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Re: MTL - PHI Blockbuster - Hell has frozen over
PostedCOLON Thu May 21, 2015 9:09 am
by KapG
thom54 wroteCOLONKapG wroteCOLONthom54 wroteCOLONKapG wroteCOLONThoooom. What was varlamov ess% last season compared to rinne??
last year? or what? I'll toss you the site I use ... Don't know Varla's timeline as well as Rinne's obviously
Just gimme his ess% for last season where IMO he should have won the vezina.
0.9375 behind Rask's 0.9431 (and Harding too at 0.9415), price was up there too
thanks for proving he is a stud. That's while playing behind one of the worst defenses in the league too.
Re: MTL - PHI Blockbuster - Hell has frozen over
PostedCOLON Thu May 21, 2015 9:10 am
by KapG
kimmer wroteCOLONNot bad.
Now is thom and kapG arguing?
More just a disagreement as I think varlamov is on rinnes level and Thom didn't think so.
Re: MTL - PHI Blockbuster - Hell has frozen over
PostedCOLON Thu May 21, 2015 9:18 am
by The BBKL Insider
KapG wroteCOLONkimmer wroteCOLONNot bad.
Now is thom and kapG arguing?
More just a disagreement as I think varlamov is on rinnes level and Thom didn't think so.
i think Rinne is in the same group as Rask, Price, Lundy. I would put Varlamov in the 2nd tier
Re: MTL - PHI Blockbuster - Hell has frozen over
PostedCOLON Thu May 21, 2015 9:19 am
by KapG
Fair enough Steve. Ur one of the few I've seen put him there. I think he's closer to 2nd then first but just nitpicking.
Re: MTL - PHI Blockbuster - Hell has frozen over
PostedCOLON Thu May 21, 2015 9:21 am
by The BBKL Insider
KapG wroteCOLONFair enough Steve. Ur one of the few I've seen put him there. I think he's closer to 2nd then first but just nitpicking.
Call me crazy, but i think Rinne is as good as price
i actually think they are the best 2 goalies in the NHL
although varlamov is good, he's not getting the love he deserves in this thread. I think guys like Lu, Crawford and Miller are in the 3rd tier of goalies
quality starters but not stars
Re: MTL - PHI Blockbuster - Hell has frozen over
PostedCOLON Thu May 21, 2015 9:26 am
by thom54
The BBKL Insider wroteCOLONKapG wroteCOLONFair enough Steve. Ur one of the few I've seen put him there. I think he's closer to 2nd then first but just nitpicking.
Call me crazy, but i think Rinne is as good as price
i actually think they are the best 2 goalies in the NHL
although varlamov is good, he's not getting the love he deserves in this thread. I think guys like Lu, Crawford and Miller are in the 3rd tier of goalies
quality starters but not stars
Varla is 2nd tier, Holtby should be there too IMO
Re: MTL - PHI Blockbuster - Hell has frozen over
PostedCOLON Thu May 21, 2015 9:35 am
by kimmer
Guys Andersen? If he wins the cup hes A tier no questions asked. Hes better than price
Re: MTL - PHI Blockbuster - Hell has frozen over
PostedCOLON Thu May 21, 2015 10:07 am
by KapG
Wtf are you talking about Paul?
Re: MTL - PHI Blockbuster - Hell has frozen over
PostedCOLON Thu May 21, 2015 10:10 am
by kimmer
Frederik Andersen? Hello?
Re: MTL - PHI Blockbuster - Hell has frozen over
PostedCOLON Thu May 21, 2015 10:15 am
by Bruyns
kimmer wroteCOLONGuys Andersen? If he wins the cup hes A tier no questions asked. Hes better than price
67-21-5 is amazing, but the Ducks are good. Still has to prove more in the NHL, but in the BBKL at 1.15M and Gibson at 894K there is no goalie system I'd trade them for.
Re: MTL - PHI Blockbuster - Hell has frozen over
PostedCOLON Thu May 21, 2015 10:20 am
by KapG
kimmer wroteCOLONFrederik Andersen? Hello?
In a tier with Rask, price and Lundy? No Paul.
