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Re: want 3rds

PostedCOLON Tue Jul 21, 2020 12:19 pm
by dave1959
Shoalzie wroteCOLONI'll have our drafts going back to 2009 moved into Google (eventually) so you can track your full draft history.

awesom. i won't continue doing what i'm doing then.

Re: want 3rds

PostedCOLON Tue Jul 21, 2020 12:21 pm
by Matthew
dave1959 wroteCOLON
Shoalzie wroteCOLONI'll have our drafts going back to 2009 moved into Google (eventually) so you can track your full draft history.

awesom. i won't continue doing what i'm doing then.
Booooo. I thought we were gonna get some maths.

Re: want 3rds

PostedCOLON Tue Jul 21, 2020 12:42 pm
by Bruyns
Moved

Re: want 3rds

PostedCOLON Tue Jul 21, 2020 12:43 pm
by kimmer
kimmer wroteCOLONupcoming 3rds wanted

available are:

Ryan Reaves
Dominic Toninato
Evan Rodrigues
pick 119
pick 162
pick 198
pick 204
2021 5th 6th 7th (CAR)
2021 7th (MIN)
2022 3rd 4th 5th 6th 7th (CAR)

Re: want 3rds

PostedCOLON Tue Jul 21, 2020 12:44 pm
by kimmer
kimmer wroteCOLON
kimmer wroteCOLONupcoming 3rds wanted

available are:

Ryan Reaves
Dominic Toninato
Evan Rodrigues
pick 119
pick 162
pick 198
pick 204
2021 5th 6th 7th (CAR)
2021 7th (MIN)
2022 3rd 4th 5th 6th 7th (CAR)

Re: want 3rds

PostedCOLON Tue Jul 21, 2020 12:47 pm
by Matthew
You can't trade 2022 picks, Paul.

Re: want 3rds

PostedCOLON Tue Jul 21, 2020 12:55 pm
by kimmer
can gentleman's deal

Re: want 3rds

PostedCOLON Tue Jul 21, 2020 2:04 pm
by Tony
dave1959 wroteCOLONI am Matthew :)

doing a spreadsheet
Image

Re: want 3rds

PostedCOLON Tue Jul 21, 2020 2:09 pm
by kimmer
MAYOR CLAYYYY

Re: want 3rds

PostedCOLON Tue Jul 21, 2020 2:09 pm
by Shoalzie
Matthew wroteCOLON
dave1959 wroteCOLON
Shoalzie wroteCOLONI'll have our drafts going back to 2009 moved into Google (eventually) so you can track your full draft history.

awesom. i won't continue doing what i'm doing then.
Booooo. I thought we were gonna get some maths.



I can practically do that with what I have. Just need to compare the BBKL position to the real draft position. I have all those data points.

I've been collecting this data for years...just trying to find different ways to use it.

Re: want 3rds

PostedCOLON Tue Jul 21, 2020 2:12 pm
by kyuss
only, NHL draft positions mean nothing when trying to assess the eventual BBKL draft success

Re: want 3rds

PostedCOLON Tue Jul 21, 2020 2:17 pm
by kimmer
btw davey
you wanna look at some names I got with the mid late rds + waiver drafts in previous yrs?
only Bemstrom, ZAR to name a few =)))
that's when I was perma high and wasn't even trying either =)))
keep in mind that I never had 1sts #playhardmode

Re: want 3rds

PostedCOLON Tue Jul 21, 2020 2:21 pm
by Matthew
Yeah, Dave. Paul used to dump all his 1st round pick value into his roster, which is the reason he always sported such a powerhouse team. I bet you feel stupid now, eh buddy!

Re: want 3rds

PostedCOLON Tue Jul 21, 2020 2:25 pm
by Shoalzie
kimmer wroteCOLONbtw davey
you wanna look at some names I got with the mid late rds + waiver drafts in previous yrs?
only Bemstrom, ZAR to name a few =)))
that's when I was perma high and wasn't even trying either =)))
keep in mind that I never had 1sts #playhardmode


Aston-Reese is undrafted so I don't know how you measure that. Our waiver draft is basically us drafting the best available undrafted free agents.

Bemstrom you took 84th...he was pick 117th by Columbus.

Re: want 3rds

PostedCOLON Tue Jul 21, 2020 2:26 pm
by Shoalzie
I can take my draft sheets and attach the career GP to each player to show in the player has appeared in the NHL or not. In the end, isn't the point of this draft to find NHLers? The degree of NHL success with vary.

Re: want 3rds

PostedCOLON Tue Jul 21, 2020 2:38 pm
by Bruyns
kyuss wroteCOLONonly, NHL draft positions mean nothing when trying to assess the eventual BBKL draft success
That's why I went with playing in an NHL game in my post in the other thread. That's the goal to get NHLers so seems like the easiest way to measure. You get some quirks like guys who only ever play a handful of games, but I'd argue that's still a more successful pick then a guy with 0GP.

Re: want 3rds

PostedCOLON Tue Jul 21, 2020 2:48 pm
by Shoalzie
Bruyns wroteCOLON
kyuss wroteCOLONonly, NHL draft positions mean nothing when trying to assess the eventual BBKL draft success
That's why I went with playing in an NHL game in my post in the other thread. That's the goal to get NHLers so seems like the easiest way to measure. You get some quirks like guys who only ever play a handful of games, but I'd argue that's still a more successful pick then a guy with 0GP.


The two measures I use for draft "success"...does the player sign an NHL contract and do they appear in a game? Stats are obviously what matters in fantasy but you want to be grade yourself on finding future pros. Having a nice prospect pool is one thing but which of those guys are going to be NHLers?

After I update our draft sheet tonight, I'll slap together a report with some of our recent drafts to show which picks "turned pro" or not. What is everyone's "hit rate" in a given draft? Which rounds produced the most pros?

Re: want 3rds

PostedCOLON Tue Jul 21, 2020 2:54 pm
by Bruyns
Shoalzie wroteCOLON
Bruyns wroteCOLON
kyuss wroteCOLONonly, NHL draft positions mean nothing when trying to assess the eventual BBKL draft success
That's why I went with playing in an NHL game in my post in the other thread. That's the goal to get NHLers so seems like the easiest way to measure. You get some quirks like guys who only ever play a handful of games, but I'd argue that's still a more successful pick then a guy with 0GP.


The two measures I use for draft "success"...does the player sign an NHL contract and do they appear in a game? Stats are obviously what matters in fantasy but you want to be grade yourself on finding future pros. Having a nice prospect pool is one thing but which of those guys are going to be NHLers?

After I update our draft sheet tonight, I'll slap together a report with some of our recent drafts to show which picks "turned pro" or not. What is everyone's "hit rate" in a given draft? Which rounds produced the most pros?
That would be awesome

Re: want 3rds

PostedCOLON Tue Jul 21, 2020 5:17 pm
by Loki
kimmer wroteCOLON bro
you drafted zary at 12
and kaiden fucking guhle at 21

you deserve to be ostracized lol, be quiet and go back to ur corner
Wow this thread is something :lol:
Btw I drafted Guhle at 26, so I'm not sure what's happening here :P

Re: want 3rds

PostedCOLON Tue Jul 21, 2020 5:22 pm
by kimmer
guhle was in another league