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Re: FIRE SALE ready to go

PostedCOLON Sun Sep 05, 2010 5:03 pm
by MSP4LYFE
Kyuss wroteCOLONAs for not wanting to hurt the value of my block, it didn't seem to bother you too much before posting the aforementioned crap, lol.
I thought at least you were supposed to not try to deny what's so obvious: you are an ass.
Better an ass than a dumbass.
Kyuss wroteCOLONGodfrey is still a 22 yrs old and former 2nd rounder with a powerful shot.. if he didn't have problems to solve in his game he would never be available for a 5th..
Josh Godfrey's shot is not just powerful, it is elite, even at the NHL level, despite this incredible gift, Godfrey has spent the last two seasons in the ECHL, on the most offensive minde club in hockey no less (WSH), does that make sense to you? Even if you are not familiar with Godfrey's game, common sense should lead you to believe there is something severely wrong with the rest of his game.
Kyuss wroteCOLONif he can make it as a 3rd or 4th liner he will be more than worth a 4th/5th with the PIMs and Hits he brings. Wanna re-check the percentage of 5th rounders that make it to the NHL?
Absolutely, but as I pointed out above, the liklihood of him even making the NHL on a consistent basis are slim to none. Furthermore, PIMS at the junior level do not neccarilly translate at the NHL level, in fact they rarely do, it is even rarer for those numbers to translate when you project on one of the bottom two lines, and don't scrap consistently. Further consider that Foligno only hit the century mark in pims after his draft year, and it's easy to see why those numbers aren't likely to translate.

As for hits, there are no links showing how many he had, and since you live in Europe I highly doubt you watched him game in and game out like I have, leading me to believe you are full of shit.
Kyuss wroteCOLONYemelin is a 24 yrs old defenseman who was a regular on the Russian national team at the last worldchampionships, after enjoying a breakthrough playoff, something i doubt you know about.

http://en.khl.ru/statistics/168/?sectio ... 94&lang=en
22games 5goals 8assists +9, so much for not breaking even.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itnQ3rJ3S00 (sorry for the music)
and his physical game would be better suited for the NA game
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHwM0EhUzaY
Interesting that you would use YT videos to prove the strengths in Yemelins game, and by interesting I mean, LOL.

Fact of the matter is that he is 24 years old, playing in Russia and unsigned. Until that changes, his value is non-existant.
Kyuss wroteCOLONif a BBKL has room under the number limit and can wait for him, he could actually turn out to be a steal for a 3rd/4th.
For you maybe...
Kyuss wroteCOLONThat's your assumption.. and the Flames don't seem to have much better options in the lines as G.. i would just hold onto him if i don't get a 3rd.
In fact, as you may know, i refused a 4th for him a couple of hours ago..
who offered it? YOU :lol:
oh, and i'll underline Ortio belongs to your '"others" category you just wrote this about:
"But you know what, even though these guys look like busts, I will give you the benefit of the doubt on you're asking price, because you know what, most prospects bust, but the others are simply unacceptable..."
do i need to add anything on this?
Yes Mik, a 4th, not a 3rd, a 4th...One I project to be a late 4th (TBL), so it's actually closer to a 5th. The rest I can't comment on as I don't speak Italian.
Kyuss wroteCOLONat least you didn't insert in the "others" category the other guy you offered for (regner).
You have placed a legitimate asking price on Regner, hence why he is not mentioned above.
Kyuss wroteCOLONi picked him at 67, and received interest as soon as i selected him..
It's because he's a leaf. Had any other team selected him, you would have recieved no interest.
Kyuss wroteCOLONkinda hilarious that you bitch about a 7th, considering how much you give about your own 6th and 7th rounders during negotiations.
You know what's really funny? That you believe those two things have anything to do with one another.

Kyuss wroteCOLONagain.. But you know what, even though these guys look like busts, I will give you the benefit of the doubt on you're asking price, because you know what, most prospects bust, but the others are simply unacceptable...
yet even going by free assumptions that he won't get renewed, would be still worth what i asked for, a 5th. LOL
As I pointed out, the chances of him resigning are not high, therefore the risks outweigh the potential reward. This is a guy who could be out of the NHL picture for good after this season...5th Rounders are not valuable, you are right, but I will take a 5th with a chance of making the NHL, over a former pick who looks to be out of hockey for good.
Kyuss wroteCOLONlast time i checked, it happened quite often that guys had to make a name for himself in the AHL before getting an NHL chance.. :o
AND.. how many 6th rounders get contracts by NHL teams to begin with?
I'll give you that one.
Kyuss wroteCOLONi hope we can stop wasting our times over the crap you felt the need to post in this thread.
"We" aren't wasting our time, you are.

