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Re: BUF - TOR

PostedCOLON Tue Dec 09, 2014 3:19 pm
by Handsome&FairMike
How do teams get penalized if they don't have their 1st overall pick (i.e. Ottawa, if they don't get healthy)

Re: BUF - TOR

PostedCOLON Tue Dec 09, 2014 3:20 pm
by The BBKL Insider
team that has that pick gets penalized.

Re: BUF - TOR

PostedCOLON Tue Dec 09, 2014 3:20 pm
by Lee
Through no fault of their own! Yay!

Re: BUF - TOR

PostedCOLON Tue Dec 09, 2014 3:21 pm
by The BBKL Insider
ya if i was billy i'd miss games played just to be a jerk

Re: BUF - TOR

PostedCOLON Tue Dec 09, 2014 3:22 pm
by Lee
Which is what he is doing.

Re: BUF - TOR

PostedCOLON Tue Dec 09, 2014 3:22 pm
by Mike
Lee wroteCOLONThrough no fault of their own! Yay!
Have an alternative suggestion or just criticism?

Re: BUF - TOR

PostedCOLON Tue Dec 09, 2014 3:22 pm
by Mike
afaik CC also supplements punishment if the pick is absent

Re: BUF - TOR

PostedCOLON Tue Dec 09, 2014 3:23 pm
by LeanMachine
Shouldn't it be the GMs responsibility to make trades to reach GP limit? surely a cap dump could be found somewhere.

Re: BUF - TOR

PostedCOLON Tue Dec 09, 2014 3:25 pm
by CAM
We've already been here before. The CC should be able to project at this point if a team will miss GP or not. Give the team a warning to correct the issue and if it is not fixed, the CC makes the roster moves for the team. Its the same as the NHL. If a team has an illegal roster they are fined or the roster is corrected to be legal.

Re: BUF - TOR

PostedCOLON Tue Dec 09, 2014 3:25 pm
by Fraser
Daniel Briere is very available people.

Re: BUF - TOR

PostedCOLON Tue Dec 09, 2014 3:26 pm
by The BBKL Insider
2nd rd pick is reasonable for Breier

Re: BUF - TOR

PostedCOLON Tue Dec 09, 2014 3:26 pm
by Lee
Mike wroteCOLON
Lee wroteCOLONThrough no fault of their own! Yay!
Have an alternative suggestion or just criticism?

Cynicism, mostly.

My suggestion would be to not punish someone who traded for a pick in good faith and had it run father up the ladder than was expected, but I'm obviously biased, owning a pick in that position.

Re: BUF - TOR

PostedCOLON Tue Dec 09, 2014 3:27 pm
by Mike
I've been in your position before

Re: BUF - TOR

PostedCOLON Tue Dec 09, 2014 3:28 pm
by LeanMachine
I mean if GM did "all he could do" to reach GP limit and still came up short, there should be some leniency.

"all he could do" - trade blocks, forum posts trying to make deals, evidence of zero fair offers, ect.

Re: BUF - TOR

PostedCOLON Tue Dec 09, 2014 3:29 pm
by Lee
Past mistakes shouldn't equate to current problems. Sucks that it happened to you but that doesn't mean it can't be corrected moving forward.

Re: BUF - TOR

PostedCOLON Tue Dec 09, 2014 3:29 pm
by Matthew
Lee - Doing the deal I offered for Kane gets you to cap floor when all your rookie contracts come up, gets you games played and thus a better chance at mcdavid/eichel with your top picks, and, well, gives you one of the best young offensive players in the game.

Re: BUF - TOR

PostedCOLON Tue Dec 09, 2014 3:29 pm
by Fraser
Lee wroteCOLON
Mike wroteCOLON
Lee wroteCOLONThrough no fault of their own! Yay!
Have an alternative suggestion or just criticism?

Cynicism, mostly.

My suggestion would be to not punish someone who traded for a pick in good faith and had it run father up the ladder than was expected, but I'm obviously biased, owning a pick in that position.
Yea I agree with Lee here. Would rather see the perpetrator be punished further down the line, rather than someone potentially losing a very valuable asset with no wrong-doing of their own.

Re: BUF - TOR

PostedCOLON Tue Dec 09, 2014 3:31 pm
by Mike
extenuating circumstances are considered by the cc

Re: BUF - TOR

PostedCOLON Tue Dec 09, 2014 3:31 pm
by The BBKL Insider
i'd like to see Lee punished

makes for good conversation

Re: BUF - TOR

PostedCOLON Tue Dec 09, 2014 3:32 pm
by Lee
Matthew wroteCOLONLee - Doing the deal I offered for Kane gets you to cap floor when all your rookie contracts come up, gets you games played and thus a better chance at mcdavid/eichel with your top picks, and, well, gives you one of the best young offensive players in the game.

I'm not trading Nylander, Virtanen and your first for Kane.