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Re: 2013 Entry Draft Discussion.

PostedCOLON Mon Apr 08, 2013 2:18 pm
by Phion Keneuf
Peter wroteCOLON
Phion Keneuf wroteCOLONWait, if we missed GP we only drop 1 pick spot? No matter the extent of how much we missed the minimum by?

Ouch, I went from 4th overall to 10th overall by trying to reach the GP minimum.... Could've drafted 5th.
Ouch is right.
But I think punishments vary, iirc.
If you missed gp by like >100 games I think the punishment may be more extreme.
Next year will be my lottery year, book it lol.

And alright, I know for next year... I'm happy with where I'm drafting. Top 5 would've been nicer though haha.

Re: 2013 Entry Draft Discussion.

PostedCOLON Mon Apr 08, 2013 2:24 pm
by Peter
Phion Keneuf wroteCOLON
Peter wroteCOLON
Phion Keneuf wroteCOLONWait, if we missed GP we only drop 1 pick spot? No matter the extent of how much we missed the minimum by?

Ouch, I went from 4th overall to 10th overall by trying to reach the GP minimum.... Could've drafted 5th.
Ouch is right.
But I think punishments vary, iirc.
If you missed gp by like >100 games I think the punishment may be more extreme.
Next year will be my lottery year, book it lol.

And alright, I know for next year... I'm happy with where I'm drafting. Top 5 would've been nicer though haha.
Yeah, at least this drafts deep enough to grab a solid player anywhere in the first round. Well, especially anywhere in the top half of it.

Re: 2013 Entry Draft Discussion.

PostedCOLON Mon Apr 08, 2013 2:31 pm
by Phion Keneuf
Peter wroteCOLON
Phion Keneuf wroteCOLON
Peter wroteCOLON
Phion Keneuf wroteCOLONWait, if we missed GP we only drop 1 pick spot? No matter the extent of how much we missed the minimum by?

Ouch, I went from 4th overall to 10th overall by trying to reach the GP minimum.... Could've drafted 5th.
Ouch is right.
But I think punishments vary, iirc.
If you missed gp by like >100 games I think the punishment may be more extreme.
Next year will be my lottery year, book it lol.

And alright, I know for next year... I'm happy with where I'm drafting. Top 5 would've been nicer though haha.
Yeah, at least this drafts deep enough to grab a solid player anywhere in the first round. Well, especially anywhere in the top half of it.
Yup I have lots of chips to move around as well

We'll see what happens

Re: 2013 Entry Draft Discussion.

PostedCOLON Mon Apr 08, 2013 2:35 pm
by Peter
Phion Keneuf wroteCOLON
Peter wroteCOLON
Phion Keneuf wroteCOLON
Peter wroteCOLON
Phion Keneuf wroteCOLONWait, if we missed GP we only drop 1 pick spot? No matter the extent of how much we missed the minimum by?

Ouch, I went from 4th overall to 10th overall by trying to reach the GP minimum.... Could've drafted 5th.
Ouch is right.
But I think punishments vary, iirc.
If you missed gp by like >100 games I think the punishment may be more extreme.
Next year will be my lottery year, book it lol.

And alright, I know for next year... I'm happy with where I'm drafting. Top 5 would've been nicer though haha.
Yeah, at least this drafts deep enough to grab a solid player anywhere in the first round. Well, especially anywhere in the top half of it.
Yup I have lots of chips to move around as well

We'll see what happens
Yeah it'll be entertaining, all I really care about in bbkl is draft day right now

Re: 2013 Entry Draft Discussion.

PostedCOLON Mon Apr 08, 2013 2:45 pm
by Lee
Phion Keneuf wroteCOLONWait, if we missed GP we only drop 1 pick spot? No matter the extent of how much we missed the minimum by?

Ouch, I went from 4th overall to 10th overall by trying to reach the GP minimum.... Could've drafted 5th.
That is a terrible attitude to have.

Re: 2013 Entry Draft Discussion.

PostedCOLON Mon Apr 08, 2013 2:54 pm
by The BBKL Insider
i at least have a 2nd rd pick coming to me

Re: 2013 Entry Draft Discussion.

PostedCOLON Mon Apr 08, 2013 3:01 pm
by shooker
Lee wroteCOLON
Phion Keneuf wroteCOLONWait, if we missed GP we only drop 1 pick spot? No matter the extent of how much we missed the minimum by?

Ouch, I went from 4th overall to 10th overall by trying to reach the GP minimum.... Could've drafted 5th.
That is a terrible attitude to have.

Imo it shows our penalties arent strict enough. It is one thing if someone comes half way through the year but no excuses other wise. Special cases for extreme injuries yada yada yada of course.

Re: 2013 Entry Draft Discussion.

PostedCOLON Mon Apr 08, 2013 3:04 pm
by Lee
Maybe my 2013-2014 lineup will consist only of my 2013 draftees.

Re: 2013 Entry Draft Discussion.

PostedCOLON Mon Apr 08, 2013 3:12 pm
by The BBKL Insider
Lee wroteCOLONMaybe my 2013-2014 lineup will consist only of my 2013 draftees.
My top 2 C's next year:

Bjudstad
Cizkas


i'm gonna roll out the tank carpet too!

Re: 2013 Entry Draft Discussion.

PostedCOLON Mon Apr 08, 2013 3:16 pm
by shooker
Fair Deals Steve wroteCOLON
Lee wroteCOLONMaybe my 2013-2014 lineup will consist only of my 2013 draftees.
My top 2 C's next year:

Bjudstad
Cizkas


i'm gonna roll out the tank carpet too!
Lol shut up Steve you already have Skid Crosby or what ever you call Kadri. Although if I lost to Mik I would strongly be considering a complete rebuild ;)

Re: 2013 Entry Draft Discussion.

