Matteau + PIT 2nd for a C Or D

[kimmer]

yea bro im over the guenin thing lol. Just that I wonder where u draw the line... pretty sure if i were u with like owning19082390809 prospects ud think ud technically (in ur definition) "lose" some value to get in some older solid GP pieces lol, but w/e...lolzz

[CasperX22]

no i wasnt referring to mat only altho i do think hes just a bit busty-esq righ tnow

but i am referring to your overall goddamn attitude of "oh ya my guys all have value urs dont lolz" is pretty inaccurate/ignorant and annoying. What do you consider value? lol just age? lolz cmon man theres a reason why u continuously drive urself down the standings without the proper ability to meet GP year after year (or barely meet it) i think that tells me u have trouble guaging proper value of what real life NHLers are worth vs your prospect hoarding pipe dream. Your constant statement of "i aint paying what i feel is way too much for 30 something oldies for the sake of trading" can be dissected and taken at face value differently depending on every single piece being offered but thats ur stupid answer for em every time. just frustrating because Guenin actually produces solid stats vs MAtteau who still cant play NHL full time.

i dont wanna sound harsh but am i not right people?

Matteau will likely be in the NHL by next season. He is blocked currently by some scrub veterans. He's likely going to be a solid periph bottom 6er.

[kimmer]

thx for insider info, NJD gm of another 30 team league. I bet you research tri-state teams a lot seeing as u live there

[Lee]

I have no problem losing a bit of value in dealing prospects for someone I'd deem as a solid add, one who would have long time value.

[kimmer]

i dont even know what u mean by long term value tbh lol. thats what im challenging u on i guess. the very definition of it
let me pick ur brain bro

is a player like jakub kindl a long-term value piece? hes like 28 but produces scrub fuckin stats and my dick with AIDS wouldnt even touch
what about like ryan getzlaf. hes like 32. does he have long term value?
what about alex ovechkin? almost 30 yrs old man - does he have long term value?

is it by ur logic, safe to assume u dont want to be competitive at the least - for the next 7 years? because the way ur building right now seems that ur aiming to have this absolutely impenetrable 23 man active roster consisting purely of 21-25 yr old STUDS only and absolutely nobody outside that age range. You realize thats actually impossible to farm up right.

[KapG]

Mcbain. Maybe

[Lee]

Looking for my kids to get good at around the same age.

Essentially what Anton did, but actually follow through on it

[Lee]

Mcbain. Maybe

I'd love to like McBain but he seems like the kind of guy who is jumping between KHL and NHL for the next few years.

[kimmer]

but ur build has a lotta risks bro cuz some are all by ur own little research and are like those fringe former blue chippers
anton actualy built around overpaying for good stud to be names like mackinnon/hall etc... several former 1st overall selections. Youre still hoping ur bridgade of former mid-late 1st rounders to gain value but dont u feel risky sitting on a ton of those types bro? I dont get it. I'm asking a genuine question

arent u afraid to death of at least 50% of them completely busting out and u wont ever end up getting proper value for it back? ur such a risk taker man esp if ur smart enuff to know what the pan-out rate of 1st round prospects are at

[Lee]

Mcbain. Maybe

I'd love to like McBain but he seems like the kind of guy who is jumping between KHL and NHL for the next few years.

What would you have me add for Schenn?

[Lee]

but ur build has a lotta risks bro cuz some are all by ur own little research and are like those fringe former blue chippers
anton actualy built around overpaying for good stud to be names like mackinnon/hall etc... several former 1st overall selections. Youre still hoping ur bridgade of former mid-late 1st rounders to gain value but dont u feel risky sitting a ton of those types bro? I dont get it. I'm asking a geniune question

arent u afraid to death of at least 50% of them completely busting out and u wont ever end up getting proper value for it back? ur such a risk taker man esp if ur smart enuff to know what the pan-out rate of 1st round prospects are at

I guess guys like Huberdeau, Nino, Nylander, Fleury , Ritchie and Dumba are mid to late 1sts.

Let me ask you. Where has adding 30 + years olds got you? You are 3 spots ahead of me in the standings. And I'm trying to be bad. You are trying to be good.

[kimmer]

but ur build has a lotta risks bro cuz some are all by ur own little research and are like those fringe former blue chippers
anton actualy built around overpaying for good stud to be names like mackinnon/hall etc... several former 1st overall selections. Youre still hoping ur bridgade of former mid-late 1st rounders to gain value but dont u feel risky sitting a ton of those types bro? I dont get it. I'm asking a geniune question

arent u afraid to death of at least 50% of them completely busting out and u wont ever end up getting proper value for it back? ur such a risk taker man esp if ur smart enuff to know what the pan-out rate of 1st round prospects are at

I guess guys like Huberdeau, Nino, Nylander, Fleury , Ritchie and Dumba are mid to late 1sts.

