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Re: 2020 Draft Discussion

PostedCOLON Fri Jun 26, 2020 8:30 pm
by Matthew
Da_Hawks wroteCOLON
dave1959 wroteCOLONHere's the real irony: the NHL primarily did the draft lottery tonight so that the non play-in teams could have something to talk about, generate some buzz in those markets. The only buzz generated tonight was in the play-in markets, and it's the wrong kind of buzz.
My money is on the draft lotto being re-jigged for next year.
Nah. The normal NHL format (outside of covid year) works pretty well.

Re: 2020 Draft Discussion

PostedCOLON Fri Jun 26, 2020 8:34 pm
by Da_Hawks
The lotto format would not be any different in a non-covid year aside from there requiring a 2nd draw. Having someone 12th last draft the best prospect is ridiculous.

Re: 2020 Draft Discussion

PostedCOLON Fri Jun 26, 2020 8:35 pm
by Loki
I mean the result is basically just one of the lowest chance teams winning the lottery which could happen any year, the only real X factor is that because of their play-in format there are teams which would have easily made the playoffs bundled with teams that would have easily missed the playoffs in contention for that spot

Re: 2020 Draft Discussion

PostedCOLON Fri Jun 26, 2020 8:39 pm
by Shoalzie
There shouldn't be rewards for blatantly losing. The Wings were awful this year but it shouldn't mean there's a guaranteed pot of gold at the end. The lottery system has incentives but nothing is a sure thing.

I was a bottom feeder too...I won the lottery and I lost the lottery. Them's the breaks.

Re: 2020 Draft Discussion

PostedCOLON Fri Jun 26, 2020 8:42 pm
by Matthew
It's not like the last place team gets nothing if they don't win the lottery. 4th is still a very good player.

2013 had 3 good forwards and a good dman considered in the top 4.

1st place team falls to 4th? You still get Seth Jones.

This year has Laf, Byfield, Stutzle and jamie Drysdale. We shall see how it all works out. Exciting!

Re: 2020 Draft Discussion

PostedCOLON Fri Jun 26, 2020 10:39 pm
by Matthew
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=R_Abs-bYgvM

Here is the YouTube video of gary bettman selecting the balls. @9:20 they say it is team E.

Re: 2020 Draft Discussion

PostedCOLON Sat Jun 27, 2020 12:20 am
by KapG
Where did I land? 2nd?

Re: 2020 Draft Discussion

PostedCOLON Sat Jun 27, 2020 6:18 am
by kyuss
Matthew wroteCOLONhttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=R_Abs-bYgvM

Here is the YouTube video of gary bettman selecting the balls. @9:20 they say it is team E.
so the countodown didn't reveal the team but that guy saved the day. Hilarious sequence there with the guy struggling to get the "team E" message across his mask to Bettman, and the latter eventually saying it's team B who won the lottery :lol:

The thing I don't understand is how they do these videos for transparency when the list that matches number combinations with NHL teams is not available (is it anywhere?). Without such list we have to trust that single guy, picking the right row and not doing any magic for a particular team (or the NHL itself), so the video per se is useless (other than this year for our purposes).

Imagine if Montreal wins Lafreniere, 80% of fans will claim it's rigged lol.

Although, with the season not being over Taylor Hall is not an UFA yet so Arizona should win it, I should have thought about that!

Re: 2020 Draft Discussion

PostedCOLON Sat Jun 27, 2020 6:39 am
by Shoalzie
Matthew wroteCOLONhttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=R_Abs-bYgvM

Here is the YouTube video of gary bettman selecting the balls. @9:20 they say it is team E.


I would've rather watched this than the actual show. The conspiracy theorists can pound sand.

Re: 2020 Draft Discussion

PostedCOLON Sat Jun 27, 2020 11:27 am
by hong57
Shoalzie wroteCOLONThere shouldn't be rewards for blatantly losing. The Wings were awful this year but it shouldn't mean there's a guaranteed pot of gold at the end. The lottery system has incentives but nothing is a sure thing.

