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Re: The Stupidest, Most Retarded Thing I've Ever Done!

PostedCOLON Wed Aug 11, 2010 11:45 pm
by Mike
inferno31 wroteCOLONSurprised Scott took on the 6.75 salary of Koivu but good hockey deal, especially long term for Scott. Bennett definitely helps swings the deal I think, but makes Tony a much better team almost instantly.

Any by that logic I can make a condition saying if this prospect doesn't play x amount of games by 2015 you get a 2016 pick? Personally I'd rather not open that can of worms.
Scott and I have already discussed this. I think the deal will be amended.

Re: The Stupidest, Most Retarded Thing I've Ever Done!

PostedCOLON Wed Aug 11, 2010 11:56 pm
by Tony
Here's my reasoning with the prospects ... there are no promises. I'm was/getting back into the mode of proven players (for the most part) over prospects/picks, which this league treats like gold. I agree with Kyle quite a bit when it comes to this ...

I really didn't want to move Koivu, especially being comparable stat-wise to Toews. I fell, however, that Toews is more consistent and his ceiling is higher. I seemingly always have to give way more than I get, but that's the way it is when you really want someone.

Re: The Stupidest, Most Retarded Thing I've Ever Done!

PostedCOLON Thu Aug 12, 2010 4:47 am
by Scott
Sorry fellas, my bad.. Tony and I are figuring something out now in regards to that condition.

Re: The Stupidest, Most Retarded Thing I've Ever Done!

PostedCOLON Thu Aug 12, 2010 9:13 am
by armandtanzarian
I think the following condition needs to be placed on Scott:

You are no longer allowed to have player based signatures because you trade franchise players weekly :)

Oh, and this is my prediction that Heatley will be moved in the very near future ;) Hes a one trick pony!

Re: The Stupidest, Most Retarded Thing I've Ever Done!

PostedCOLON Thu Aug 12, 2010 9:24 am
by Shoalzie
I gotta say, I'm very surprised Scott would move Toews considering how much he wanted him in the first place. I understand he had cap issues and he's done a lot of shuffling to his team this summer but I didn't imagine he'd be the guy he'd move and to get a player making more money in the process. He's done a lot of work moving contracts to keep him at or near the top of the league.

Koivu does offer a lot of the same things, if not does them better than Toews...but I think based on supporting cast, you have to love Toews upside. Toews is 5 years younger and has a lesser cap hit but will probably make a much bigger salary when this next deal is up. Both guys are #1 centers that are defensive-minded as well as very strong in the faceoff circles and are more of a facilitator...a pass-first player but can still score a fair share of goals.

I think what he and several of the other top GMs here makes sure that they have all their bases covered with a deal and ultimately he'll somehow win this deal in the end when right now, it doesn't look as good on the surface.

Re: The Stupidest, Most Retarded Thing I've Ever Done!

PostedCOLON Thu Aug 12, 2010 9:33 am
by Scott
Fyi guys, Koivu is only making 3.25 this season. His new contract kicks in next year.

Re: The Stupidest, Most Retarded Thing I've Ever Done!

PostedCOLON Thu Aug 12, 2010 10:05 am
by Shoalzie
Raptactics wroteCOLONFyi guys, Koivu is only making 3.25 this season. His new contract kicks in next year.


Good point...forgot about that.

Re: The Stupidest, Most Retarded Thing I've Ever Done!

PostedCOLON Thu Aug 12, 2010 11:52 am
by MSP4LYFE
Raptactics wroteCOLONSorry fellas, my bad.. Tony and I are figuring something out now in regards to that condition.
I didn't even realize how the condition was faulty until someone brought it up, lol.

Re: The Stupidest, Most Retarded Thing I've Ever Done!

PostedCOLON Thu Aug 12, 2010 11:53 am
by MSP4LYFE
Nighthock wroteCOLONHere's my reasoning with the prospects ... there are no promises. I'm was/getting back into the mode of proven players (for the most part) over prospects/picks, which this league treats like gold. I agree with Kyle quite a bit when it comes to this ...

I really didn't want to move Koivu, especially being comparable stat-wise to Toews. I fell, however, that Toews is more consistent and his ceiling is higher. I seemingly always have to give way more than I get, but that's the way it is when you really want someone.
To be fair, I think you got one hell of a player in Linus Omark.

Re: The Stupidest, Most Retarded Thing I've Ever Done!

PostedCOLON Thu Aug 12, 2010 12:01 pm
by Shep
And the rich get richer.

Re: The Stupidest, Most Retarded Thing I've Ever Done!

PostedCOLON Thu Aug 12, 2010 12:57 pm
by jcarton
Stellar deal for both, and i agree the islanders did get better

Re: The Stupidest, Most Retarded Thing I've Ever Done!

PostedCOLON Thu Aug 12, 2010 4:33 pm
by Scott
Instead of the condition, Tony and I decided to just add Mikko Lehtonen to the deal. Updated the OP

Re: The Stupidest, Most Retarded Thing I've Ever Done!

PostedCOLON Thu Aug 12, 2010 5:05 pm
by Tony
confirm on the other Mikko

Re: The Stupidest, Most Retarded Thing I've Ever Done!

PostedCOLON Thu Nov 10, 2016 1:34 pm
by kimmer
Tony is an idiot for not keeping toews abdel

Re: The Stupidest, Most Retarded Thing I've Ever Done!

PostedCOLON Thu Nov 10, 2016 2:06 pm
by Tony
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Re: The Stupidest, Most Retarded Thing I've Ever Done!

PostedCOLON Thu Nov 10, 2016 10:45 pm
by hong57
so this trade shows tony actually won the trade (lazy to find out who scott picked with that pick)

Re: The Stupidest, Most Retarded Thing I've Ever Done!

PostedCOLON Thu Nov 10, 2016 11:10 pm
by Matthew
hong57 wroteCOLONso this trade shows tony actually won the trade (lazy to find out who scott picked with that pick)
I think he traded it to Montreal and Chuck either selected Malcolm subban or Cody ceci. Not sure which Montreal pick belonged to Chuck and which one to tony.

Re: The Stupidest, Most Retarded Thing I've Ever Done!

PostedCOLON Thu Nov 10, 2016 11:32 pm
by hong57
Still even if it's ceci.. Tony wins IMO and it's not as "rape" as it was first thought...

Re: The Stupidest, Most Retarded Thing I've Ever Done!

PostedCOLON Thu Nov 10, 2016 11:33 pm
by hong57
actually i just ran through all my trades... half of them are of no significance

Re: The Stupidest, Most Retarded Thing I've Ever Done!

PostedCOLON Thu Nov 10, 2016 11:38 pm
by Matthew
I dunno who this scott guy was but I went through the trade archives from 2010/2011/2012 and he was involved in like 1/3 of all deals. He was a crazy trader. Maybe get this guy for las vegas if he is interested in rejoining?