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Re: 1st/2nd Overall Connor McDavid/Jack Eichel

PostedCOLON Sat Mar 21, 2015 10:33 am
by bills09
I'd sell that pick for a huge return with multiple assets similar to matts offer if I was in Dallas position

Re: 1st/2nd Overall Connor McDavid/Jack Eichel

PostedCOLON Sat Mar 21, 2015 10:51 am
by CAM
bills09 wroteCOLONI'd sell that pick for a huge return with multiple assets similar to matts offer if I was in Dallas position
Agree. That one pick could remake that roster with some of the offers made. The gamble is do i sell before lottery or after.

Re: 1st/2nd Overall Connor McDavid/Jack Eichel

PostedCOLON Sat Mar 21, 2015 12:44 pm
by lightupdadarkness
Fraser wroteCOLON
The BBKL Insider wroteCOLONNo offer would ever tempt me to move that pick unless it was crosby+.

None the less that was a good offer by matt, which is probably the first time any of us has said that.
Seems a bit extreme for a pick that has an 80% shot of not being Connor Mcdavid
I actually have greater odds to win the first overall than in previous years only slight but still greater..........So you're telling me that I have greater odds at Fucking Kate Upton than I did last year.......I'm taking it!.........You're tell me there's a chance!

Re: 1st/2nd Overall Connor McDavid/Jack Eichel

PostedCOLON Sat Mar 21, 2015 2:25 pm
by The BBKL Insider
Kate upton is definitely decent looking

Re: 1st/2nd Overall Connor McDavid/Jack Eichel

PostedCOLON Sat Mar 21, 2015 6:11 pm
by kyuss
The BBKL Insider wroteCOLONKate upton is definitely decent looking
Image

decent indeed.

Re: 1st/2nd Overall Connor McDavid/Jack Eichel

PostedCOLON Sat Mar 21, 2015 6:32 pm
by lightupdadarkness
Idk what yall's definition of decent looking is but I'm willing to see your decent and raise it to fine as hell

Re: 1st/2nd Overall Connor McDavid/Jack Eichel

PostedCOLON Sat Mar 21, 2015 7:38 pm
by Lee
I'd let her eat a baloney Sammich in bed.

Re: 1st/2nd Overall Connor McDavid/Jack Eichel

PostedCOLON Sat Mar 21, 2015 7:46 pm
by Nick
That is not a bikini.

Re: 1st/2nd Overall Connor McDavid/Jack Eichel

PostedCOLON Sat Mar 21, 2015 7:56 pm
by Shep
I'll wait to pay up until this is confirmed the 1st overall pick.

Re: 1st/2nd Overall Connor McDavid/Jack Eichel

PostedCOLON Sat Mar 21, 2015 8:00 pm
by Fraser
lightupdadarkness wroteCOLON
Fraser wroteCOLON
The BBKL Insider wroteCOLONNo offer would ever tempt me to move that pick unless it was crosby+.

None the less that was a good offer by matt, which is probably the first time any of us has said that.
Seems a bit extreme for a pick that has an 80% shot of not being Connor Mcdavid
I actually have greater odds to win the first overall than in previous years only slight but still greater..........So you're telling me that I have greater odds at Fucking Kate Upton than I did last year.......I'm taking it!.........You're tell me there's a chance!
Isn't the opposite of that true? Dropping from 25% to 20%?

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=728795

Re: 1st/2nd Overall Connor McDavid/Jack Eichel

PostedCOLON Sat Mar 21, 2015 8:09 pm
by lightupdadarkness
They dropped across the board from previous years so this year I can only drop to 2nd at worst........previous odds were +6.2 but now are +6.5. They took the from the top heavy and sprinkle it around very little throughout. In this year I only can drop one spot next year is the top 3 that are in play. So yes the bottom teams have very slight advantage from previous years but in theory my competition is the next team with the greatest odds in the lottery and the law of averages. Get me?

Re: 1st/2nd Overall Connor McDavid/Jack Eichel

PostedCOLON Sat Mar 21, 2015 8:17 pm
by lightupdadarkness
Anybody know off hand when 2017 picks come available for trade?

Re: 1st/2nd Overall Connor McDavid/Jack Eichel

PostedCOLON Sat Mar 21, 2015 8:26 pm
by Shep
lightupdadarkness wroteCOLONAnybody know off hand when 2017 picks come available for trade?
once our 2015 draft is over.

Re: 1st/2nd Overall Connor McDavid/Jack Eichel

PostedCOLON Sat Mar 21, 2015 8:27 pm
by lightupdadarkness
Shep wroteCOLON
lightupdadarkness wroteCOLONAnybody know off hand when 2017 picks come available for trade?
once our 2015 draft is over.
Thank you sir

Re: 1st/2nd Overall Connor McDavid/Jack Eichel

PostedCOLON Sat Mar 21, 2015 9:27 pm
by Fraser
lightupdadarkness wroteCOLONThey dropped across the board from previous years so this year I can only drop to 2nd at worst........previous odds were +6.2 but now are +6.5. They took the from the top heavy and sprinkle it around very little throughout. In this year I only can drop one spot next year is the top 3 that are in play. So yes the bottom teams have very slight advantage from previous years but in theory my competition is the next team with the greatest odds in the lottery and the law of averages. Get me?
I don't have tons of experience with gambling odds, so I'm probably missing something here. But when the 1st overall pick disperses some of its chances to win the lottery to the field, how exactly does that increase the odds of the 1st overall pick to win the lottery?

