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Re: WJC Talk

PostedCOLON Sat Dec 26, 2015 3:42 pm
by CasperX22
Handsome&FairMike wroteCOLONNot a big fan of the crop of defensemen. Usually Canada's strong point, but can't say they were very impressive today. Also, glad blackwood back after game 2. MacDonald was pretty meh; really struggles with point shots - D need to clear the front better, but still, not solid goaltending.
Maybe Hicketts and Fluery shouldn't be deflecting the puck into their own net :lol:

Re: WJC Talk

PostedCOLON Sat Dec 26, 2015 3:43 pm
by Arian The Insider
CasperX22 wroteCOLON
Arian The Insider wroteCOLONSelf-sabotage
Canada is so full of their own shit.
I found Lowry played the wrong guys at points in the game. Hicketts also has to trust his goalie on that and not think he's going to stop a puck in the air with his stick. USA deserved to win, but we killed ourselves at times and didn't capitalize on the chances we had.

Re: WJC Talk

PostedCOLON Sat Dec 26, 2015 3:45 pm
by CasperX22
Arian The Insider wroteCOLON
CasperX22 wroteCOLON
Arian The Insider wroteCOLONSelf-sabotage
Canada is so full of their own shit.
I found Lowry played the wrong guys at points in the game. Hicketts also has to trust his goalie on that and not think he's going to stop a puck in the air with his stick. USA deserved to win, but we killed ourselves at times and didn't capitalize on the chances we had.
Really this win belongs to Ned. USA was badly outplayed in the 1st 2 periods and Ned made a ton of big saves. USA really put it on Canada in the 3rd.

Re: WJC Talk

PostedCOLON Sat Dec 26, 2015 3:47 pm
by Arian The Insider
CasperX22 wroteCOLON
Arian The Insider wroteCOLON
CasperX22 wroteCOLON
Arian The Insider wroteCOLONSelf-sabotage
Canada is so full of their own shit.
I found Lowry played the wrong guys at points in the game. Hicketts also has to trust his goalie on that and not think he's going to stop a puck in the air with his stick. USA deserved to win, but we killed ourselves at times and didn't capitalize on the chances we had.
Really this win belongs to Ned. USA was badly outplayed in the 1st 2 periods and Ned made a ton of big saves. USA really put it on Canada in the 3rd.
I agree. Surprised he didn't win player of the game, even though White and especially Werenski were great. Canada has to be better and play to their abilities which is what I was getting at. I have a bad feeling that we don't make the gold medal game this year though.

Re: WJC Talk

PostedCOLON Sat Dec 26, 2015 3:49 pm
by Sensfanjosh
Im still not sold on McDonald either though he wasn't the reason Canada lost today. Also excited that pastarnk is apparently being sent to play for the Czechs with zacha

Re: WJC Talk

PostedCOLON Sat Dec 26, 2015 3:49 pm
by CasperX22
Arian The Insider wroteCOLON
CasperX22 wroteCOLON
Arian The Insider wroteCOLON
CasperX22 wroteCOLON
Arian The Insider wroteCOLONSelf-sabotage
Canada is so full of their own shit.
I found Lowry played the wrong guys at points in the game. Hicketts also has to trust his goalie on that and not think he's going to stop a puck in the air with his stick. USA deserved to win, but we killed ourselves at times and didn't capitalize on the chances we had.
Really this win belongs to Ned. USA was badly outplayed in the 1st 2 periods and Ned made a ton of big saves. USA really put it on Canada in the 3rd.
I agree. Surprised he didn't win player of the game, even though White and especially Werenski were great. Canada has to be better and play to their abilities which is what I was getting at. I have a bad feeling that we don't make the gold medal game this year though.
Well Finland and Sweeden I would say are the favorites, so not making the gold medal for a change shouldn't be all that disappointing.

Re: WJC Talk

PostedCOLON Sat Dec 26, 2015 3:51 pm
by CasperX22
Sensfanjosh wroteCOLONIm still not sold on McDonald either though he wasn't the reason Canada lost today. Also excited that pastarnk is apparently being sent to play for the Czechs with zacha
'

McDonald played a strong game minus the Werenski goal. 2 of the goals were literally on his own defenders deflecting the puck by him. The Werenski goal he needs to stay on his feet longer. No chance on a high shot like that if you go down early.

Re: WJC Talk

PostedCOLON Sat Dec 26, 2015 3:51 pm
by Arian The Insider
CasperX22 wroteCOLONWell Finland and Sweeden I would say are the favorites, so not making the gold medal for a change shouldn't be all that disappointing.
It is when you're Canadian ;) . I just don't like our roster all that much this year.

