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Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours
PostedCOLON Thu Nov 30, 2017 2:07 pm
by KapG
That's sad
Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours
PostedCOLON Thu Nov 30, 2017 2:09 pm
by Matthew
This may sound bad, but at least it gets the Canucks out of that contract.
Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours
PostedCOLON Thu Nov 30, 2017 2:28 pm
by Matthew
Only person this deal may look bad for is Lee...
Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours
PostedCOLON Thu Nov 30, 2017 2:32 pm
by Lee
?
Lindholm gets more icetime
Coleman gets more ice time
Severson is better younger and cheaper than Vatanen.
Plus Marcus Petterson may finally get that callup that he deserves
Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours
PostedCOLON Thu Nov 30, 2017 2:36 pm
by Matthew
I was just thinking Severson gets humped off pp by vatanen. Butcher one pp1 and vatanen on pp2.
Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours
PostedCOLON Thu Nov 30, 2017 2:36 pm
by Matthew
Bumped*
Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours
PostedCOLON Thu Nov 30, 2017 2:44 pm
by Lee
Only time will tell I guess. Neither have been particularly effective on the PP this year while Severson is better historically at a younger age.
Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours
PostedCOLON Thu Nov 30, 2017 2:46 pm
by Matthew
Lee wroteCOLONOnly time will tell I guess. Neither have been particularly effective on the PP this year while Severson is better historically at a younger age.
Bolded is very true. Assuming coaches will make specific choices is a fools game. Something I've learned the hard way a few times.
Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours
PostedCOLON Thu Nov 30, 2017 3:39 pm
by kyuss
Lee wroteCOLON?
Lindholm gets more icetime
Coleman gets more ice time
Severson is better younger and cheaper than Vatanen.
Plus Marcus Petterson may finally get that callup that he deserves
not sure what Pettersson did to deserve a callup.. especially when Vatanen was dealt because they were stacked on D, it's not like they need to fill a void. They still have 4 right-handed defensemen in Manson, Bieksa, Montour and Holzer.
And personally I'd expect Severson's icetime to go down, but we'll see about that
Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours
PostedCOLON Thu Nov 30, 2017 3:44 pm
by Lee
Well that's nice considering Pettersson is a LHD?
Holzer isn't exactly some great player either...
Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours
PostedCOLON Thu Nov 30, 2017 4:11 pm
by kyuss
thought he was RHD!
Still don't see him called up without injuries with Lindholm, Fowler, Beauchemin and Jacob Larsson ahead of him on the left side
Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours
PostedCOLON Thu Nov 30, 2017 4:11 pm
by Arian The Insider
Sucks for Dorsett
Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours
PostedCOLON Thu Nov 30, 2017 4:25 pm
by thom54
correct call ... lemme say the obvious ... you don't want a spinal cord injury
Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours
PostedCOLON Thu Nov 30, 2017 6:34 pm
by KapG
Severson being better than Sami vatanen is debateable
Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours
PostedCOLON Thu Nov 30, 2017 7:07 pm
by Lee
He is 3 years younger and is out producing him by almost every measurable metric. Sami PKs and that's about all he has over Severson.
Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours
PostedCOLON Thu Nov 30, 2017 7:18 pm
by Lee
And rather that unsubstantianted opinion, here are some statistics.
Season 1 for each player:
http://hkref.com/tiny/nvif2
S2
http://hkref.com/tiny/fc4e3
S3:
http://hkref.com/tiny/E0eFU
Now. Keep in mind that Severson was in the NHL at a younger age than Sami. Let's compare numbers by age.
Age 21:
http://hkref.com/tiny/T92Zn
Age 22:
http://hkref.com/tiny/AJdb6
Severson is currently 23 so it's not fair to compare full season stats to 23 games.
Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours
PostedCOLON Thu Nov 30, 2017 7:33 pm
by Matthew
Nice way to put it. The only thing one may want to remember though is that severson was also on a team that needed to use him a lot more. Vatanen didn't necessarily get the same opportunities given how many dmen Anaheim has/had.
Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours
PostedCOLON Thu Nov 30, 2017 8:00 pm
by Lee
by the same token, Severson was put in more high pressure situations while Vatanen was more sheltered.
Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours
PostedCOLON Thu Nov 30, 2017 8:26 pm
by KapG
All I saw with those comparisons was better numbers for vatanen? That's not even including the PK and other periphs vatanen has on Severson.
Matthew is also right with regards to the ice time Severson saw.
It's not a slight on Severson but vatanen is the better player...
He's coming off shoulder surgery too iirc so this years numbers are most definitely not going to be in his favour
Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours
PostedCOLON Thu Nov 30, 2017 8:38 pm
by hong57
hope dorsett will have a wonderful life after hockey