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Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Sat Jun 18, 2016 1:06 pm
by bills09
Chris Johnston of sports net speculates that the leafs will offer Bernier+ for MAF
I personally would be very happy with this deal as MAF has been criminally underrated as of late and is still an elite goaltender.

Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Sat Jun 18, 2016 1:07 pm
by thom54
doesn't mean Vatanen isn't traded though, just means he's locked up.

Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Sat Jun 18, 2016 2:26 pm
by kyuss
bills09 wroteCOLONChris Johnston of sports net speculates that the leafs will offer Bernier+ for MAF
I personally would be very happy with this deal as MAF has been criminally underrated as of late and is still an elite goaltender.
Well for a non playoff team I can see the argument

Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Sat Jun 18, 2016 2:33 pm
by Bruyns
bills09 wroteCOLONChris Johnston of sports net speculates that the leafs will offer Bernier+ for MAF
I personally would be very happy with this deal as MAF has been criminally underrated as of late and is still an elite goaltender.
No thanks, unless it's 1 for 1 since they owe us after paying for Kessel's salary to win the cup there.

Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Sat Jun 18, 2016 2:56 pm
by CasperX22
Bruyns wroteCOLON
bills09 wroteCOLONChris Johnston of sports net speculates that the leafs will offer Bernier+ for MAF
I personally would be very happy with this deal as MAF has been criminally underrated as of late and is still an elite goaltender.
No thanks, unless it's 1 for 1 since they owe us after paying for Kessel's salary to win the cup there.
Seriously? Lol! Don't think Pittsburgh would even consider that unless a good portion of Bernier's salary is retained.

Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Sat Jun 18, 2016 3:02 pm
by Matthew
CasperX22 wroteCOLON
Bruyns wroteCOLON
bills09 wroteCOLONChris Johnston of sports net speculates that the leafs will offer Bernier+ for MAF
I personally would be very happy with this deal as MAF has been criminally underrated as of late and is still an elite goaltender.
No thanks, unless it's 1 for 1 since they owe us after paying for Kessel's salary to win the cup there.
Seriously? Lol! Don't think Pittsburgh would even consider that unless a good portion of Bernier's salary is retained.
Agreed. Otherwise there is not much point trading him. Need the cap space.

Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Sat Jun 18, 2016 3:04 pm
by Handsome&FairMike
^Agreed. No incentive to take on bernier's contract - can keep zatkoff for cheap and jarry's numbers were close to as good as murray's, so another promising tender there.. Could see the leafs trying it and keeping Bernier for the year, but doesn't make sense for a team rebuilding with a ton of kids. Other goalies will become available in the coming couple of years.

Edit: actually just looked at jarry's stats and they tailed off as the year went along. Still not bad.

Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Sat Jun 18, 2016 3:08 pm
by Bruyns
Wasn't serious that I thought the Pens would do it just don't want to pay up for Fleury. There will be a lot of good goalies available because of the upcoming expansion draft and the supply should be much higher than demand so no need to give up a lot in a trade.

Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Sat Jun 18, 2016 4:00 pm
by CasperX22
Bruyns wroteCOLONWasn't serious that I thought the Pens would do it just don't want to pay up for Fleury. There will be a lot of good goalies available because of the upcoming expansion draft and the supply should be much higher than demand so no need to give up a lot in a trade.
Not understanding the logic here. With adding more teams that will be taking goalies from existing teams wouldn't there be less viable goalies?

Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Sat Jun 18, 2016 4:04 pm
by Matthew
I believe his thought process is teams with 2 good goalies will be attempting to trade their 2nd goalie to teams with poor goaltending for future assets rather than simply lose a guy for free at expansion, alas anderson or vasilevsky, or at Louis tandem.

Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Sat Jun 18, 2016 4:12 pm
by Bruyns
Matthew wroteCOLONI believe his thought process is teams with 2 good goalies will be attempting to trade their 2nd goalie to teams with poor goaltending for future assets rather than simply lose a guy for free at expansion, alas anderson or vasilevsky, or at Louis tandem.
Correct

Pickard, Grubauer, Korpisalo, Andersen, Bishop, Elliott, Binnington, Varlamov, Subban are all probably on the market and the Leafs and Flames are the only two teams that don't seem set in goal. Fleury is better than some, but I don't think a goalie in his 30s making big money is the right direction for Toronto to go right now, maybe in a few years. I think the right play is to ride out the year with Bernier as we won't be a great team yet and let a goalie deal come to them from a team that needs/wants to move one. Lots of goalies don't seem elite and then go on to have good years and I think with Fleury you are paying more for name value.

Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Sun Jun 19, 2016 6:21 pm
by thom54

Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Mon Jun 20, 2016 9:14 am
by Shep
Bruyns wroteCOLON
Matthew wroteCOLONI believe his thought process is teams with 2 good goalies will be attempting to trade their 2nd goalie to teams with poor goaltending for future assets rather than simply lose a guy for free at expansion, alas anderson or vasilevsky, or at Louis tandem.
Correct

Pickard, Grubauer, Korpisalo, Andersen, Bishop, Elliott, Binnington, Varlamov, Subban are all probably on the market and the Leafs and Flames are the only two teams that don't seem set in goal. Fleury is better than some, but I don't think a goalie in his 30s making big money is the right direction for Toronto to go right now, maybe in a few years. I think the right play is to ride out the year with Bernier as we won't be a great team yet and let a goalie deal come to them from a team that needs/wants to move one. Lots of goalies don't seem elite and then go on to have good years and I think with Fleury you are paying more for name value.
Andersen, Elliott and Fleury would be the only goalies I'm interested in. If Leafs cannot acquire Andersen from the Ducks, than I am more than fine with Fleury. Just 3 years left on his deal, he's 31, the team needs stability from a veteran goaltender while we draft or acquire young up-and-coming goaltenders.

$5.75 for a starting goaltender is not big money any more. Fleury is still a top goaltender in the NHL.

The rumour is 2 2nds for Fleury being the likely cost.

Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Mon Jun 20, 2016 9:23 am
by The BBKL Insider
Shep wroteCOLON
Bruyns wroteCOLON
Matthew wroteCOLONI believe his thought process is teams with 2 good goalies will be attempting to trade their 2nd goalie to teams with poor goaltending for future assets rather than simply lose a guy for free at expansion, alas anderson or vasilevsky, or at Louis tandem.
Correct

Pickard, Grubauer, Korpisalo, Andersen, Bishop, Elliott, Binnington, Varlamov, Subban are all probably on the market and the Leafs and Flames are the only two teams that don't seem set in goal. Fleury is better than some, but I don't think a goalie in his 30s making big money is the right direction for Toronto to go right now, maybe in a few years. I think the right play is to ride out the year with Bernier as we won't be a great team yet and let a goalie deal come to them from a team that needs/wants to move one. Lots of goalies don't seem elite and then go on to have good years and I think with Fleury you are paying more for name value.
Andersen, Elliott and Fleury would be the only goalies I'm interested in. If Leafs cannot acquire Andersen from the Ducks, than I am more than fine with Fleury. Just 3 years left on his deal, he's 31, the team needs stability from a veteran goaltender while we draft or acquire young up-and-coming goaltenders.

$5.75 for a starting goaltender is not big money any more. Fleury is still a top goaltender in the NHL.

The rumour is 2 2nds for Fleury being the likely cost.
I actually think the leafs need some stability back there also, it makes it more attractive for UFAs when you have a quality goalie. I'd be fine with the 31st pick straight for Fluery.

I'd also draft Hart at 30, he should be ready when Fleury is a UFA.

Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Mon Jun 20, 2016 10:01 am
by dave1959
good...I can't stand Stroumbowhateverthefuckhisnameis

Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Mon Jun 20, 2016 10:04 am
by The BBKL Insider
dave1959 wroteCOLONgood...I can't stand Stroumbowhateverthefuckhisnameis
He was brought in to attract a younger audience, all it did was piss off the older folks. Ratings dropped off pretty bad under Strombo

I personally didn't mind him, he didn't do an awful job, he just isn't a good fit for HNIC.

Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Mon Jun 20, 2016 10:08 am
by thom54
i don't think the ratings had anything to do with Strombo. Shitty hockey teams in big canadian markets sink that.

I liked him, love Ron.

But the fact that they keep fucking Hrudey and the other idiots (won't say his fucking name) ... that's frustrating.

Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Mon Jun 20, 2016 10:21 am
by The BBKL Insider
thom54 wroteCOLONi don't think the ratings had anything to do with Strombo. Shitty hockey teams in big canadian markets sink that.

I liked him, love Ron.

But the fact that they keep fucking Hrudey and the other idiots (won't say his fucking name) ... that's frustrating.
I actually agree with this. Bad hockey teams in Montreal and Toronto can kill the NHL and it's ratings. If the leafs and habs are cruising the NHL ratings are up.

Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Mon Jun 20, 2016 12:35 pm
by Nick
I never felt like strombo added much, just not a hockey guy and it shows.


I like Kyperos, don't mind Elliot, but the goalies gotta go. they are hard to listen to.

Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Mon Jun 20, 2016 12:43 pm
by bills09
I hope Strombo stays on just not in that role.