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Not really. Its pretty much the same thing. Its going to be just as hard to catch up on 8 wins vs 256 points.....Nick wroteCOLONI'm not suggesting that the large # looking foolish is why we care.
but being 256points back of a playoff spot is very different from being 8 wins. yet in our current system that would be the case.
Agree with this, just with the current scoring system.Bruyns wroteCOLONI don't really see negatives to increasing the amount of teams we play per week. Even increasing it to 2 would be an improvement and hopefully the CC is looking at implementing it for next season.
Make my team better? What the fuck do you think I've been trying to do? My team was a black hole when I took over 5 years ago.Handsome&FairMike wroteCOLONBut you'd be playing against 4 teams...
And you need to follow the cats still, because you need more of them total to win the matchup. I dunno, I really don't care either way, and I'm a new guy around here so its not for me to say, but some of you are very one sided in your arguments haha.
I think the W-L-T mimics NHL because although you might have outplayed a team on any given night, all that matters at the end of the day is the final score. And with this model, we play eachother more times which I think will help the divisions identify who are the top teams and who are the bottom teams.
Also, being worried about Steve and Mike is a terrible excuse. Make your team better, be excited to play vs them as a measuring stick, and then when you beat them you'll be that much more happy/accomplished. Its really a pussy excuse for having a shit team and not wanting change if you ask me - with the current model you steal 2-5 categories and are still losing. I don't really see the difference at the end of the day...
But anywho - Did we decide if this is the last week or next week?
lol I realize you've had some shitty bounces dude, but you're whining a lot man. Thats all.KapG wroteCOLON Make my team better? What the fuck do you think I've been trying to do? My team was a black hole when I took over 5 years ago.
Then as I'm making huge strides kovalchuk leaves, burmisteov leaves, sobotka leaves.
You on the other hand took over a perennial powerhouse. So I don't think you should talk about improving ones team or trying to get better until you've taken a shitty team and done something with it.
Fucking right I'm whining. Few new guys get into the league and then all of a sudden start pushing for changes like this when the leagues been a fucking blast to play in the last 5 years.Handsome&FairMike wroteCOLONlol I realize you've had some shitty bounces dude, but you're whining a lot man. Thats all.KapG wroteCOLON Make my team better? What the fuck do you think I've been trying to do? My team was a black hole when I took over 5 years ago.
Then as I'm making huge strides kovalchuk leaves, burmisteov leaves, sobotka leaves.
You on the other hand took over a perennial powerhouse. So I don't think you should talk about improving ones team or trying to get better until you've taken a shitty team and done something with it.
Keep making your team better - don't see how the different format affects your day-to-day at all. Still need to follow the same cats just as much to make sure your team is as competitive as possible so you can win the week overall.
I would definitely be ok with going to 1-8 rankings for East and West Conferences......kyuss wroteCOLONI'm not sure what you're missing. Probably just not paying attention to what I wrote.LeanMachine wroteCOLONHas a lot to do with what you are talking about Mik. Regular season schedule --> regular season standings --> playoff seedings.
pretty sure you just aren't open to hear it.
Again, having a 82 games schedule changes nothing when it comes to the Divisions blocked seedings problem.
You would probably have better final standings, i.e. more representative of teams performances, but that's not the problem I was discussing about the seedings.
The problem comes from having the 4th and 5th teams in division A ranked lower than the 2nd and 3rd team in the division B even if they had twice the pts.
This means:
- the 4th and 5th teams get a worse playoff route than they would deserve, as they conquered many more pts despite being in the much tougher division
- several weeks late in the season may easily be pointless for the 2nd and 3rd team, cause in a situation like this year (or last year) their seedings will stay the same no matter the outcome of those weeks
- the top team in the conference in the 1st round will get the stronger 5th team off the much tougher division instead of getting the worst playoff team in his conference (3rd in the weaker conference)
a 82 games schedule solves nothing of that.
Mik - I apologize if it seems I am talking down to you, but really you have to open up. There is no way you could ever understand what is being discussed until you do so. It is clear you are a man who enjoys doing things the same way things have always been in BBKL. I understand that. But to understand the proposed 82 GP and how it effects seedings, you're gonna have to open up man. Just open up to the idea that "maybe" this is a good idea and "maybe" it might work. I am not saying that 100% for sure this is what needs to happen to improve playoff seedings, but I think it is an option worth consideration (once you understand it properly). What is clear though - the current play-off seeding format for BBKL is broken and needs an upgrade.kyuss wroteCOLON I'm not sure what you're missing. Probably just not paying attention to what I wrote.