Re: 1st/2nd Overall Connor McDavid/Jack Eichel

PostedCOLON Sat Mar 21, 2015 9:57 pm
by lightupdadarkness
Fraser wroteCOLON
lightupdadarkness wroteCOLONThey dropped across the board from previous years so this year I can only drop to 2nd at worst........previous odds were +6.2 but now are +6.5. They took the from the top heavy and sprinkle it around very little throughout. In this year I only can drop one spot next year is the top 3 that are in play. So yes the bottom teams have very slight advantage from previous years but in theory my competition is the next team with the greatest odds in the lottery and the law of averages. Get me?
I don't have tons of experience with gambling odds, so I'm probably missing something here. But when the 1st overall pick disperses some of its chances to win the lottery to the field, how exactly does that increase the odds of the 1st overall pick to win the lottery?
Bc you are looking at it as it has an 80% chance of not being first b/c they have sprinkled some odds further down as opposed to the previous 75% but in doing so they have slightly increased the odds of the worst team winning the lotto. For simplicity sake: So last year I would have had 6.2% more balls in the lotto than the next closest team(2nd team) and now this year I'm at 6.5 % so I have a positive net gain of .2%. They took some from the worst team but more from the others. So do other lower teams have a slightly better chance than previous yes they do but so do I. That 5% you are looking at being spread out in the lower tier as opposed to the top. So for example the bottom team gain half a percent but I gain on my biggest competition which is the 2nd worst team overall. So yes the bottom team get a little more but so did I over my biggest competition. Hopefully that helps explain in an easier way I was trying to say. Also You don't honestly believe the NHL doesn't have a hand in this do you? lol

Re: 1st/2nd Overall Connor McDavid/Jack Eichel

PostedCOLON Sat Mar 21, 2015 10:02 pm
by CasperX22
lightupdadarkness wroteCOLONIdk what yall's definition of decent looking is but I'm willing to see your decent and raise it to fine as hell
She's pretty decent lol!

Re: 1st/2nd Overall Connor McDavid/Jack Eichel

PostedCOLON Sat Mar 21, 2015 10:04 pm
by CasperX22
Fraser wroteCOLON
The BBKL Insider wroteCOLONNo offer would ever tempt me to move that pick unless it was crosby+.

None the less that was a good offer by matt, which is probably the first time any of us has said that.
Seems a bit extreme for a pick that has an 80% shot of not being Connor Mcdavid
Do people honestly believe there is that huge of a gap between McDavid and Eichel?

Re: 1st/2nd Overall Connor McDavid/Jack Eichel

PostedCOLON Sat Mar 21, 2015 10:06 pm
by CasperX22
And fuck it. Corey Perry+1st

Re: 1st/2nd Overall Connor McDavid/Jack Eichel

PostedCOLON Sat Mar 21, 2015 10:28 pm
by Fraser
lightupdadarkness wroteCOLON
Fraser wroteCOLON
lightupdadarkness wroteCOLONThey dropped across the board from previous years so this year I can only drop to 2nd at worst........previous odds were +6.2 but now are +6.5. They took the from the top heavy and sprinkle it around very little throughout. In this year I only can drop one spot next year is the top 3 that are in play. So yes the bottom teams have very slight advantage from previous years but in theory my competition is the next team with the greatest odds in the lottery and the law of averages. Get me?
I don't have tons of experience with gambling odds, so I'm probably missing something here. But when the 1st overall pick disperses some of its chances to win the lottery to the field, how exactly does that increase the odds of the 1st overall pick to win the lottery?
Bc you are looking at it as it has an 80% chance of not being first b/c they have sprinkled some odds further down as opposed to the previous 75% but in doing so they have slightly increased the odds of the worst team winning the lotto. For simplicity sake: So last year I would have had 6.2% more balls in the lotto than the next closest team(2nd team) and now this year I'm at 6.5 % so I have a positive net gain of .2%. They took some from the worst team but more from the others. So do other lower teams have a slightly better chance than previous yes they do but so do I. That 5% you are looking at being spread out in the lower tier as opposed to the top. So for example the bottom team gain half a percent but I gain on my biggest competition which is the 2nd worst team overall. So yes the bottom team get a little more but so did I over my biggest competition. Hopefully that helps explain in an easier way I was trying to say. Also You don't honestly believe the NHL doesn't have a hand in this do you? lol
Alright I now understand what you are saying, but I still don't really understand how it is relevant when the overall goal is obviously to win the lottery. Sure you may have a .2% better chance of winning the lottery in comparison to the #2 seed alone, but you aren't just competing against #2 to win the lottery its all non-playoff teams that you have to take in consideration. What it boils down to is your odds of winning have gotten worse this year opposed to others overall, which is a point Im fairly sure we agree on. Isolating the "top lottery contenders" alone it may make your situation look more favourable, but that isn't the reality of the lottery that is going to take place.