Buds Board Keepers League

kyuss wroteCOLONfirst of all, Matthews is a much better goal scorer than Barkov has ever been so far.

second, you just said you'd much rather have Barkov than the above package

"I can guarantee you I'd trade the above package for Barkov"

Im no english teacher, but to me that says id trade barkov for that same package.

To me it says the opposite. Unless you want to keep trading back and forth the same assets till the end of time

Tj is good

Matthews could end up even better

I figured the backlash towards the fact Mike was acquiring this pick would be worse the backlash over the return. I had plenty of guilt built up over the fact the best teams in the league ultimate had the best offers. Steve came strong with Johansen but didn't have the better overall offer. Mik was definitely interested but didn't want to move any of the centers that I wanted. I didn't see myself taking the same type of deal Cliff took for #2. Thom threw out Galchenyuk, who I really liked but he ultimately wanted Bennett more.

This is the reality of the league...the best teams have the most resources. I can't get out of last place without adding multiple pieces. I did far better than when I first joined the league botched the trades of Jonathan Toews, the Detroit goaltending and several other valuable assets.

We had this deal basically agreed upon since Saturday. I took the weekend to decide what I'd do and I wanted to see what Cliff would do with his pick because there was possibility of swapping 1-2. He made his deal Sunday so I spent all of Monday deciding if this was the way to go. Wrapped up the Bennett deal with Thom and now had the collective of the three big trades to look over and I felt comfortable with the overall return.

If I had a roster similar to what I have now and I owned that draft pick...I probably don't trade it. There was next to nothing on this roster beside Matthews. This is probably the last deal of this kind that I ever have to do. I needed to get over the hump in terms of resources, which I had very few. Johnson's value going forward all depends on what happens with Stamkos. In real hockey, I would've built a team around Ekblad, Bennett and Matthews but that doesn't work in this format. You need depth and balance...this is a stat-heavy league.

I'm sorry many of you feel the way you do...I had to do what's best for my team. I make no apologies for that.

No apologies needed and like Matthew mentioned Mike is actually losing quality pieces to make these deals and his minors is no longer loaded with top prospects like it used to be. Sure his lineup is still favoured to win, but he had to use guys like Kalinin, Martinsen, Andreoff, Jooris, Pakarinen, Goloubef, Strachan and Sustr. I remember when he had top players at every position and didn't have to use depth guys like that, some of it was because of injuries, but in past years he had more quality guys in his minors to call up.

I think he is coming back to the pack a little bit since we have better GMs overall and there is more parity than a few years ago.

Agreed with Scott and Matt, there are still top teams, but every good league should have top teams- its no longer impossible to beat them though.

Shoalzie wroteCOLONI figured the backlash towards the fact Mike was acquiring this pick would be worse the backlash over the return. I had plenty of guilt built up over the fact the best teams in the league ultimate had the best offers. Steve came strong with Johansen but didn't have the better overall offer. Mik was definitely interested but didn't want to move any of the centers that I wanted.

for the record, the only 2 centers you wanted were Larkin and Kuznetsov.
Obviously I was not going to add relevant assets to move from one of them to Matthews, who might not even do better while making more money than them, so clearly they weren't viable options for the multiple assets payback you needed.

Shoalzie wroteCOLON sorry many of you feel the way you do...I had to do what's best for my team. I make no apologies for that.

I don't think people are complaining about that..

The fact we the salary cap and progressively stricter waiver rules...it's tougher to "hoard" talent. Contending teams want to acquire players on the ELC or bridge deals because they can fit under their cap. NHL teams are the same way...you can have some big ticket players but you have some good value contracts to fill out your lineup.

Mike will have some interesting decisions to make in a few years when McDavid and Matthews are out of their rookie deals are probably getting huge raises. ELCs are 3 years standard so you can have young studs but when their first contract is up...there could be some cap concerns.

Shoalzie wroteCOLONI figured the backlash towards the fact Mike was acquiring this pick would be worse the backlash over the return. I had plenty of guilt built up over the fact the best teams in the league ultimate had the best offers. Steve came strong with Johansen but didn't have the better overall offer. Mik was definitely interested but didn't want to move any of the centers that I wanted. I didn't see myself taking the same type of deal Cliff took for #2. Thom threw out Galchenyuk, who I really liked but he ultimately wanted Bennett more.

This is the reality of the league...the best teams have the most resources. I can't get out of last place without adding multiple pieces. I did far better than when I first joined the league botched the trades of Jonathan Toews, the Detroit goaltending and several other valuable assets.

We had this deal basically agreed upon since Saturday. I took the weekend to decide what I'd do and I wanted to see what Cliff would do with his pick because there was possibility of swapping 1-2. He made his deal Sunday so I spent all of Monday deciding if this was the way to go. Wrapped up the Bennett deal with Thom and now had the collective of the three big trades to look over and I felt comfortable with the overall return.

If I had a roster similar to what I have now and I owned that draft pick...I probably don't trade it. There was next to nothing on this roster beside Matthews. This is probably the last deal of this kind that I ever have to do. I needed to get over the hump in terms of resources, which I had very few. Johnson's value going forward all depends on what happens with Stamkos. In real hockey, I would've built a team around Ekblad, Bennett and Matthews but that doesn't work in this format. You need depth and balance...this is a stat-heavy league.

I'm sorry many of you feel the way you do...I had to do what's best for my team. I make no apologies for that.

Fuck everyones feelings

This was a good trade for Scott.

Nick wroteCOLONThis was a good trade for Scott.

Yup

I think this was a great offer. I thought my offer was strong but I told scott i thought this deal was better.

Ya Scott you did fine. Just as you said if you had your team now you wouldn't have moved the pick or at least would have focused on top-end talent in lower quantity, which in an ideal world is what this league will head towards, hopefully

KapG wroteCOLON

Nick wroteCOLONThis was a good trade for Scott.

Yup

Interesting how the tune has changed in a calendar year.

What changed Casper?

Is this not a good trade? Best one Scott has made using one of his firsts IMO

KapG wroteCOLONWhat changed Casper?

Is this not a good trade? Best one Scott has made using one of his firsts IMO

Didn't you chastise Dallas for making the same kind of deal last season when Dallas imo got more than Scott did here?

... Mcdavid >>> Matthews

Matthew wroteCOLON... Mcdavid >>> Matthews

Exaggeration much? And completely misses the point.

CasperX22 wroteCOLON

KapG wroteCOLONWhat changed Casper?

Is this not a good trade? Best one Scott has made using one of his firsts IMO

Didn't you chastise Dallas for making the same kind of deal last season when Dallas imo got more than Scott did here?

Better pieces in here I think and for a lesser prospect.

Looking back on that thread all I pretty much said was that it was krug + yakupov and a bunch of "meh" and that I thought darkness could have gotten a better deal if he waited. Id take Johnson over any of those guys

KapG wroteCOLON

CasperX22 wroteCOLON

KapG wroteCOLONWhat changed Casper?

Is this not a good trade? Best one Scott has made using one of his firsts IMO

Didn't you chastise Dallas for making the same kind of deal last season when Dallas imo got more than Scott did here?

Better pieces in here I think and for a lesser prospect.

Looking back on that thread all I pretty much said was that it was krug + yakupov and a bunch of "meh" and that I thought darkness could have gotten a better deal if he waited. Id take Johnson over any of those guys

I'm not taking Johnson over Krug. The Yak hype was way overblown, so he was right to quickly move him for the best me could get.