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Re: 1st/2nd Overall Connor McDavid/Jack Eichel
PostedCOLON Sat Mar 21, 2015 10:47 pm
by lightupdadarkness
Fraser wroteCOLONlightupdadarkness wroteCOLONFraser wroteCOLONlightupdadarkness wroteCOLONThey dropped across the board from previous years so this year I can only drop to 2nd at worst........previous odds were +6.2 but now are +6.5. They took the from the top heavy and sprinkle it around very little throughout. In this year I only can drop one spot next year is the top 3 that are in play. So yes the bottom teams have very slight advantage from previous years but in theory my competition is the next team with the greatest odds in the lottery and the law of averages. Get me?
I don't have tons of experience with gambling odds, so I'm probably missing something here. But when the 1st overall pick disperses some of its chances to win the lottery to the field, how exactly does that increase the odds of the 1st overall pick to win the lottery?
Bc you are looking at it as it has an 80% chance of not being first b/c they have sprinkled some odds further down as opposed to the previous 75% but in doing so they have slightly increased the odds of the worst team winning the lotto. For simplicity sake: So last year I would have had 6.2% more balls in the lotto than the next closest team(2nd team) and now this year I'm at 6.5 % so I have a positive net gain of .2%. They took some from the worst team but more from the others. So do other lower teams have a slightly better chance than previous yes they do but so do I. That 5% you are looking at being spread out in the lower tier as opposed to the top. So for example the bottom team gain half a percent but I gain on my biggest competition which is the 2nd worst team overall. So yes the bottom team get a little more but so did I over my biggest competition. Hopefully that helps explain in an easier way I was trying to say. Also You don't honestly believe the NHL doesn't have a hand in this do you? lol
Alright I now understand what you are saying, but I still don't really understand how it is relevant when the overall goal is obviously to win the lottery. Sure you may have a .2% better chance of winning the lottery in comparison to the #2 seed alone, but you aren't just competing against #2 to win the lottery its all non-playoff teams that you have to take in consideration. What it boils down to is your odds of winning have gotten worse this year opposed to others overall, which is a point Im fairly sure we agree on. Isolating the "top lottery contenders" alone it may make your situation look more favourable, but that isn't the reality of the lottery that is going to take place.
Nope I lost 5% while 2nd loses 5.3 and then other teams gain increments throughout from previous lottos. No I am going against every of course but I still gain over my main competition and this year can only fall to 2nd overall. Shit is rigid anyways Gary don't wanna get assassinated so he will do what is right lol
Re: 1st/2nd Overall Connor McDavid/Jack Eichel
PostedCOLON Sat Mar 21, 2015 10:51 pm
by lightupdadarkness
Shep wroteCOLONI'll wait to pay up until this is confirmed the 1st overall pick.
You have my number
Re: 1st/2nd Overall Connor McDavid/Jack Eichel
PostedCOLON Sat Mar 21, 2015 10:52 pm
by lightupdadarkness
CasperX22 wroteCOLONAnd fuck it. Corey Perry+1st
Hellooooo
Re: 1st/2nd Overall Connor McDavid/Jack Eichel
PostedCOLON Sun Mar 22, 2015 12:20 am
by kimmer
lightupdadarkness wroteCOLONCasperX22 wroteCOLONAnd fuck it. Corey Perry+1st
Hellooooo
excellent offer
Re: 1st/2nd Overall Connor McDavid/Jack Eichel
PostedCOLON Sun Mar 22, 2015 12:25 am
by Matthew
Matthew wroteCOLONKane + Wennberg + Oleksiak + Paquette + Despres
Kimmer wrote:
far more excellent offer
Re: 1st/2nd Overall Connor McDavid/Jack Eichel
PostedCOLON Sun Mar 22, 2015 12:33 am
by Fraser
^ Agreed. Nobody touches Matthews offer in this thread yet in my opinion.
Re: 1st/2nd Overall Connor McDavid/Jack Eichel
PostedCOLON Sun Mar 22, 2015 2:24 am
by lightupdadarkness
This is my playoffs here. Which way am I'm gonna go? Getting that draft itch!
