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Re: VOTE
PostedCOLON Thu Mar 05, 2015 11:33 am
by KapG
The BBKL Insider wroteCOLONBruyns wroteCOLONAfter all this I just hope the CC implements what the league wants since it would be disappointing to not at least try an expanded schedule next season and see how it goes.
My insider info tells me that the CC has been watching this debate closely and they have noticed that the league is in favour of 82 games, they are just watching the debate to see which scoring system we go with.
Points or WLT.
W-l-t is for football leagues IMO.
Re: VOTE
PostedCOLON Thu Mar 05, 2015 11:43 am
by kyuss
dave1959 wroteCOLONspeaking of CC...it still shows Mash as a member
we should perhaps replace him
He has not been a CC member like forever
Re: VOTE
PostedCOLON Thu Mar 05, 2015 11:45 am
by Lee
Figurehead.
Re: VOTE
PostedCOLON Thu Mar 05, 2015 11:48 am
by Arian The Insider
KapG wroteCOLONLeanMachine wroteCOLONLee wroteCOLONKapG wroteCOLONBut we don't need to mimic the NHL to a T.
If we are, I'd like free agency and buyouts available to us as well as salary retention please.
Salary retention and free agency, please. Would also like the ability to drop a contracted player in season as well.
Would like to read a good argument why would should do this. Pretty sure Kyle just tossed this idea out as we were discussing mimicking NHL.
Well, if we gonna mimick it, may as well do it properly right? So retention, free agency and buyouts please.
salary retention is very possible to do and I can see us implementing it in the next couple seasons. there's no way to do free agency fairly since we have no way to really simulate a player's decision which can include many factors such as contract length, money/taxes, team competitiveness, location, and others. i assume you're just saying this because you're against WLT though and don't really mean it.
Re: VOTE
PostedCOLON Thu Mar 05, 2015 12:01 pm
by kyuss
LeanMachine wroteCOLONFantrax does not support the points + W-L-T format (hybrid), so whoever is wanting this idea should also be volunteering to compile the data on a weekly basis and display weekly results for us to view.
I don't think that's an issue: we already compile our standings anyway.. the difference from pasting fantrax numbers or writing fantrax numbers after adding 5 or 10 pts per matchup doesn't seem relevant. And yes, if it is deemed too complicated by others I will do that myself.
Re: VOTE
PostedCOLON Thu Mar 05, 2015 12:02 pm
by KapG
Yah, I didn't really mean it at all Arian
. I think I mentioned that in here too
Re: VOTE
PostedCOLON Thu Mar 05, 2015 12:06 pm
by kyuss
Arian The Insider wroteCOLONsalary retention is very possible to do..
very possible? seems like a nightmare to me, something that would bring more problems than benefits.
I certainly want nothing to do with that personally and expect those advocating for salary retention to fully take charge in managing & controlling that aspect in the unfortunate case we are going down that route.
Re: VOTE
PostedCOLON Thu Mar 05, 2015 12:13 pm
by bills09
Well if we adopted salary retention Id imagine it'd be 2 per contract til it expires or only allowed on expiring contracts
Re: VOTE
PostedCOLON Thu Mar 05, 2015 12:23 pm
by Lee
Only expiring makes the most sense, wouldn't hurt future GMs.
Re: VOTE
PostedCOLON Thu Mar 05, 2015 12:25 pm
by KapG
kyuss wroteCOLONArian The Insider wroteCOLONsalary retention is very possible to do..
very possible? seems like a nightmare to me, something that would bring more problems than benefits.
I certainly want nothing to do with that personally and expect those advocating for salary retention to fully take charge in managing & controlling that aspect in the unfortunate case we are going down that route.
As the person who brought it up today, I was fully joking and understand how big a headache it would be.
Re: VOTE
PostedCOLON Thu Mar 05, 2015 12:38 pm
by LeanMachine
kyuss wroteCOLONLeanMachine wroteCOLONFantrax does not support the points + W-L-T format (hybrid), so whoever is wanting this idea should also be volunteering to compile the data on a weekly basis and display weekly results for us to view.
I don't think that's an issue: we already compile our standings anyway.. the difference from pasting fantrax numbers or writing fantrax numbers after adding 5 or 10 pts per matchup doesn't seem relevant. And yes, if it is deemed too complicated by others I will do that myself.
Don't think it's complicated, and no our standings being accurately displayed is relevant.
In the hybrid scoring scenario, Fantrax scoring will display "irrelevant" standings as it will not be able to automate the 0-5-10 pt bonus. We would be relying upon you, or whoever decides to weekly compile and display the results.
Manual standings generation also opens up the possibility to user errors. Standings will have to be reviewed more closely for accuracy.
Re: VOTE
PostedCOLON Thu Mar 05, 2015 4:25 pm
by Matthew
Good lord. So like half of the people who have already done their rankings have now changed their minds? And we have a new hybrid option(seems messy) to include? This will be a nightmare to count now.
Should We start a new poll, or do u guys want to edit your selections, or can the cc just view this thread and make their own decisions without me tallying up all the votes?
Re: VOTE
PostedCOLON Thu Mar 05, 2015 4:33 pm
by dave1959
I think pretty much everyone wants the expanded schedule...
now they are discussing W-L-T or keep existing 16 categories pts
and a hybrid of both for good measure
Re: VOTE
PostedCOLON Thu Mar 05, 2015 4:36 pm
by Nick
and despite my clear opinion towards WTL, we've all noted that the status quo is doing just fine as well.
Re: VOTE
PostedCOLON Thu Mar 05, 2015 4:37 pm
by Matthew
I figured on the 82. So vote on the other 3 options? Or just let cc view and decide?
Re: VOTE
PostedCOLON Thu Mar 05, 2015 4:41 pm
by thom54
late to this shin-dig. .. 82 and hybrid.
Re: VOTE
PostedCOLON Thu Mar 05, 2015 4:42 pm
by Matthew
Nick wroteCOLONand despite my clear opinion towards WTL, we've all noted that the status quo is doing just fine as well.
Such a change from when I went to bed last night.
I was thinking implementing 2 large changes at once (gp + scoring system) would be pretty drastic. I think 82 games, with the current scoring system, and If that doesn't work very well, then go to WLT/Hybrid later on.
There is a greater chance of being more unhappy people after 2 drastic changes at once than if we make 1 change, then work out the kinks, and then make another change if it is needed, or if it becomes apparent that it will improve the league.
Re: VOTE
PostedCOLON Thu Mar 05, 2015 7:16 pm
by The BBKL Insider
I agree with matthew.
One change this year and we revisit the WLT in a year or 2
Re: VOTE
PostedCOLON Fri Mar 06, 2015 7:38 am
by Chuck Norris
I like that idea all well. One drastic change this year, make sure we like it then look into a second change after next year. 82 game schedule seems pretty unanimous here.
Re: VOTE
PostedCOLON Fri Mar 06, 2015 8:36 am
by dave1959
Done! Book it!!
82 game schedule for 2015/16
Well done lads