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Re: [WAIVERS] Place claims Here - McGrattan on waivers
PostedCOLON Sat Nov 27, 2010 3:27 pm
by Scott
NJD claims free agent D Brian Fahey
Re: [WAIVERS] Place claims Here - McGrattan on waivers
PostedCOLON Mon Nov 29, 2010 1:53 am
by Scott
NJD signs free agent LW David Meckler; assigned to Albany (waiver exempt)
Re: [WAIVERS] Place claims Here
PostedCOLON Mon Nov 29, 2010 5:59 pm
by Lee
Cancel this claim as it's not allowed.
Re: [WAIVERS] Place claims Here
PostedCOLON Tue Nov 30, 2010 10:56 am
by Florida Chris
Florida claims Chris Porter and assigns him to the minors (waiver exempt)
Re: [WAIVERS] Place claims Here
PostedCOLON Tue Nov 30, 2010 5:20 pm
by fedro91
Dallas place a claim Jeff Finger
Re: [WAIVERS] Place claims Here
PostedCOLON Wed Dec 01, 2010 8:51 am
by armandtanzarian
Boston would like to sign FA forward, Jeremy Colliton. He is waiver exempt and will be assigned to the minors.
Re: [WAIVERS] Place claims Here - Finger on waivers
PostedCOLON Wed Dec 01, 2010 2:41 pm
by MSP4LYFE
NVM
Re: [WAIVERS] Place claims Here - Finger on waivers
PostedCOLON Wed Dec 01, 2010 3:20 pm
by Lee
Philadelphia claims free agent Oliver Gabriel
Re: [WAIVERS] Place claims Here - Finger on waivers
PostedCOLON Wed Dec 01, 2010 8:46 pm
by Nick
Kezia wroteCOLONPhiladelphia claims free agent Oliver Gabriel
Not allowed, the window for claiming un-drafted, but still draft eligible players has closed. As typical for the BBKL, we mimic the NHL in this situation, and the window for signing un-drafted players is rather short. He is 2011 eligible here in the BBKL.
Re: [WAIVERS] Place claims Here - Finger on waivers
PostedCOLON Wed Dec 01, 2010 9:05 pm
by Lee
facey wroteCOLONKezia wroteCOLONPhiladelphia claims free agent Oliver Gabriel
Not allowed, the window for claiming un-drafted, but still draft eligible players has closed. As typical for the BBKL, we mimic the NHL in this situation, and the window for signing un-drafted players is rather short. He is 2011 eligible here in the BBKL.
Can we have the rules laid out in the CBA? I was told earlier that they merely had to be signed.
Re: [WAIVERS] Place claims Here - Finger on waivers
PostedCOLON Wed Dec 01, 2010 9:09 pm
by Nick
Na. There was a window where he could be signed before the regular season started (there is a date discussed somewhere), however that time has come and gone -> 2011 draft eligible now.
Re: [WAIVERS] Place claims Here - Finger on waivers
PostedCOLON Wed Dec 01, 2010 9:14 pm
by Lee
Some kind of consistency would be nice.
I can't claim Mac Carruth because he was dropped in this league after being drafted, he must go back into the draft.
I can't claim Oliver Gabriel because he signed in real life ... but was told that he wasn't signed/drafted in the BBKL
That doesn't make sense. Like I told you on MSN. Half the time we follow the NHL rules, half the time we make up our own and none of it is documented
Re: [WAIVERS] Place claims Here - Finger on waivers
PostedCOLON Wed Dec 01, 2010 9:15 pm
by Nick
Both of those rulings are consistent with real NHL rules, because you don't understand doesn't mean your right to criticize.
Released players that are draft eligible go back into the draft.
Un-drafted players who didn't sign during that very brief signing window go back into the draft pool.
100% consistent with real NHL.
Re: [WAIVERS] Place claims Here - Finger on waivers
PostedCOLON Wed Dec 01, 2010 9:17 pm
by Lee
How is it consistent in the NHL? Gabriel was signed in the real NHL. How is he going to be drafted?
Re: [WAIVERS] Place claims Here - Finger on waivers
PostedCOLON Wed Dec 01, 2010 9:54 pm
by Nick
Kezia wroteCOLONHow is it consistent in the NHL? Gabriel was signed in the real NHL. How is he going to be drafted?
He wasn't claimed during that same window here in the BBKL (just like certain drafted players were drafted in the NHL were not drafted in the BBKL), so as per his [their] age -> back into our entry draft.
Re: [WAIVERS] Place claims Here - Finger on waivers
PostedCOLON Thu Dec 02, 2010 1:23 am
by Shep
Doesn't an un-drafted player, that is still draft eligible, but is now signed, go into our waiver draft?
Re: [WAIVERS] Place claims Here - Finger on waivers
PostedCOLON Thu Dec 02, 2010 1:37 am
by Nick
Snipeshow wroteCOLONDoesn't an un-drafted player, that is still draft eligible, but is now signed, go into our waiver draft?
Not if he's still entry draft eligible.
Re: [WAIVERS] Place claims Here - Finger on waivers
PostedCOLON Thu Dec 02, 2010 1:39 am
by Shep
facey wroteCOLONSnipeshow wroteCOLONDoesn't an un-drafted player, that is still draft eligible, but is now signed, go into our waiver draft?
Not if he's still entry draft eligible.
But he has a contract. That's retarded.
Re: [WAIVERS] Place claims Here - Finger on waivers
PostedCOLON Thu Dec 02, 2010 1:45 am
by Nick
Snipeshow wroteCOLONfacey wroteCOLONSnipeshow wroteCOLONDoesn't an un-drafted player, that is still draft eligible, but is now signed, go into our waiver draft?
Not if he's still entry draft eligible.
But he has a contract. That's retarded.
Perhaps that's worthy of a discussion... my understanding was that entry draft eligibility takes precedence over waiver draft, however the situation does raise questions, as we cannot allow signings of un-drafted BBKL players who are still draft eligible.... and its very much a hindsight adjustment to allow signings of NHL signed un-drafted, unsigned BBKL players. Perhaps holding for waiver draft is more appropriate then holding for entry draft...
Re: [WAIVERS] Place claims Here - Finger on waivers
PostedCOLON Thu Dec 02, 2010 2:34 am
by inferno31
facey wroteCOLONSnipeshow wroteCOLONfacey wroteCOLONSnipeshow wroteCOLONDoesn't an un-drafted player, that is still draft eligible, but is now signed, go into our waiver draft?
Not if he's still entry draft eligible.
But he has a contract. That's retarded.
Perhaps that's worthy of a discussion... my understanding was that entry draft eligibility takes precedence over waiver draft, however the situation does raise questions, as we cannot allow signings of un-drafted BBKL players who are still draft eligible.... and its very much a hindsight adjustment to allow signings of NHL signed un-drafted, unsigned BBKL players. Perhaps holding for waiver draft is more appropriate then holding for entry draft...
Your analysis I think of the situation is correct.
If a player is signed by an NHL team during the brief summer window but not signed in our league he should be eligible for our entry draft. Think about it from the NHL perspective, if a player was not signed in that time (as they weren't in our league) you can't offer them a contract later (ala claiming him off waivers). Its worth a discussion if you want to deviate from this and make that person waiver draft eligible (still not eligible for day to day waivers), and treat them like a college FA. But that would be us deviating from NHL rules not the other way around.
We are following NHL rules, no team would be able to claim that player at this time in the season.