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Re: Who would you protect

PostedCOLON Wed Jun 08, 2016 8:35 am
by Shoalzie
^ That makes sense. I'd imagine we'd do the expansion draft prior to our entry draft. The freeze would end after that draft in time for the entry draft.

Re: Who would you protect

PostedCOLON Wed Jun 08, 2016 8:52 am
by Fraser
Lee wroteCOLON
Lee wroteCOLONwe shod implement a no trade rule from our trade deadline until the end of the expansion draft to prevent people selling off claimable assets after the season.
Nah fuck that it will create a more widespread redistribution of talent around the league rather than just allowing a few guys to get excessively burnt. Lower teams will still have the upper hand in negociations with the top dogs

Re: Who would you protect

PostedCOLON Wed Jun 08, 2016 9:01 am
by Mike
Mike wroteCOLONMine: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... =399127676

I'd regret losing Leo, though a more youth-centric GM might take Kempe or Yak instead. I think I'd probably trade one of my forwards for a comparable D man and expose Holden.
Updated to 7-3-1, but Kempe still exposed.

1 Patrice Bergeron
2 Adam Henrique
3 David Backes
4 Blake Wheeler
5 Jamie Benn
6 James van Riemsdyk
7 Leo Komarov

1 Kris Letang
2 Brent Burns
3 Tyson Barrie

1 Jonathan Quick

Exposed:
Andy Andreoff
Nail Yakupov
Adrian Kempe
Oscar Lindberg
Jason Chimera
Danny Kristo
Iiro Pakarinen
Dennis Everberg
Jiri Sekac
Seth Griffith

Nick Holden
Andrej Sustr
Eric Gryba
Jordie Benn
Cody Goloubef

Peter Budaj
Kevin Poulin
Jhonas Enroth
Jean-Francois Berube
Patrik Bartosak
Alexander Salak
Joacim Eriksson

Re: Who would you protect

PostedCOLON Wed Jun 08, 2016 9:04 am
by Mike
Fraser wroteCOLON
Lee wroteCOLON
Lee wroteCOLONwe shod implement a no trade rule from our trade deadline until the end of the expansion draft to prevent people selling off claimable assets after the season.
Nah fuck that it will create a more widespread redistribution of talent around the league rather than just allowing a few guys to get excessively burnt. Lower teams will still have the upper hand in negociations with the top dogs
Not that I necessarily agree with a no trade rule stretching that far back (but interesting to see Lee the one pioneering it, I can only imagine how boring you'll find the league for that span!) but I think it might have the opposite effect of what you propose. "top teams" will make a few trades to level out their 7:3:1 ratio, even between themselves, effectively limiting the talent ceiling available to the new entrant. Also there's a possibility of collusion between teams (agreements to trade players back after the draft) that would be limited by disallowing trades for a period of time.

Re: Who would you protect

PostedCOLON Wed Jun 08, 2016 9:12 am
by KapG
This will be fun, not.

Re: Who would you protect

PostedCOLON Wed Jun 08, 2016 9:13 am
by KapG
Tony wroteCOLONI vote no expansion. I have spoken.
i vote with Tony

Re: Who would you protect

PostedCOLON Wed Jun 08, 2016 9:13 am
by Mike
You don't think so? I'm pretty pumped about this. We're all in the same boat re: losing a player.

Re: Who would you protect

PostedCOLON Wed Jun 08, 2016 9:19 am
by KapG
Scheifele, Jenner, drouin, voracek, Ennis, sedin and I don't know...clutterbuck or martin

Yandle, Hamonic, chiarot/schenn

Varlamov

Re: Who would you protect

PostedCOLON Wed Jun 08, 2016 9:20 am
by KapG
Mike wroteCOLONYou don't think so? I'm pretty pumped about this. We're all in the same boat re: losing a player.
Don't really want the stress of reacquiring my goalies. If we could keep goalie systems id probably be more excited

Re: Who would you protect

PostedCOLON Wed Jun 08, 2016 9:22 am
by thom54
I don't think you'd lose any goalie Kyle. The ones available now are pretty strong, you'd keep Varly and there's no Gibson/Vas like backup behind him for the Expansion team to desire

Re: Who would you protect

PostedCOLON Wed Jun 08, 2016 9:23 am
by Mike
KapG wroteCOLON
Mike wroteCOLONYou don't think so? I'm pretty pumped about this. We're all in the same boat re: losing a player.
Don't really want the stress of reacquiring my goalies. If we could keep goalie systems id probably be more excited
A few goalies that are probably exposed:
S. Bobrovski
B. Elliott
F. Anderson

I'd expect a pair of them to be selected over Pickard, no (assuming that's who you have/are worried about)?

Re: Who would you protect

PostedCOLON Wed Jun 08, 2016 9:24 am
by KapG
Pickard is a very, very legit goalie. Have you looked at his numbers? They are really good behind a really
Bad team

Re: Who would you protect

PostedCOLON Wed Jun 08, 2016 9:25 am
by thom54
It'll be Anderson and Elliot most likely, he/she won't really target Pickard IMO

Re: Who would you protect

PostedCOLON Wed Jun 08, 2016 9:25 am
by KapG
Mike wroteCOLON
KapG wroteCOLON
Mike wroteCOLONYou don't think so? I'm pretty pumped about this. We're all in the same boat re: losing a player.
Don't really want the stress of reacquiring my goalies. If we could keep goalie systems id probably be more excited
A few goalies that are probably exposed:
S. Bobrovski
B. Elliott
F. Anderson

I'd expect a pair of them to be selected over Pickard, no (assuming that's who you have/are worried about)?
Fair enough.


I guess I have a question for you guys. These players in the expansion draft, their only available to the expansion teams? I don't think I was thinking about this correctly when I initially made that post.

Re: Who would you protect

PostedCOLON Wed Jun 08, 2016 9:26 am
by KapG
thom54 wroteCOLONIt'll be Anderson and Elliot most likely, he/she won't really target Pickard IMO
I do believe I was thinking about the entire situation incorrectly.


If our players aren't claimed by one of the expansion teams we retain them right?

Re: Who would you protect

PostedCOLON Wed Jun 08, 2016 9:26 am
by thom54
yea only expansion team. and you lose one player max

Re: Who would you protect

PostedCOLON Wed Jun 08, 2016 9:27 am
by Mike
They're not "waived" or anything, only available to the expansion team, and most likely every team would lose just on player.

Re: Who would you protect

PostedCOLON Wed Jun 08, 2016 9:29 am
by KapG
Oh ok, that's my bad then :). I was completely misunderstanding how this was going to work.

Excuse my original post!

Thanks guys

Re: Who would you protect

PostedCOLON Wed Jun 08, 2016 9:39 am
by foofnik
Matt is hurt most by this in terms of goalies since he only has Gibson and Freddy so he'll be left with a single goalie on his roster since I think it's safe that Freddy would be taken.

Re: Who would you protect

PostedCOLON Wed Jun 08, 2016 9:41 am
by thom54
WILD prediction - Matt trades Anderson