Re: MTL - PHI Blockbuster - Hell has frozen over
PostedCOLON Thu May 21, 2015 10:24 am
by Nick
I think you guys are out to lunch adding anyone to the Lundy/Price best goalie in the world discussion.
Re: MTL - PHI Blockbuster - Hell has frozen over
PostedCOLON Thu May 21, 2015 10:29 am
by kimmer
I'm going for lunch soon
Re: MTL - PHI Blockbuster - Hell has frozen over
PostedCOLON Thu May 21, 2015 10:29 am
by KapG
Nick wroteCOLONI think you guys are out to lunch adding anyone to the Lundy/Price best goalie in the world discussion.
Rask is the only guy who you could perhaps add. Rest are tier 2 (which contains many elite goalies...but there's really only 2-3 god tier)
Re: MTL - PHI Blockbuster - Hell has frozen over
PostedCOLON Thu May 21, 2015 8:18 pm
by CasperX22
KapG wroteCOLONthom54 wroteCOLONKapG wroteCOLONthom54 wroteCOLONHoltby is definitely being forgotten here, but I realize he has to do it for a longer time period... Varlamov actually has to do a bit more to be near Rinne though too... Varlamov is in a tier below that. He may bring it up this next season though
Disagree.
First tier is Rask, price, Lundy.
2nd tier (not thaaaaaat far behind) is guys like Bob, varly, rinne, holtby looks to be jointing this group too and I suppose bishop.
Varlamov should have won the vezina last year but he has more work to do before he's on rinnes level? Iunno Thom...
Even Strength S% ... Rinne second overall past year (in goalies in this convo ... no one is saying Dubnyk or Mason haha), Varla is WAAAY down that list. I believe that ESS% is one of the accepted stats that roughly quantify goalie skill.
Rinne at 0.9366 vs Varla at 0.9175 /... right with Andersen in ANA and Ramo ... for the last year
WhT are varlamovs numbers like since he was a starter? His numbers in Washington were not as good as they've been since he got traded.
Ur using just he last year? Why take out varlamov vezina caliber season?
Yeah lets keep Mase under the radar haha! Amazing he was able to do that with an AHL caliber defense.
Re: MTL - PHI Blockbuster - Hell has frozen over
PostedCOLON Fri May 22, 2015 4:53 am
by kyuss
If I had a must win game tomorrow Price would not even be among the three goalies I would pick from.
But I know I'm probably alone on that one.
Re: MTL - PHI Blockbuster - Hell has frozen over
PostedCOLON Fri May 22, 2015 4:56 am
by CasperX22
kyuss wroteCOLONIf I had a must win game tomorrow Price would not even be among the three goalies I would pick from.
But I know I'm probably alone on that one.
You're not. People vastly overrate how good Price is. That said, he is still a top 10 goalie.
Re: MTL - PHI Blockbuster - Hell has frozen over
PostedCOLON Fri May 22, 2015 7:31 am
by Robin Hood
What? If I had to win game 7 scf tmrw, there is no goalie I'd take over Price/Lundqvist
Re: MTL - PHI Blockbuster - Hell has frozen over
PostedCOLON Fri May 22, 2015 7:37 am
by The BBKL Insider
Robin Hood wroteCOLONWhat? If I had to win game 7 scf tmrw, there is no goalie I'd take over Price/Lundqvist
Add Rinne to those guys and i agree.
People forget how bad the preds were without Rinne and how good with Rinne (lottery team without, top team with). That guy is the Price of the habs.
Lundy is a world class goalie, but i believe that Rangers would still be a very strong team without him. That said, my order goes:
Price
Rinne
Lundy
Rask
Those are the 4 who seperate themselves from the rest of the pack IMO.
Re: MTL - PHI Blockbuster - Hell has frozen over
PostedCOLON Fri May 22, 2015 7:38 am
by CasperX22
Robin Hood wroteCOLONWhat? If I had to win game 7 scf tmrw, there is no goalie I'd take over Price/Lundqvist
Give me Rinne, Quick, and Rask easily over Price if I had to win 1 game without even blinking.