Re: WJC Talk

PostedCOLON Sat Dec 26, 2015 3:53 pm
by Sensfanjosh
No I agree today just looking at all I've seen of him going back to pre tourney he just just doesn't look as comfortable or in control as Blackwood does to me

Re: WJC Talk

PostedCOLON Sat Dec 26, 2015 3:54 pm
by Lee
Canada won't win this year. Not enough talent.

Re: WJC Talk

PostedCOLON Sat Dec 26, 2015 3:55 pm
by CasperX22
Arian The Insider wroteCOLON
CasperX22 wroteCOLONWell Finland and Sweeden I would say are the favorites, so not making the gold medal for a change shouldn't be all that disappointing.
It is when you're Canadian ;) . I just don't like our roster all that much this year.
Lines need to be shaken up. How Konecny is still playing on the 3rd line is beyond me.

Re: WJC Talk

PostedCOLON Sat Dec 26, 2015 3:56 pm
by CasperX22
Sensfanjosh wroteCOLONNo I agree today just looking at all I've seen of him going back to pre tourney he just just doesn't look as comfortable or in control as Blackwood does to me
Well, Blackwood is the #1, so I would hope Blackwood looks more comfortable.

Re: WJC Talk

PostedCOLON Sat Dec 26, 2015 4:01 pm
by Handsome&FairMike
CasperX22 wroteCOLON
Sensfanjosh wroteCOLONIm still not sold on McDonald either though he wasn't the reason Canada lost today. Also excited that pastarnk is apparently being sent to play for the Czechs with zacha
'

McDonald played a strong game minus the Werenski goal. 2 of the goals were literally on his own defenders deflecting the puck by him. The Werenski goal he needs to stay on his feet longer. No chance on a high shot like that if you go down early.
Spoken exactly like someone whose never played goal lol. Nothing to do with staying on his feet longer. He was screened pretty bad on that one. Needs to clearly be more aggressive on his angles though, as this game plus the Sweden game is really showing his deficiencies. Interesting thing is D-men are taking way fewer clappers (both in the NHL and juniors) which makes life way harder as a goalie because you can't hear the shot... and if you can't also see it you better hope someone is blocking it or you have your angles spot on.

Was really interesting seeing Nedeljkovic's style though. Never seen him play before. Stays upright way longer than most - a la brodeur. Kind of refreshing to see.

Re: WJC Talk

PostedCOLON Sat Dec 26, 2015 4:02 pm
by Handsome&FairMike
Lee wroteCOLONCanada won't win this year. Not enough talent.
I think Blackwood + the Strome line could be enough. They really dominated I thought.

Overall I think they were just being too cute. Trying to score the pretty 4 pass goal instead of letting it rip when they were in prime shooting position and banging in some garbage. I think they'll come around on that. Not too concerned.

But agreed - this definitely isn't one of the best teams we've sent over. Plus no home ice advantage.

Re: WJC Talk

PostedCOLON Sat Dec 26, 2015 4:05 pm
by CasperX22
Handsome&FairMike wroteCOLON
CasperX22 wroteCOLON
Sensfanjosh wroteCOLONIm still not sold on McDonald either though he wasn't the reason Canada lost today. Also excited that pastarnk is apparently being sent to play for the Czechs with zacha
'

McDonald played a strong game minus the Werenski goal. 2 of the goals were literally on his own defenders deflecting the puck by him. The Werenski goal he needs to stay on his feet longer. No chance on a high shot like that if you go down early.
Spoken exactly like someone whose never played goal lol. Nothing to do with staying on his feet longer. He was screened pretty bad on that one. Needs to clearly be more aggressive on his angles though, as this game plus the Sweden game is really showing his deficiencies. Interesting thing is D-men are taking way fewer clappers (both in the NHL and juniors) which makes life way harder as a goalie because you can't hear the shot... and if you can't also see it you better hope someone is blocking it or you have your angles spot on.

Was really interesting seeing Nedeljkovic's style though. Never seen him play before. Stays upright way longer than most - a la brodeur. Kind of refreshing to see.
So let me see if I have this right. It's not his fault that he went down early? Yes he was screened, but he didn't help himself out by going down to the ice before the puck is even released from the point.

