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Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Wed Jun 24, 2015 6:09 am
by The BBKL Insider
He's worth about 800k. He's a product of his line mates

Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Wed Jun 24, 2015 6:16 am
by kyuss
yeah I wouldn't go much above 1M one-way.

He will get at least 4M I guess :lol:

Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Wed Jun 24, 2015 7:10 am
by Fraser
Beleskey is an elite 4th liner. If he gets brought in to be a top 6 guy the team will be very disappointed.

Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Wed Jun 24, 2015 7:24 am
by The BBKL Insider
Fraser wroteCOLONBeleskey is an elite 4th liner. If he gets brought in to be a top 6 guy the team will be very disappointed.
is there some type of rumour his rights are about to get traded or he's about to sign? why all the talk over him. He really sucks.

Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Wed Jun 24, 2015 7:40 am
by Shoalzie
He should be a bottom 6 forward and for the sake of the free agent market, he's paid like it. Could he get a Bickell contract?

Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Wed Jun 24, 2015 7:41 am
by Fraser
Shoalzie wroteCOLONHe should be a bottom 6 forward and for the sake of the free agent market, he's paid like it. Could he get a Bickell contract?
I would be surprised if he doesn't

Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Wed Jun 24, 2015 7:52 am
by Arian The Insider
kyuss wroteCOLONlooks like Beleskey will be this year Clarkson
yep, i've been thinking the same thing for a while

Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Wed Jun 24, 2015 7:53 am
by kyuss
Shoalzie wroteCOLONCould he get a Bickell contract?
ya, the new Bickell is probably going to be a more fitting label than the new Clarkson

Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Wed Jun 24, 2015 8:37 am
by Bruyns
Beleskey apparently turned down 4x4 from the Ducks and is looking for 5. Terrible possession numbers and a very inflated s% this year, someone will regret signing him, but if the cap keeps going up and he signs with a team that isn't at the cap then the team will be able to afford his bad contract.

Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Wed Jun 24, 2015 8:41 am
by The BBKL Insider
Bruyns wroteCOLONBeleskey apparently turned down 4x4 from the Ducks and is looking for 5. Terrible possession numbers and a very inflated s% this year, someone will regret signing him, but if the cap keeps going up and he signs with a team that isn't at the cap then the team will be able to afford his bad contract.
he's not even worth 4mil per. Man, some agents really instint greed into the minds of the players.

Incredible

Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Wed Jun 24, 2015 8:46 am
by Shoalzie
I'm not in support of collusion but I hope the teams with money to spend aren't crazy and give him $5+ million. $16 million for 4 years seemed more than reasonable.

Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Wed Jun 24, 2015 9:14 am
by Handsome&FairMike
The BBKL Insider wroteCOLON
Bruyns wroteCOLONBeleskey apparently turned down 4x4 from the Ducks and is looking for 5. Terrible possession numbers and a very inflated s% this year, someone will regret signing him, but if the cap keeps going up and he signs with a team that isn't at the cap then the team will be able to afford his bad contract.
he's not even worth 4mil per. Man, some agents really instint greed into the minds of the players.

Incredible
Can't blame the players though, unless they want to take the hometown discount - they pay upwards of 50% income tax + another 15% in escrow [**state/province dependent**]... need to take as much as you can whenever you can get it for the mid-level players. I think we'd all be doing the same 100%.

Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Wed Jun 24, 2015 9:18 am
by Bruyns
Yep, if a GM is dumb enough to overpay then good on Beleskey for cashing in. I agree he isn't worth it and it's pretty greedy, but I don't have any problems with players being greedy unless it's a Leaf haha.

Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Wed Jun 24, 2015 9:19 am
by The BBKL Insider
Handsome&FairMike wroteCOLON
The BBKL Insider wroteCOLON
Bruyns wroteCOLONBeleskey apparently turned down 4x4 from the Ducks and is looking for 5. Terrible possession numbers and a very inflated s% this year, someone will regret signing him, but if the cap keeps going up and he signs with a team that isn't at the cap then the team will be able to afford his bad contract.
he's not even worth 4mil per. Man, some agents really instint greed into the minds of the players.