I was a bottom feeder too...I won the lottery and I lost the lottery. Them's the breaks.
brooooo but a potential playoff team getting 1st overall over det... I feel sad how ur real team u cheer for gets screwed over and over again by that klown...

Re: 2020 Draft Discussion

PostedCOLON Sat Jun 27, 2020 11:28 am
by hong57
Bettmen: this was all perfectly clear..
damn confusing..


and fking funny how he held the newspaper up at the beginning.. lmaoooooo

Re: 2020 Draft Discussion

PostedCOLON Sat Jun 27, 2020 11:46 am
by Shoalzie
hong57 wroteCOLON
Shoalzie wroteCOLONThere shouldn't be rewards for blatantly losing. The Wings were awful this year but it shouldn't mean there's a guaranteed pot of gold at the end. The lottery system has incentives but nothing is a sure thing.

I was a bottom feeder too...I won the lottery and I lost the lottery. Them's the breaks.
brooooo but a potential playoff team getting 1st overall over det... I feel sad how ur real team u cheer for gets screwed over and over again by that klown...

4 titles since '97 and 6 trips to the finals since '95...nobody has screwed them. I don't know where the tinfoil Wings fan have crawled out from but I hope they go back to their bunkers and stay there. I hate my fan base more than any other.

Every franchise has a decline after their linchpin players leave or retire. Zetterberg "retiring" was the official end of this era. Holland kept kicking the can down the road instead of rebuilding. Kyle Quincey for essentially Vasilevskiy? Holland screwed the Wings more than a commissioner could.

Besides, the Wings got fat on the cap-free era and Mr. I spent freely and they got their titles. Holland was a mediocre GM for this cap era so Yzerman's job has been to clean up his mess. Lafreniere would've helped but what needs to happen is Yzerman needs to find players with the 3 picks in the 2nd and 2 more in the 3rd round. This is an important draft following an awful season. Maybe they luck out next year and get Aatu Raty.

Re: 2020 Draft Discussion

PostedCOLON Sat Jun 27, 2020 1:04 pm
by dave1959
Has the pick spreadsheet been updated?

Re: 2020 Draft Discussion

PostedCOLON Sat Jun 27, 2020 1:07 pm
by Shoalzie
Sort of. We need to get the GP situation squared away before anything is final.

The Blues own the #1 pick...that's official.

Re: 2020 Draft Discussion

PostedCOLON Sat Jun 27, 2020 1:09 pm
by koomzzz
Shoalzie wroteCOLONSort of. We need to get the GP situation squared away before anything is final.

The Blues own the #1 pick...that's official.
Holy fook

Re: 2020 Draft Discussion

PostedCOLON Sat Jun 27, 2020 1:10 pm
by dave1959
koomzzz wroteCOLON
Shoalzie wroteCOLONSort of. We need to get the GP situation squared away before anything is final.

The Blues own the #1 pick...that's official.
Holy fook
Congrats, I was THIS close, lol

Re: 2020 Draft Discussion

PostedCOLON Sat Jun 27, 2020 1:21 pm
by koomzzz
The real surprise to me was how high up I was in the standings.

Re: 2020 Draft Discussion

PostedCOLON Sat Jun 27, 2020 1:31 pm
by Shoalzie
You were definitely closer to the playoffs than you were to last place.

Re: 2020 Draft Discussion

PostedCOLON Sat Jun 27, 2020 3:44 pm
by Matthew
So NHL teams that now have a chance at Lafreniere are:

Toronto
Pittsburgh
Montreal
Columbus
NYR
NYI
Florida
Carolina

Vancouver
Nashville
Arizona
Minnesota
Edmonton
Chicago
Calgary
Winnipeg

Would be stupid if a few of these teams managed to win it, but definitely a bit weird no matter what given there aren't many truly terrible teams here. Most cases Lafreniere is stepping into okay situations.

Re: 2020 Draft Discussion

PostedCOLON Sat Jun 27, 2020 7:10 pm
by Lee
Shoalzie wroteCOLONSort of. We need to get the GP situation squared away before anything is final.

The Blues own the #1 pick...that's official.

This should have been squared away before the draft lottery look place. I brought it up on the 23nd.