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Re: The Stupidest, Most Retarded Thing I've Ever Done!
PostedCOLON Wed Aug 11, 2010 11:45 pm
by Mike
inferno31 wroteCOLONSurprised Scott took on the 6.75 salary of Koivu but good hockey deal, especially long term for Scott. Bennett definitely helps swings the deal I think, but makes Tony a much better team almost instantly.
Any by that logic I can make a condition saying if this prospect doesn't play x amount of games by 2015 you get a 2016 pick? Personally I'd rather not open that can of worms.
Scott and I have already discussed this. I think the deal will be amended.
Re: The Stupidest, Most Retarded Thing I've Ever Done!
PostedCOLON Wed Aug 11, 2010 11:56 pm
by Tony
Here's my reasoning with the prospects ... there are no promises. I'm was/getting back into the mode of proven players (for the most part) over prospects/picks, which this league treats like gold. I agree with Kyle quite a bit when it comes to this ...
I really didn't want to move Koivu, especially being comparable stat-wise to Toews. I fell, however, that Toews is more consistent and his ceiling is higher. I seemingly always have to give way more than I get, but that's the way it is when you really want someone.
Re: The Stupidest, Most Retarded Thing I've Ever Done!
PostedCOLON Thu Aug 12, 2010 4:47 am
by Scott
Sorry fellas, my bad.. Tony and I are figuring something out now in regards to that condition.
Re: The Stupidest, Most Retarded Thing I've Ever Done!
PostedCOLON Thu Aug 12, 2010 9:13 am
by armandtanzarian
I think the following condition needs to be placed on Scott:
You are no longer allowed to have player based signatures because you trade franchise players weekly
Oh, and this is my prediction that Heatley will be moved in the very near future
Hes a one trick pony!
Re: The Stupidest, Most Retarded Thing I've Ever Done!
PostedCOLON Thu Aug 12, 2010 9:24 am
by Shoalzie
I gotta say, I'm very surprised Scott would move Toews considering how much he wanted him in the first place. I understand he had cap issues and he's done a lot of shuffling to his team this summer but I didn't imagine he'd be the guy he'd move and to get a player making more money in the process. He's done a lot of work moving contracts to keep him at or near the top of the league.
Koivu does offer a lot of the same things, if not does them better than Toews...but I think based on supporting cast, you have to love Toews upside. Toews is 5 years younger and has a lesser cap hit but will probably make a much bigger salary when this next deal is up. Both guys are #1 centers that are defensive-minded as well as very strong in the faceoff circles and are more of a facilitator...a pass-first player but can still score a fair share of goals.
I think what he and several of the other top GMs here makes sure that they have all their bases covered with a deal and ultimately he'll somehow win this deal in the end when right now, it doesn't look as good on the surface.
Re: The Stupidest, Most Retarded Thing I've Ever Done!
PostedCOLON Thu Aug 12, 2010 9:33 am
by Scott
Fyi guys, Koivu is only making 3.25 this season. His new contract kicks in next year.
Re: The Stupidest, Most Retarded Thing I've Ever Done!
PostedCOLON Thu Aug 12, 2010 10:05 am
by Shoalzie
Raptactics wroteCOLONFyi guys, Koivu is only making 3.25 this season. His new contract kicks in next year.
Good point...forgot about that.
Re: The Stupidest, Most Retarded Thing I've Ever Done!
PostedCOLON Thu Aug 12, 2010 11:52 am
by MSP4LYFE
Raptactics wroteCOLONSorry fellas, my bad.. Tony and I are figuring something out now in regards to that condition.
I didn't even realize how the condition was faulty until someone brought it up, lol.
Re: The Stupidest, Most Retarded Thing I've Ever Done!
PostedCOLON Thu Aug 12, 2010 11:53 am
by MSP4LYFE
Nighthock wroteCOLONHere's my reasoning with the prospects ... there are no promises. I'm was/getting back into the mode of proven players (for the most part) over prospects/picks, which this league treats like gold. I agree with Kyle quite a bit when it comes to this ...
I really didn't want to move Koivu, especially being comparable stat-wise to Toews. I fell, however, that Toews is more consistent and his ceiling is higher. I seemingly always have to give way more than I get, but that's the way it is when you really want someone.
To be fair, I think you got one hell of a player in Linus Omark.
Re: The Stupidest, Most Retarded Thing I've Ever Done!
PostedCOLON Thu Aug 12, 2010 12:01 pm
by Shep
And the rich get richer.
Re: The Stupidest, Most Retarded Thing I've Ever Done!
PostedCOLON Thu Aug 12, 2010 12:57 pm
by jcarton
Stellar deal for both, and i agree the islanders did get better
Re: The Stupidest, Most Retarded Thing I've Ever Done!
PostedCOLON Thu Aug 12, 2010 4:33 pm
by Scott
Instead of the condition, Tony and I decided to just add Mikko Lehtonen to the deal. Updated the OP
Re: The Stupidest, Most Retarded Thing I've Ever Done!
PostedCOLON Thu Aug 12, 2010 5:05 pm
by Tony
confirm on the other Mikko
Re: The Stupidest, Most Retarded Thing I've Ever Done!
PostedCOLON Thu Nov 10, 2016 1:34 pm
by kimmer
Tony is an idiot for not keeping toews abdel
Re: The Stupidest, Most Retarded Thing I've Ever Done!
PostedCOLON Thu Nov 10, 2016 2:06 pm
by Tony
Re: The Stupidest, Most Retarded Thing I've Ever Done!
PostedCOLON Thu Nov 10, 2016 10:45 pm
by hong57
so this trade shows tony actually won the trade (lazy to find out who scott picked with that pick)
Re: The Stupidest, Most Retarded Thing I've Ever Done!
PostedCOLON Thu Nov 10, 2016 11:10 pm
by Matthew
hong57 wroteCOLONso this trade shows tony actually won the trade (lazy to find out who scott picked with that pick)
I think he traded it to Montreal and Chuck either selected Malcolm subban or Cody ceci. Not sure which Montreal pick belonged to Chuck and which one to tony.
Re: The Stupidest, Most Retarded Thing I've Ever Done!
PostedCOLON Thu Nov 10, 2016 11:32 pm
by hong57
Still even if it's ceci.. Tony wins IMO and it's not as "rape" as it was first thought...
Re: The Stupidest, Most Retarded Thing I've Ever Done!
PostedCOLON Thu Nov 10, 2016 11:33 pm
by hong57
actually i just ran through all my trades... half of them are of no significance
Re: The Stupidest, Most Retarded Thing I've Ever Done!
PostedCOLON Thu Nov 10, 2016 11:38 pm
by Matthew
I dunno who this scott guy was but I went through the trade archives from 2010/2011/2012 and he was involved in like 1/3 of all deals. He was a crazy trader. Maybe get this guy for las vegas if he is interested in rejoining?