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Re: Scoring change

PostedCOLON Sat Aug 09, 2014 7:38 am
by Shoalzie
I'd leave the categories we have alone.

Giveaways and takeaways would be interesting to add...maybe just use the giveaway/takeaway ratio. It's a counting stat but the up and down from game-to-game would be fun to follow.

I don't think you'd want to add shootout numbers but those do matter in the real game.

Re: Scoring change

PostedCOLON Sat Aug 09, 2014 10:08 am
by The BBKL Insider
Takeaways and giveaways would be an excellent category

Re: Scoring change

PostedCOLON Sat Aug 09, 2014 2:20 pm
by kimmer
Hi Hong honey

Re: Scoring change

PostedCOLON Sat Aug 09, 2014 4:04 pm
by Tony
Lee wroteCOLONFuck it do them all
Here here!

Re: Scoring change

PostedCOLON Sun Aug 10, 2014 4:42 am
by kyuss
Shoalzie wroteCOLONAdd the stat but don't remove PIM.
This would be awful

Re: Scoring change

PostedCOLON Sun Aug 10, 2014 8:42 am
by bills09
kyuss wroteCOLON
Shoalzie wroteCOLONAdd the stat but don't remove PIM.
This would be awful
Agreed

Re: Scoring change

PostedCOLON Sun Aug 10, 2014 9:23 am
by Shoalzie
Let's say you add one more category like giveaway/takeaway ratio...it would be a 6th periph/specialty/defense category but you'd still have 7 offensive categories. +/- could be considered either offense or defense.

Offensive Categories:
A
GWG
G
+/-
Pt
SOG
STP

Periph/Defensive Categories:
Blk
FOW
Hit
PIM
TOI-SH
(Giveaway/Takeaway Ratio)

Goaltending Categories:
SHO
W
GAA
SV%

Re: Scoring change

PostedCOLON Sun Aug 10, 2014 10:52 am
by bills09
I'd rather have giveaway takeaway than +-

Re: Scoring change

PostedCOLON Sun Aug 10, 2014 11:36 am
by Tony
An odd number of categories would be nice

Re: Scoring change

PostedCOLON Sun Aug 10, 2014 1:12 pm
by Shoalzie
Tony wroteCOLONAn odd number of categories would be nice

I think it would reduce the number of matchup ties but you could still have 8-8-1 with 17 categories.

Any idea of what category has produced the most ties? I've got imagine it's shutouts.

Re: Scoring change

PostedCOLON Sun Aug 17, 2014 10:36 pm
by LeanMachine
I like PIMs. Some PIMs help save goals while other PIMs are no so good. Hard to say all PIMS are bad. An extra stat for fighting majors would be cool

TK and GV seem interesting.

CORSI and FENWICK would be interesting also

Re: Scoring change

PostedCOLON Mon Aug 18, 2014 12:21 am
by Fraser
I could also get behind a giveaway/takeaway ratio stat being added. And when it comes to PIMS and fighting majors I would say you have to go one or the other not both, would give too much weight to pure goonery. Don't have a strong opinion on which category to go with either way.

Re: Scoring change

PostedCOLON Mon Aug 18, 2014 12:42 am
by bills09
Fraser wroteCOLONI could also get behind a giveaway/takeaway ratio stat being added. And when it comes to PIMS and fighting majors I would say you have to go one or the other not both, would give too much weight to pure goonery. Don't have a strong opinion on which category to go with either way.
Agreed on the side of one or the other but not both but I personally am on the side of fights

Re: Scoring change

PostedCOLON Mon Aug 18, 2014 2:32 pm
by kyuss
The problem with TA/GA is give away are a relevant stat if counted only in the defensive zone. I can't check the stats here, but i suspect the overall GA stat only penalizes the best players, those with the skills to try to create something offensively.

Another problem adding any stat for skaters is our current number of stats for goalies (and their weight) becomes too small

Re: Scoring change

PostedCOLON Mon Aug 18, 2014 4:31 pm
by Nick
ta/ga doesn't work well. need the puck to have it taken away.

It's also horribly recorded. Not a reliable stat even kinda.

Re: Scoring change

PostedCOLON Mon Aug 18, 2014 7:41 pm
by LeanMachine
They are making microchips in the players gloves to track GV/TK...next season