Re: FIRE SALE ready to go

PostedCOLON Sun Sep 05, 2010 5:52 pm
by kyuss
MSP4LYFE wroteCOLON
Kyuss wroteCOLONGodfrey is still a 22 yrs old and former 2nd rounder with a powerful shot.. if he didn't have problems to solve in his game he would never be available for a 5th..
Josh Godfrey's shot is not just powerful, it is elite, even at the NHL level, despite this incredible gift, Godfrey has spent the last two seasons in the ECHL, on the most offensive minde club in hockey no less (WSH), does that make sense to you? Even if you are not familiar with Godfrey's game, common sense should lead you to believe there is something severely wrong with the rest of his game.
would need to gain more accuracy on his shot before i would call it elite. Weird you didn't notice that, that makes me think you probably know his game less than me. And the problems he needs to overcome in his game are the reason why i'm asking for only a 5th.. not too hard to understand if you tried.
Absolutely, but as I pointed out above, the liklihood of him even making the NHL on a consistent basis are slim to none. Furthermore, PIMS at the junior level do not neccarilly translate at the NHL level, in fact they rarely do, it is even rarer for those numbers to translate when you project on one of the bottom two lines, and don't scrap consistently. Further consider that Foligno only hit the century mark in pims after his draft year, and it's easy to see why those numbers aren't likely to translate.
players not good enough to stick on skills alone often focuse on what they can do to get a spot..
As for hits, there are no links showing how many he had, and since you live in Europe I highly doubt you watched him game in and game out like I have, leading me to believe you are full of shit.
because i can not chat with people that see him play?
Interesting that you would use YT videos to prove the strengths in Yemelins game, and by interesting I mean, LOL
dude, i thought for someone who didn't know anything about him a couple of videos would be better than nothing :)
Yes Mik, a 4th, not a 3rd, a 4th...
yeah, cause when a you think a 4th is a fair offer, getting requested a 3rd is "simply unacceptable", LOL.
You have placed a legitimate asking price on Regner, hence why he is not mentioned above.
weird:
MSP4LYFE wroteCOLONAsking prices are too high, none of those players (save for the ones whos career in the NHL is over, I.E. Vorobiev) were picked as high as the selections you are demanding in return, I mean Olden for a 2nd...Really?
i thought none meant Regner was not exempt from your assholic rant (hey, i like this new word! not italian btw).
It's because he's a leaf. Had any other team selected him, you would have recieved no interest.
was he traded since?
You know what's really funny? That you believe those two things have anything to do with one another.
they do.. not sure why you can not come to terms with that.
5th Rounders are not valuable, you are right, but I will take a 5th with a chance of making the NHL, over a former pick who looks to be out of hockey for good.
lol, at the moment he only looks out of hockey to you, that's the point..
"We" aren't wasting our time, you are.
indeed, i'm learning nothing from this discussion, unlike you 8-)

so i'll try to stop here.

Re: FIRE SALE ready to go

PostedCOLON Sun Sep 05, 2010 5:55 pm
by kyuss
Raptactics wroteCOLONEveryone's heard them Mik.. not much makes me defensive, especially not things I say :)
the point was they can't listen us calling your biased theories what they are, garbage. So you see.. it would not be things you say, rather things i (or others) could say. :)

Re: FIRE SALE ready to go

PostedCOLON Sun Sep 05, 2010 5:56 pm
by Scott
kyuss wroteCOLON
Raptactics wroteCOLONEveryone's heard them Mik.. not much makes me defensive, especially not things I say :)
the point was they can't listen us calling your biased theories what they are, garbage. So you see.. it would not be things you say, rather things i (or others) could say. :)
I love you to Mik xoxo

Re: FIRE SALE ready to go

PostedCOLON Sun Sep 05, 2010 5:58 pm
by Mash
Shit just got real here folks!

Re: FIRE SALE ready to go

PostedCOLON Sun Sep 05, 2010 11:08 pm
by bma
I can't believe I read this whole thread.

Re: FIRE SALE ready to go

PostedCOLON Sun Sep 05, 2010 11:30 pm
by anton
lol

worst.firesale.ever.

Re: FIRE SALE ready to go

PostedCOLON Sun Sep 05, 2010 11:37 pm
by Mash
anton wroteCOLONlol

worst.firesale.ever.
First decent post in this thread!

Re: FIRE SALE ready to go

PostedCOLON Sun Sep 05, 2010 11:51 pm
by MSP4LYFE
I wrote two long ass replies to Kyuss, and both got deleted...I'm not writing it out a third time...

Re: FIRE SALE ready to go

PostedCOLON Mon Sep 20, 2010 1:42 pm
by kyuss
still need to cut the roster to get down to the limit, so it's time for me to sell off some prospects for just picks instead of looking to package them.

Even if these guys are far from being premier prospects, they still have more chances to contribute (and earlier) than your average pick in those rounds would have..

picks may be in 2011 or 2012, no problem.

Foligno, Marcus -for- 4th/5th

Blair Riley  -for- 6th

Mario Valery-Trabucco -for- 6th

Godfrey, Josh -for- 5th

Macias, Ray -for- 5th

Alexei, Yemelin -for- 3rd/4th

Regner, Brent -for- 3rd/early 4th



I will also add Sondre Olden, available for a 2nd.
Bump, with a couple of updates.

Trabucco has 14 pts in 13 games since joining TPS Turku. Has 2 goals in 2 games in SM-liiga, the top league in Finland.
http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=34070
The asking price is a 6th...

Godfrey notched 2 goals in the Caps only rookie game (4-3 win vs Flyers) i know of, and is currently attending Caps main camp.