 am
by kyuss
Shoalzie wroteCOLONIf you go by the NHL waiver draft format...prospects and rookies are protected. It would make more veteran players available but we'd also be able to draft college and European free agents.

Look, I'm not in the CC anymore...I'm just trying throw out some ideas. I don't have any pull with making decisions. If you don't like the idea, I'm fine with that. I wouldn't want to see the waiver draft die a slow death before we explore other options.
oh, for that matter, i would be AGAINST taking away the Waiver draft as well.

Re: 2011 BBKL Waiver draft discussion

PostedCOLON Thu Sep 22, 2011 11:12 am
by bills09
I am for the waiver draft.. but I have always said we should limit it to 2 rounds.

Re: 2011 BBKL Waiver draft discussion

PostedCOLON Thu Sep 22, 2011 11:17 am
by Shep
2 Rounds of the waiver draft should be more than enough IMO.

Re: 2011 BBKL Waiver draft discussion

PostedCOLON Thu Sep 22, 2011 11:18 am
by Scott
fuck, it should be only 1 round..

Re: 2011 BBKL Waiver draft discussion

PostedCOLON Thu Sep 22, 2011 3:54 pm
by Nick
For the GMs that are loaded enough, full, stupid, or lazy just pass on your selections. Not hard to find 3 players potentially worth having on your roster. Also when we stop people from FA claiming earlier this year, next years waiver draft will be more interesting.


We have some nice deep rosters Kyuss, and that topic is beat to death; I've see you tell other people to move on from a finished discussion, please do the same. We have a stepped plan in place leading to a VERY high cap of total players.

Re: 2011 BBKL Waiver draft discussion

PostedCOLON Thu Sep 22, 2011 4:02 pm
by Shoalzie
Kezia wroteCOLONBecause no one posts in the thread. I'm not combing through every single trade looking for picks. You're more than welcome to help out with the editing.

Apologies...

Re: 2011 BBKL Waiver draft discussion

PostedCOLON Thu Sep 22, 2011 4:07 pm
by bills09
Nick wroteCOLONFor the GMs that are loaded enough, full, stupid, or lazy just pass on your selections. Not hard to find 3 players potentially worth having on your roster. Also when we stop people from FA claiming earlier this year, next years waiver draft will be more interesting.


We have some nice deep rosters Kyuss, and that topic is beat to death; I've see you tell other people to move on from a finished discussion, please do the same. We have a stepped plan in place leading to a VERY high cap of total players.
what time of year are we stopping FA claiming....

Re: 2011 BBKL Waiver draft discussion

PostedCOLON Thu Sep 22, 2011 4:08 pm
by Nick
Ugghh... I'd have to look it up, IIRC Jan 1st players onwards are held for the next waiver draft.

Re: 2011 BBKL Waiver draft discussion

PostedCOLON Thu Sep 22, 2011 4:14 pm
by bills09
thats not too bad.
I do enjoy scouring for waiver claims.
usually get a couple decent ones a year.

Re: 2011 BBKL Waiver draft discussion

PostedCOLON Thu Sep 22, 2011 4:16 pm
by Nick
Yep, and so you should be rewarded, but I think you agree, we also need to be aware of holding value for the waiver draft. I

Re: 2011 BBKL Waiver draft discussion

PostedCOLON Thu Sep 22, 2011 4:17 pm
by Mike
bills09 wroteCOLONthats not too bad.
I do enjoy scouring for waiver claims.
usually get a couple decent ones a year.
Yeah it's a lot of fun. I've had a few nice ones... Parse and Konopka come to mind.

Re: 2011 BBKL Waiver draft discussion

PostedCOLON Thu Sep 22, 2011 4:19 pm
by kyuss
Nick wroteCOLON We have some nice deep rosters Kyuss, and that topic is beat to death; I've see you tell other people to move on from a finished discussion, please do the same.
someone did bring it up.. i guess i should have replied with "please move on from a finished discussion" instead :)

Re: 2011 BBKL Waiver draft discussion

PostedCOLON Thu Sep 22, 2011 4:19 pm
by Shep
Nick wroteCOLONFor the GMs that are loaded enough, full, stupid, or lazy just pass on your selections. Not hard to find 3 players potentially worth having on your roster.
It's more fun this way.