Let me ask you. Where has adding 30 + years olds got you? You are 3 spots ahead of me in the standings. And I'm trying to be bad. You are trying to be good.

i only upgraded my roster this way from like week 15 or 16. I know my team situation and you clearly dont.

with a bottom 3 like roster composition from week 1 - 14, i got smashed many times by teams i could easily fuckin murder right now. I just kicekd it up a notch so that mik wouldnt benefit from my 2015 1st. I know what im doing and guess what, i keep thjat same roster i have now going into next year i doubt i have to worry about not making the playoffs. I speak about ur team from actually knowing ur build and what end point u wanna achieve, and its not realistic unlike mine. It's fun to poke fun at so please just let me be if ur not gonna engage in a decent conversation about what i asked you

I guess guys like Huberdeau, Nino, Nylander, Fleury , Ritchie and Dumba are mid to late 1sts.

they are like nothing close to MacK Hall Drouin in terms of upside. Maybe Huby sure, but ya still so far as a 3rd year player his H2H isn't anything close to world class
remember if us bbklers talk about wanting to "win", look at the previous bbkl winners. Team compsition of heavy H2H contributors are important. I doubt any of the names u just mentioned here produce that type of winning H2H heavy stats even 2-3 years down the road. Thats why I call ur build extremely risky. Do you just sit there on ur seat eye fucking these prospects and compare directly to which current H2H studs we see that u think they will become? Because I just dont get how u balance getting off on that sorta mindset + striving to meet the realistic and reasonable IMO, GP requirement our league puts on. It's a fair question

I also believ there is a fine fine line between a player being "good" at hockey and players good at H2H... its by logical assumption, way easier to project and predict soft scoring offensive upside type players to be whether good or bad at scoring in NHL vs projecting a physical periph category oriented H2H type prospects. Look at fuckin Tinordi already. How many years have bbklers been losing their virginity over on how big and strong he is but hes still a fuckin minor leaguer "developing". Yes i get it that big dmen take long to develope but at the same time open ur eyes man. When do u wanna win? for example say a kid has obsession with tinodri. how long u gonna sit on these kids? u def werent gonna win a year ago if u kept tinordi, ur still not gonna get jack shit from him this year nor next year either.

[Lee]

I'd maybe engage you if you stopped talking out of your ass.

You do you. I'll do me. I like the direction my team is heading. Not having Severson injured for most of the year and Morrisey being in the NHL like he should have been, who knows where my team would be.

Thanks for your concern, though.

[KapG]

Mcbain. Maybe

I'd love to like McBain but he seems like the kind of guy who is jumping between KHL and NHL for the next few years.

I think he signs in the NHL again this offseason.

Send me a pm if u change your mind.

[kimmer]

no lee ur just mad that im 100% right and u have no skills or ability to take ur team to deal effectively to know what it takes to be competitive. you tried like that one year u got in suter and gagner and failed because little did u know suters like one of the worst H2H contributors in NHL considering his cap hit/overall TOI. I saw many error of judgmenet on ur calls and now I just see u as a poor little butthurt dude that hides from trying to make a proper deal cuz u cant.

and im not talkikng about me im talking about u. I kno my errors and faults. worst conversationalists often turn the table the other way when they feel pressured. I know my fucin team has like four hundred 37 yr olds. Look at their production tho. I'm pretty confident as it is the wway im building right now still is better than ur conservative crapshoot type patience build where I know it will go nowhere once u realize over 50% of them will lose all type of value available. so w/e nigga do what u want

[Lee]

You got me, Paul. I'm a terrible GM.

[KapG]

Mcbain. Maybe

I'd love to like McBain but he seems like the kind of guy who is jumping between KHL and NHL for the next few years.

What would you have me add for Schenn?

Schenns a guy I need for hits and bs unfortunately...

[KapG]

Why do people care if Lee wants to build through the draft/with prospects and younger guys?

In fact, if Lee hadn't blown up his rebuild a couple of years ago while acquiring some big names, he'd very likely be lot further along then he is now. seems to me he is just sticking to the gameplan this time around...

[CasperX22]

Mcbain. Maybe

I'd love to like McBain but he seems like the kind of guy who is jumping between KHL and NHL for the next few years.

What would you have me add for Schenn?

Schenns a guy I need for hits and bs unfortunately...

Needs to actually play first.

[KapG]

Well, from what I've watched and read from Philly fans he's been playing pretty darn well this year? Its not his fault he has the same coach that will often give guys like Rinaldo just as much if not more ES toi then my boy voracek.

Hes been waaaaay better than Grossman or MacDonald as well....

I appreciate your concern though Casper