Re: WJC Talk

PostedCOLON Sat Dec 26, 2015 4:07 pm
by lightupdadarkness
F Dylan Strome (Canada)
G Mason McDonald (Canada)
G Alex Nedeljkovic (USA)
F Nick Schmaltz (USA)
G Mackenzie Blackwood (Canada)
G Linus Soderstrom (Sweden)
F Rourke Chartier (Canada)
F Timo Meier (Switzerland)

Re: WJC Talk

PostedCOLON Sat Dec 26, 2015 4:10 pm
by lightupdadarkness
Canada def outplayed the US for most of the game IMO. Ned kept them in it till they could get some dirty goals. Your D definitely didn't help out Mason with screening him and deflecting pucks. Sloppy play on both ends but being that this was a rivalry game emotions were amped up. Long way to go for both teams

Re: WJC Talk

PostedCOLON Sat Dec 26, 2015 4:22 pm
by Handsome&FairMike
CasperX22 wroteCOLON
Handsome&FairMike wroteCOLON
CasperX22 wroteCOLON
Sensfanjosh wroteCOLONIm still not sold on McDonald either though he wasn't the reason Canada lost today. Also excited that pastarnk is apparently being sent to play for the Czechs with zacha
'

McDonald played a strong game minus the Werenski goal. 2 of the goals were literally on his own defenders deflecting the puck by him. The Werenski goal he needs to stay on his feet longer. No chance on a high shot like that if you go down early.
Spoken exactly like someone whose never played goal lol. Nothing to do with staying on his feet longer. He was screened pretty bad on that one. Needs to clearly be more aggressive on his angles though, as this game plus the Sweden game is really showing his deficiencies. Interesting thing is D-men are taking way fewer clappers (both in the NHL and juniors) which makes life way harder as a goalie because you can't hear the shot... and if you can't also see it you better hope someone is blocking it or you have your angles spot on.

Was really interesting seeing Nedeljkovic's style though. Never seen him play before. Stays upright way longer than most - a la brodeur. Kind of refreshing to see.
So let me see if I have this right. It's not his fault that he went down early? Yes he was screened, but he didn't help himself out by going down to the ice before the puck is even released from the point.
You can easily make that save on your feet or on your knees. If you play butterfly that's fine, you just can't be doing that on your goal line, especially if you're reflexes aren't your strong suit. I agree staying up longer would be my preference too but they key point is his angles and his skill at seeing around the screen... whether that's getting low (like Johnny Quick) or staying upright and looking over and around (like most other tenders).

Sorry if I seem sensitive haha but pet peeve is people commenting on goaltending when they've never played at a competitive level... end rant.

Re: WJC Talk

PostedCOLON Sat Dec 26, 2015 4:27 pm
by CasperX22
Handsome&FairMike wroteCOLON
CasperX22 wroteCOLON
Handsome&FairMike wroteCOLON
CasperX22 wroteCOLON
Sensfanjosh wroteCOLONIm still not sold on McDonald either though he wasn't the reason Canada lost today. Also excited that pastarnk is apparently being sent to play for the Czechs with zacha
'

McDonald played a strong game minus the Werenski goal. 2 of the goals were literally on his own defenders deflecting the puck by him. The Werenski goal he needs to stay on his feet longer. No chance on a high shot like that if you go down early.
Spoken exactly like someone whose never played goal lol. Nothing to do with staying on his feet longer. He was screened pretty bad on that one. Needs to clearly be more aggressive on his angles though, as this game plus the Sweden game is really showing his deficiencies. Interesting thing is D-men are taking way fewer clappers (both in the NHL and juniors) which makes life way harder as a goalie because you can't hear the shot... and if you can't also see it you better hope someone is blocking it or you have your angles spot on.

Was really interesting seeing Nedeljkovic's style though. Never seen him play before. Stays upright way longer than most - a la brodeur. Kind of refreshing to see.
So let me see if I have this right. It's not his fault that he went down early? Yes he was screened, but he didn't help himself out by going down to the ice before the puck is even released from the point.
You can easily make that save on your feet or on your knees. If you play butterfly that's fine, you just can't be doing that on your goal line, especially if you're reflexes aren't your strong suit. I agree staying up longer would be my preference too but they key point is his angles and his skill at seeing around the screen... whether that's getting low (like Johnny Quick) or staying upright and looking over and around (like most other tenders).

Sorry if I seem sensitive haha but pet peeve is people commenting on goaltending when they've never played at a competitive level... end rant.
know what is equally irritating? Assuming that somebody hasn't played it at a competitive level or that you clearly know better than everybody else. Elitist arrogance at its finest.

Re: WJC Talk

PostedCOLON Sat Dec 26, 2015 4:33 pm
by Handsome&FairMike
Did ya though?

Would be surprised if you have and you're making that argument. Cause then you'd just be stupid rather than ignorant.

Lol Xmas is over btw. Back to some nasty hockey talk haha