PostedCOLON Mon Apr 08, 2013 3:18 pm
by The BBKL Insider
shooker wroteCOLON
Fair Deals Steve wroteCOLON
Lee wroteCOLONMaybe my 2013-2014 lineup will consist only of my 2013 draftees.
My top 2 C's next year:

Bjudstad
Cizkas


i'm gonna roll out the tank carpet too!
Lol shut up Steve you already have Skid Crosby or what ever you call Kadri. Although if I lost to Mik I would strongly be considering a complete rebuild ;)
oh there wont be a complete re-build, my team is already pretty young, i'll move out a few players like horcoff to make room for the cap lowering, but other than that i'll run with pretty much the same roster.

Re: 2013 Entry Draft Discussion.

PostedCOLON Mon Apr 08, 2013 3:51 pm
by kyuss
Phion Keneuf wroteCOLONWait, if we missed GP we only drop 1 pick spot? No matter the extent of how much we missed the minimum by?

Ouch, I went from 4th overall to 10th overall by trying to reach the GP minimum.... Could've drafted 5th.
depends on by how many games you miss the minimum.... 1 spot is only the minimum drop.

Re: 2013 Entry Draft Discussion.

PostedCOLON Mon Apr 08, 2013 4:39 pm
by Shoalzie
Going forward, I would like to see this clearly defined in the CBA much like there are defined punishments for being under or over the salary cap.

I realize this is an odd year with the shortened season but like how I got some heat for making a few moves to add players just for GP so I would get punished, we (the teams in the lottery) don't know what the real punishment is but we still made an effort to reach the minimum. However, some of us may still fall short anyway. I'm trying to not miss on GP but it's looking like I will. I pretty much can't have any guy I dress these last three week miss a game, which I know won't happen.

I'll take the punishment whatever it is but to be fair, I think there just needs to be actual defined set of punishments in place so it doesn't seem like it's just being done on the fly. This has been a rule in the league since the beginning so why hasn't their been a precedent set already? If the punishment was defined and is very rough on teams that blatantly tank, then it should deter teams from completely not trying. I assume this was a rule to keep teams from tanking.

Re: 2013 Entry Draft Discussion.

PostedCOLON Mon Apr 08, 2013 4:40 pm
by The BBKL Insider
Miss games played:

"kicked out of league"


1 simple punishment, guarentee's no one misses

Re: 2013 Entry Draft Discussion.

PostedCOLON Mon Apr 08, 2013 4:54 pm
by Shoalzie
Whatever it is, I'm saying take out the uncertainty of what the punishment could be and just set guidelines based on how many games you miss out by and stop leaving us to guess or speculate. There's been a defined minimum for as long as I've been here. Just set a defined punishment or punishment scale so we all know what's at stake. I just want to know what is going to happen so I can plan for my offseason.

Re: 2013 Entry Draft Discussion.

PostedCOLON Mon Apr 08, 2013 4:57 pm
by shooker
Shoalzie wroteCOLONWhatever it is, I'm saying take out the uncertainty of what the punishment could be and just set guidelines based on how many games you miss out by and stop leaving us to guess or speculate. There's been a defined minimum for as long as I've been here. Just set a defined punishment or punishment scale so we all know what's at stake. I just want to know what is going to happen so I can plan for my offseason.
I don't know if it is that easy. there would have to be a massive scale for this. For example 10th overall is not the same as 1st, so dropping from 1st to 2nd is much more severe than 10th to 11th which isn't much. You would have to have tiers for amounts of gp, where the 1st is, what happens when they don't own a 1st etc. A case by case basis is almost needed in a decision like this.

Re: 2013 Entry Draft Discussion.

PostedCOLON Mon Apr 08, 2013 5:11 pm
by Phion Keneuf
Lee wroteCOLON
Phion Keneuf wroteCOLONWait, if we missed GP we only drop 1 pick spot? No matter the extent of how much we missed the minimum by?

Ouch, I went from 4th overall to 10th overall by trying to reach the GP minimum.... Could've drafted 5th.
That is a terrible attitude to have.
It's not an attitude, it's just the truth.

I have no issues drafting 10th, but of course I would like to draft earlier.

Re: 2013 Entry Draft Discussion.

PostedCOLON Mon Apr 08, 2013 5:14 pm
by shooker
Phion Keneuf wroteCOLON
Lee wroteCOLON
Phion Keneuf wroteCOLONWait, if we missed GP we only drop 1 pick spot? No matter the extent of how much we missed the minimum by?

Ouch, I went from 4th overall to 10th overall by trying to reach the GP minimum.... Could've drafted 5th.
That is a terrible attitude to have.
It's not an attitude, it's just the truth.

I have no issues drafting 10th, but of course I would like to draft earlier.
Don't you have like 25 of the 1st's anyways lol. You will get a lot of good prospects in this years draft.

Re: 2013 Entry Draft Discussion.

PostedCOLON Mon Apr 08, 2013 6:08 pm
by Phion Keneuf
shooker wroteCOLON
Phion Keneuf wroteCOLON
Lee wroteCOLON
Phion Keneuf wroteCOLONWait, if we missed GP we only drop 1 pick spot? No matter the extent of how much we missed the minimum by?

Ouch, I went from 4th overall to 10th overall by trying to reach the GP minimum.... Could've drafted 5th.
That is a terrible attitude to have.
It's not an attitude, it's just the truth.

I have no issues drafting 10th, but of course I would like to draft earlier.
Don't you have like 25 of the 1st's anyways lol. You will get a lot of good prospects in this years draft.
Ya that's why I don't really mind lol.

Re: 2013 Entry Draft Discussion.

PostedCOLON Mon Apr 08, 2013 6:47 pm
by Nick
There are too many variables to consider for a simple scale solution.