Again, having a 82 games schedule changes nothing when it comes to the Divisions blocked seedings problem.
You would probably have better final standings, i.e. more representative of teams performances, but that's not the problem I was discussing about the seedings.
The problem comes from having the 4th and 5th teams in division A ranked lower than the 2nd and 3rd team in the division B even if they had twice the pts.
This means:
- the 4th and 5th teams get a worse playoff route than they would deserve, as they conquered many more pts despite being in the much tougher division
- several weeks late in the season may easily be pointless for the 2nd and 3rd team, cause in a situation like this year (or last year) their seedings will stay the same no matter the outcome of those weeks
- the top team in the conference in the 1st round will get the stronger 5th team off the much tougher division instead of getting the worst playoff team in his conference (3rd in the weaker conference)
a 82 games schedule solves nothing of that.
. You ain't yourself when you're hungrry man.Handsome&FairMike wroteCOLONhaha its all good kyle. Healthy discussion.
But if I knew how to gif something, I think i'd found a way to make sure you ate a Snickers
the results would be signifcanlty different though over 82GP. but I definitely like looking at a W-L-T as opposed to a random number of pointsdave1959 wroteCOLONEAST
Current Way
TOR A1 455
WAS M1 412
BOS A2 417
PIT M2 407
NYI M3 392
MTL A3 389
BUF W1 387
NJD W2 370
W-L-T (1-8 rankings)
TOR 18-1-2
BOS 15-5-1
MTL 15-6-0
PIT 14-6-1
NYI 14-7-0 (392)
BUF 14-7-0 (387)
NJD 13-7-1
WAS 13-8-0
WEST
Current Way
LAK P1 512
COL C1 401
NAS C2 401
MIN C3 399
SJS P2 359
CGY P3 344
CHI W1 357
STL W2 346
W-L-T (1-8 Rankings)
LAK 19-0-2
NAS 14-7-0
CHI 13-6-2
COL 12-8-1 (401)
SJS 12-8-1 (359)
MIN 11-8-2
WPG 11-10-0
ANA 10-10-1
No you clearly do not, damnit!LeanMachine wroteCOLONMik - I apologize if it seems I am talking down to you, but really you have to open up. There is no way you could ever understand what is being discussed until you do so. It is clear you are a man who enjoys doing things the same way things have always been in BBKL. I understand that.kyuss wroteCOLON I'm not sure what you're missing. Probably just not paying attention to what I wrote.
Again, having a 82 games schedule changes nothing when it comes to the Divisions blocked seedings problem.
You would probably have better final standings, i.e. more representative of teams performances, but that's not the problem I was discussing about the seedings.
The problem comes from having the 4th and 5th teams in division A ranked lower than the 2nd and 3rd team in the division B even if they had twice the pts.
This means:
- the 4th and 5th teams get a worse playoff route than they would deserve, as they conquered many more pts despite being in the much tougher division
- several weeks late in the season may easily be pointless for the 2nd and 3rd team, cause in a situation like this year (or last year) their seedings will stay the same no matter the outcome of those weeks
- the top team in the conference in the 1st round will get the stronger 5th team off the much tougher division instead of getting the worst playoff team in his conference (3rd in the weaker conference)
a 82 games schedule solves nothing of that.
Your talking about seedings - I understand perfectly. upgrading to 82 GP season wont simply "double" the standings results as you suggest. That's not how it works. 82GP does not mean playing "every" team more, it means playing certain teams "more often" and other teams "less often"; essentially defining the divisional leaders to a greater extend."Team performances" as you suggest will impact playoff seedings more accurately. as there will be a significant greater amount of divisional games and conference match-ups.
laughing at laughable arguments is the best thing i can do.LeanMachine wroteCOLONMore importantly you are in favour of the 82GP schedule, so that sounds like a positive to me.
I'll let the rest be, as it seems I struck a chord with you as your reaction is now "laughing". Save the intelligent conversation for another day
Which vets are against the idea of being able to play more teams each season? I voted for the 82 game schedule, but my preference wasn't switching to WLT so I can understand not wanting to do away with the current scoring since it has been a big part of the league. It was only just discovered that we were able to schedule multiple matchups per week so that's why it is being discussed and I think it adds to enjoyment giving teams more to follow every week and the added realism is nice too.KapG wroteCOLON
As for the comment, there are still more vets than newbies and its not close. Also, seems to be the newbies pushing for the change to begin with (iirc) even if some vets are clearly on board.