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Re: CHI-PIT Blockbuster
PostedCOLON Sat Jun 12, 2010 11:35 am
by Nick
i didn't mean to imply it was bad from your side.... shiv simply got exactly what he needed... and Bolland is a 2nd line C.... currently and over-rated one... but he's not bad....
Re: CHI-PIT Blockbuster
PostedCOLON Sat Jun 12, 2010 12:25 pm
by Robin Hood
anton wroteCOLONfacey wroteCOLONi think shiv won this big.
i think you crazy.
what did i really give up? a 3rd liner. an aging defenceman. and a 20th or later pick.
and i got the art ross winner from last season.
kyle gave up more for a draft pick for fucks sake.
i think you got a solid star anton. but i think youre undervaluing what you gave up. a year from now this is going to look like a solid deal for me too. win-win imo.
Re: CHI-PIT Blockbuster
PostedCOLON Sat Jun 12, 2010 12:32 pm
by Shoalzie
Shiv has too many centers and I think he's done well to turn a strength into strengthening other spots. Bolland is an intriguing guy...he's got the makings of a formidable checking line center.
Re: CHI-PIT Blockbuster
PostedCOLON Sat Jun 12, 2010 12:32 pm
by MSP4LYFE
SuperMario wroteCOLONlol this deal improved my chances imo. and i'm with steve. bolland could go from a 45 point guy to a 60 point guy (he had 16 points in 22 playoff games. that prorated to 82 is equal to 60 points). and this is with all of chicagos depth in the line up. all its going to take is Sharp getting moved/bolland getting line 2 center with hossa. btw for those that are curious:
Henrik = 90 points
Skrastins = 10 points (He was my 6th d-man)
Total Salary = 7.4m
Total = 100 points (on average)
Bolland = 50 points
Kubina = 30 points
Total Salary = 7.4m (assuming Kubina gets 4m as a FA which i think he will get less than but lets be conservative)
Total = 80 points (reasonable forecast regardless of where kubina goes and these are conservative estimates)
Thats a difference of 20 points. But the entire 20 points are in assists not goals. Assists were the category I have plenty in.
None of this is to mention, FOW even out, I gain HUGE in SHTOI, PIMS, HITS, BS, SOG, STPTS.
AND I got a 1st Rounder + 3rd Rounder + 4th for free.
Bolland has yet to score 50 points in the NHL, I hardly view that as a conservative estimate. Especially considering the unknowns with him, is he traded? Does Chicago get weaker up front? Etc.
Re: CHI-PIT Blockbuster
PostedCOLON Sat Jun 12, 2010 12:44 pm
by Topher
i actually agree with Kareem on Bolland
Re: CHI-PIT Blockbuster
PostedCOLON Sat Jun 12, 2010 12:49 pm
by jcarton
It looks like the deal fits for both, Sedin is overrated imo but he will still put you up some numbers and shiv will increase in other categories, I don't believe Bolland will be a 60 pt guy id say around 30 to 40 but he will help out in other cats as well so the deal isn't bad. imo
Re: CHI-PIT Blockbuster
PostedCOLON Sat Jun 12, 2010 1:43 pm
by Robin Hood
im going to look like a genius at this point in time next year.
Re: CHI-PIT Blockbuster
PostedCOLON Sat Jun 12, 2010 1:50 pm
by Nick
SuperMario wroteCOLONim going to look like a genius at this point in time next year.
i dunno about that dude. but i still like it for you...
bolland ceiling is not high enough to make u look like a genious... you know who could look like a genious? steve... boedker could make him look very smart
Re: CHI-PIT Blockbuster
PostedCOLON Sat Jun 12, 2010 1:53 pm
by Robin Hood
facey wroteCOLONSuperMario wroteCOLONim going to look like a genius at this point in time next year.
i dunno about that dude. but i still like it for you...
bolland ceiling is not high enough to make u look like a genious... you know who could look like a genious? steve... boedker could make him look very smart
yeah personally from your standpoint that deal was at best equal i thought.
Re: CHI-PIT Blockbuster
PostedCOLON Sat Jun 12, 2010 1:54 pm
by Nick
i knew it was dumb... steve caught me hung over and bored... it happens... if i get one of my targets i'll live... and honestly boedker is having a rough go of his pro career... however IMO he's a top 10 skater... meaning he'll have an important role even if its as a PK specialist.
Re: CHI-PIT Blockbuster
PostedCOLON Sat Jun 12, 2010 10:55 pm
by anton
Radiohead wroteCOLONTime to re-unite the appleheads.
sorry man. sedin is stayin with me
Re: CHI-PIT Blockbuster
PostedCOLON Sun Jun 13, 2010 12:05 am
by Radiohead
anton wroteCOLONRadiohead wroteCOLONTime to re-unite the appleheads.
sorry man. sedin is stayin with me
Daniel applehead is always available.
Re: CHI-PIT Blockbuster
PostedCOLON Sun Jun 13, 2010 9:36 am
by kyuss
SuperMario wroteCOLONim going to look like a genius at this point in time next year.
You would indeed if the highlighted part below will be proved right
SuperMario wroteCOLON
None of this is to mention, FOW even out, I gain HUGE in SHTOI, PIMS, HITS, BS, SOG, STPTS.
this makes me wonder.. are STPTS calculated like i think PPP+SHP or is it more like PPP+10*SHP?!
Re: CHI-PIT Blockbuster
PostedCOLON Sun Jun 13, 2010 10:35 am
by Shep
kyuss wroteCOLONSuperMario wroteCOLONim going to look like a genius at this point in time next year.
You would indeed if the highlighted part below will be proved right
SuperMario wroteCOLON
None of this is to mention, FOW even out, I gain HUGE in SHTOI, PIMS, HITS, BS, SOG, STPTS.
this makes me wonder.. are STPTS calculated like i think PPP+SHP or is it more like PPP+10*SHP?!
It's ppp + shp.
Re: CHI-PIT Blockbuster
PostedCOLON Sun Jun 13, 2010 12:42 pm
by Nick
i've always wanted it to be pppts + 2or5*shpts....LOL