Re: 1st/2nd Overall Connor McDavid/Jack Eichel
PostedCOLON Sun Mar 22, 2015 2:30 am
by Nick
Kadri + Jurco + Wotherspoon + Pysyk + 1st + 2nd
Re: 1st/2nd Overall Connor McDavid/Jack Eichel
PostedCOLON Sun Mar 22, 2015 2:40 am
by lightupdadarkness
Nick wroteCOLONKadri + Jurco + Wotherspoon + Pysyk + 1st + 2nd
Weeeeelll now
Re: 1st/2nd Overall Connor McDavid/Jack Eichel
PostedCOLON Sun Mar 22, 2015 3:41 am
by Matthew
Nick wroteCOLONKadri + Jurco + Wotherspoon + Pysyk + 1st + 2nd
Kane>Kadri
Wennberg>Jurco
Despres>Wotherspoon + 2nd
Paquette>Pysyk
Oleksiak>late 1st
How is this even close?
I'd think what you received in the Duchene deal + Hayes + Duclair...maybe?
An 18 year old Crosby>>>Duchene imo.
Try Again. I think I still have this.
Re: 1st/2nd Overall Connor McDavid/Jack Eichel
PostedCOLON Sun Mar 22, 2015 3:47 am
by Fraser
Need a few more >>> between Kane and Kadri.
But Oleksiak sucks bro. Rest accurate.
Re: 1st/2nd Overall Connor McDavid/Jack Eichel
PostedCOLON Sun Mar 22, 2015 3:51 am
by lightupdadarkness
CAM wroteCOLONbills09 wroteCOLONI'd sell that pick for a huge return with multiple assets similar to matts offer if I was in Dallas position
Agree. That one pick could remake that roster with some of the offers made. The gamble is do i sell before lottery or after.
I think it may come down to does it make it to then but we shall see
Re: 1st/2nd Overall Connor McDavid/Jack Eichel
PostedCOLON Sun Mar 22, 2015 3:59 am
by Matthew
Fraser wroteCOLONNeed a few more >>> between Kane and Kadri.
But Oleksiak sucks bro. Rest accurate.
You know something? YOU SUCK!
O-leksiak Rules.
Re: 1st/2nd Overall Connor McDavid/Jack Eichel
PostedCOLON Sun Mar 22, 2015 4:00 am
by lightupdadarkness
We need a like button on here or something
Re: 1st/2nd Overall Connor McDavid/Jack Eichel
PostedCOLON Sun Mar 22, 2015 6:57 am
by thom54
i'll wait to make an offer until we can ACTUALLY TRADE
Re: 1st/2nd Overall Connor McDavid/Jack Eichel
PostedCOLON Sun Mar 22, 2015 7:10 am
by lightupdadarkness
Haha got more than a few pushing for a gentleman's agreement so we will see
Re: 1st/2nd Overall Connor McDavid/Jack Eichel
PostedCOLON Sun Mar 22, 2015 7:24 am
by Fraser
lightupdadarkness wroteCOLONHaha got more than a few pushing for a gentleman's agreement so we will see
Re: 1st/2nd Overall Connor McDavid/Jack Eichel
PostedCOLON Sun Mar 22, 2015 8:01 am
by lightupdadarkness
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Re: 1st/2nd Overall Connor McDavid/Jack Eichel
PostedCOLON Sun Mar 22, 2015 8:25 am
by KapG
lightupdadarkness wroteCOLONCasperX22 wroteCOLONAnd fuck it. Corey Perry+1st
Hellooooo
That Kane, first + Wennberg + desprese + deal > Perry and a first.
Re: 1st/2nd Overall Connor McDavid/Jack Eichel
PostedCOLON Sun Mar 22, 2015 8:26 am
by KapG
lightupdadarkness wroteCOLONHaha got more than a few pushing for a gentleman's agreement so we will see
Don't agree to anything unless someone is willingly trading you a ridiculous amount.
These guys in here will try to talk you into their offers but fuck them. Juice them all!