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Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Fri May 05, 2017 7:42 am
by Matthew
Oh cmon, guys. It's nicks player.

Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Fri May 05, 2017 7:55 am
by dave1959

Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Fri May 05, 2017 7:57 am
by dave1959
I guess as long as he gets him before the next waiver draft...

Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Fri May 05, 2017 7:58 am
by Sensfanjosh
Matthew wroteCOLONOh cmon, guys. It's nicks player.
If this is the precedent we want, whats the stop everyone from 'owning' players not on their sheets and only claiming them once they make the NHL?

Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Fri May 05, 2017 8:05 am
by Bruyns
dave1959 wroteCOLONviewtopic.php?f=7&t=13748&p=255065&hili ... re#p255065


there is a precedent.

CC thread so not all can see, but it was Sean Macguire who Hong never claimed on Fantrax and listed on his roster submission every year but spelled his name wrong. Ruling was not Hong's player due to never claiming on Fantrax.

Really don't like taking a valuable player from a team and wish Nick had him on one of Fantrax or Googledocs at least so there was a record of his ownership. Also really changes the value of that waiver pick Steve just traded if he was under the impression Ship was already owned which was my assumption.

Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Fri May 05, 2017 8:10 am
by thom54
Shep wroteCOLON
thom54 wroteCOLONthere are almost 0 top 4 RHD on the market this year as UFA.
This is the only reason that I am not 100% hateful of the contract.

Top 4 RHD are the rarest commodity right now in the NHL. Leafs have one in Zaitsev and zero in the Marlies with a future on this team. Going from needing one to needing two would be real bad.

The dollars aren't the end of the world. 5x5 would have been much preferred, but seven years is still scary, regardless of there being ways to get out of the deal. That's bad business to just be like "after five years we will just waive him and he can go to Russia. It's why Toronto, while soon to be a destination people want to come to, they also hesitate because of what has happened with Robidas island.
100% agree

Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Fri May 05, 2017 8:26 am
by hong57
Bruyns wroteCOLON
dave1959 wroteCOLONviewtopic.php?f=7&t=13748&p=255065&hili ... re#p255065


there is a precedent.

CC thread so not all can see, but it was Sean Macguire who Hong never claimed on Fantrax and listed on his roster submission every year but spelled his name wrong. Ruling was not Hong's player due to never claiming on Fantrax.

Really don't like taking a valuable player from a team and wish Nick had him on one of Fantrax or Googledocs at least so there was a record of his ownership. Also really changes the value of that waiver pick Steve just traded if he was under the impression Ship was already owned which was my assumption.
i knew it would be my case =.=

Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Fri May 05, 2017 8:42 am
by Handsome&FairMike
I feel like nick has until waiver draft to add him on fantrax. Just so happened that shipachyov's name came up again in the news that helps him out. But you're right. We should be on top of this shit. Maybe even institute a rule that waiver claims/draft picks must be processed on fantrax within 6-8 weeks or else the player is exposed. Really no excuse for not adding pieces you drafted.

Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Fri May 05, 2017 8:53 am
by kimmer
Simon Desores making a comeback

Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Fri May 05, 2017 8:54 am
by Matthew
kimmer wroteCOLONSimon Desores making a comeback
I'll give u a 3rd for him.

Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Fri May 05, 2017 8:55 am
by lightupdadarkness
Where is vegas slotting in the waiver draft?

Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Fri May 05, 2017 8:56 am
by Matthew
3rd, I believe.

Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Fri May 05, 2017 8:57 am
by foofnik
Our waiver draft uses reverse standings after GP adjustments right? Not using lottery results?

So basically I'm picking 8 and not 3?

Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Fri May 05, 2017 8:59 am
by Matthew
I don't believe it takes into account gp adjustment. I actually just brought this up in cc that in the future it should, before I read your comment haha.

But if we wanted to start it this year Pitt Mike owns 1&2 either way, so I would be the only one sliding back in reality, and I'm okay with that for the sake of getting this done properly.

Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Fri May 05, 2017 9:08 am
by Lee
Handsome&FairMike wroteCOLONI feel like nick has until waiver draft to add him on fantrax. Just so happened that shipachyov's name came up again in the news that helps him out. But you're right. We should be on top of this shit. Maybe even institute a rule that waiver claims/draft picks must be processed on fantrax within 6-8 weeks or else the player is exposed. Really no excuse for not adding pieces you drafted.

How does that make sense? He wasn't included on his roster submission.

Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Fri May 05, 2017 9:32 am
by foofnik
Matthew wroteCOLONI don't believe it takes into account gp adjustment. I actually just brought this up in cc that in the future it should, before I read your comment haha.

But if we wanted to start it this year Pitt Mike owns 1&2 either way, so I would be the only one sliding back in reality, and I'm okay with that for the sake of getting this done properly.
Would make no sense to not include GP adjustment, as the entire purpose of it is to adjust standings.

Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Fri May 05, 2017 9:40 am
by Handsome&FairMike
foofnik wroteCOLON
Matthew wroteCOLONI don't believe it takes into account gp adjustment. I actually just brought this up in cc that in the future it should, before I read your comment haha.

But if we wanted to start it this year Pitt Mike owns 1&2 either way, so I would be the only one sliding back in reality, and I'm okay with that for the sake of getting this done properly.
Would make no sense to not include GP adjustment, as the entire purpose of it is to adjust standings.
Agree! And I own the top two???

Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Fri May 05, 2017 9:41 am
by Handsome&FairMike
Lee wroteCOLON
Handsome&FairMike wroteCOLONI feel like nick has until waiver draft to add him on fantrax. Just so happened that shipachyov's name came up again in the news that helps him out. But you're right. We should be on top of this shit. Maybe even institute a rule that waiver claims/draft picks must be processed on fantrax within 6-8 weeks or else the player is exposed. Really no excuse for not adding pieces you drafted.

How does that make sense? He wasn't included on his roster submission.
Yes but no one claimed him when he could have been claimed. So I argue nick has the opportunity to take him again. But maybe it's just me.

Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Fri May 05, 2017 9:44 am
by Lee
he couldnt be claimed because he didnt have a contract. the only way to get non contracted players is the entry draft and waiver draft.

Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Fri May 05, 2017 10:09 am
by CAM
I think Lee is right here. There has been precedence already set with respect to this issue. People have gained and lost players due to this. Roster submission is pretty serious and the one thing that you best be triple checking. The Google doc is i believe is the still the god document, correct?