Incredible
Can't blame the players though, unless they want to take the hometown discount - they pay upwards of 50% income tax + another 15% in escrow [**state/province dependent**]... need to take as much as you can whenever you can get it for the mid-level players. I think we'd all be doing the same 100%.
i'd want to win, so for me 4mil per year playing with Getz/Perry >>>> 5mil a year playing with ?? on Arizona/Toronto/Insert crap team.

Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Wed Jun 24, 2015 9:19 am
by Sensfanjosh
Handsome&FairMike wroteCOLON
The BBKL Insider wroteCOLON
Bruyns wroteCOLONBeleskey apparently turned down 4x4 from the Ducks and is looking for 5. Terrible possession numbers and a very inflated s% this year, someone will regret signing him, but if the cap keeps going up and he signs with a team that isn't at the cap then the team will be able to afford his bad contract.
he's not even worth 4mil per. Man, some agents really instint greed into the minds of the players.

Incredible
Can't blame the players though, unless they want to take the hometown discount - they pay upwards of 50% income tax + another 15% in escrow [**state/province dependent**]... need to take as much as you can whenever you can get it for the mid-level players. I think we'd all be doing the same 100%.
I tend to agree with this too, never know when an injury hits either and suddenly you're an uneducated 30 year old with no job experience etc etc with fairly limited options if you haven't been smart with your money either. The player's association is also largely behind the contract talks too, not good for the union for guys to take small increases in pay, gotta shoot for the moon.

Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Wed Jun 24, 2015 9:21 am
by kyuss
Bruyns wroteCOLONBeleskey apparently turned down 4x4 from the Ducks and is looking for 5.
lol.. looks like the Ducks got lucky

Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Wed Jun 24, 2015 9:23 am
by Handsome&FairMike
The BBKL Insider wroteCOLON
Handsome&FairMike wroteCOLON
The BBKL Insider wroteCOLON
Bruyns wroteCOLONBeleskey apparently turned down 4x4 from the Ducks and is looking for 5. Terrible possession numbers and a very inflated s% this year, someone will regret signing him, but if the cap keeps going up and he signs with a team that isn't at the cap then the team will be able to afford his bad contract.
he's not even worth 4mil per. Man, some agents really instint greed into the minds of the players.

Incredible
Can't blame the players though, unless they want to take the hometown discount - they pay upwards of 50% income tax + another 15% in escrow [**state/province dependent**]... need to take as much as you can whenever you can get it for the mid-level players. I think we'd all be doing the same 100%.
i'd want to win, so for me 4mil per year playing with Getz/Perry >>>> 5mil a year playing with ?? on Arizona/Toronto/Insert crap team.
Ya that's true too.

Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Wed Jun 24, 2015 9:24 am
by The BBKL Insider
some guys can build successful careers playing on good teams with better players. Once that player hits UFA and signs elsewhere their true colours come out. We've seen it happen all too often in Toronto.

Jason Blake
David Clarkson

to name a few.

Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Wed Jun 24, 2015 9:32 am
by thom54
Belesky to Sharks T4 lol

Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Wed Jun 24, 2015 11:06 am
by Arian The Insider
Sensfanjosh wroteCOLON
Handsome&FairMike wroteCOLON
The BBKL Insider wroteCOLON
Bruyns wroteCOLONBeleskey apparently turned down 4x4 from the Ducks and is looking for 5. Terrible possession numbers and a very inflated s% this year, someone will regret signing him, but if the cap keeps going up and he signs with a team that isn't at the cap then the team will be able to afford his bad contract.
he's not even worth 4mil per. Man, some agents really instint greed into the minds of the players.

Incredible
Can't blame the players though, unless they want to take the hometown discount - they pay upwards of 50% income tax + another 15% in escrow [**state/province dependent**]... need to take as much as you can whenever you can get it for the mid-level players. I think we'd all be doing the same 100%.
I tend to agree with this too, never know when an injury hits either and suddenly you're an uneducated 30 year old with no job experience etc etc with fairly limited options if you haven't been smart with your money either. The player's association is also largely behind the contract talks too, not good for the union for guys to take small increases in pay, gotta shoot for the moon.
exactly. no guarantee of income after each contract is up. they have to look out for the future of their families. i blame the idiot GMs who give into the contract demands and agree to them.