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1000th Post Block

PostedCOLON Tue Jul 08, 2014 10:04 pm
by Bruyns
NHLers

Blake Wheeler
Chris Stewart
Patrick Berglund
Dave Bolland
Nikolai Kulemin
Jori Lehtera
Matt Greene
Kevin Connauton
Andrej Sustr
Jason Demers
Anton Lander
Adam Hall
Jayson Megna

Prospects

Vladislav Namestnikov
Zack Phillips
Brendan Gaunce
Peter Andersson
Raphael Bussieres
Teemu Eronen
Viktor Loov
Taylor Leier
Jackson Houck
Joseph Blandisi
Eric Locke
Laurent Dauphin
Tom Nilsson
Jimmy Vesey

Picks

PIT '15 2nd and 2016 picks

Not looking for 2 for 1s or prospects for my NHL players. Would prefer adding prospects/picks to upgrade a player, but I'm still building for a couple seasons out and 31 year old Matt Greene is my oldest player so I'm not looking to trade youth for veterans this season. Willing to make 1 for 1 deals so if you have interest in a certain player let me know and maybe there is a deal to be made.

Re: 1000th Post Block

PostedCOLON Tue Jul 08, 2014 10:09 pm
by Lee
Ranger for vlad and Phillips

Re: 1000th Post Block

PostedCOLON Tue Jul 08, 2014 10:51 pm
by bills09
Sharp for Wheeler+

Re: 1000th Post Block

PostedCOLON Wed Jul 09, 2014 1:08 am
by anton
gonna put together a bombshell for you. gimme a sec

Re: 1000th Post Block

PostedCOLON Wed Jul 09, 2014 1:10 am
by anton
Ryan O'Reilly + Matt Niskanen + Matt Frattin for Nazem Kadri + Blake Wheeler

Re: 1000th Post Block

PostedCOLON Wed Jul 09, 2014 7:57 am
by Mike
Bruyns wroteCOLONJori Lehtera
I don't see him on the Buffalo roster submission? http://bbkl.ca/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=9962#p147978

Not seeing him on your google docs at all last season either.

Re: 1000th Post Block

PostedCOLON Wed Jul 09, 2014 8:09 am
by Chuck Norris
Mike wroteCOLON
Bruyns wroteCOLONJori Lehtera
I don't see him on the Buffalo roster submission? http://bbkl.ca/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=9962#p147978

Not seeing him on your google docs at all last season either.
He was acquired during the Phion days and on Phion's 2012-13 submission. Don't know that we can hold Matt accountable for Phion's mistakes. There's no record of the asset being traded or dropped so I think we should assume BUF still owns it.

I do remember BUF owning him back when I was helping Phion get roster compliant and to my recollection don't think we dropped him in the process.

Re: 1000th Post Block

PostedCOLON Wed Jul 09, 2014 8:12 am
by Lee
I have a few assets I'd like to forget about as well until they sign an NHL contract.

Re: 1000th Post Block

PostedCOLON Wed Jul 09, 2014 8:12 am
by KapG
anton wroteCOLONRyan O'Reilly + Matt Niskanen + Matt Frattin for Nazem Kadri + Blake Wheeler
pretty sure nick owns kadri now

Re: 1000th Post Block

PostedCOLON Wed Jul 09, 2014 8:14 am
by Mike
Chuck Norris wroteCOLON
Mike wroteCOLON
Bruyns wroteCOLONJori Lehtera
I don't see him on the Buffalo roster submission? http://bbkl.ca/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=9962#p147978

Not seeing him on your google docs at all last season either.
He was acquired during the Phion days and on Phion's 2012-13 submission. Don't know that we can hold Matt accountable for Phion's mistakes. There's no record of the asset being traded or dropped so I think we should assume BUF still owns it.

I do remember BUF owning him back when I was helping Phion roster compliant and to my recollection don't think we dropped him in the process.
Can't blame Phion for this, he's listed on the asset list he left behind, though nowhere after until this block: http://bbkl.ca/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=9224#p128264

Re: 1000th Post Block

PostedCOLON Wed Jul 09, 2014 9:44 am
by Bruyns
Mike wroteCOLON
Chuck Norris wroteCOLON
Mike wroteCOLON
Bruyns wroteCOLONJori Lehtera
I don't see him on the Buffalo roster submission? http://bbkl.ca/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=9962#p147978

Not seeing him on your google docs at all last season either.
He was acquired during the Phion days and on Phion's 2012-13 submission. Don't know that we can hold Matt accountable for Phion's mistakes. There's no record of the asset being traded or dropped so I think we should assume BUF still owns it.

I do remember BUF owning him back when I was helping Phion roster compliant and to my recollection don't think we dropped him in the process.
Can't blame Phion for this, he's listed on the asset list he left behind, though nowhere after until this block: http://bbkl.ca/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=9224#p128264
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The attached image was what I was told to go off of when I took over for Phion and was told the list of assets wasn't up to date. Lehtera was owned by Topher and has always been in the Sabres organization, I don't see how it's my fault it wasn't on the spreadsheet Phion had and from searching Lehtera has always been part of the Sabres organization and if he was on the assets I was provided with I would have listed him each week since he was a prospect with no contract.

The precedent for this was already set since I was awarded Gaudreau since he was part of the Sabres organization and not on the spreadsheet I attached and was given either. I don't know how I was supposed to know I owned players not on that spreadsheet and why I should be punished for Phion's poor bookkeeping.

If it was a player I had listed as my asset at some point and forgot to put him on roster submission I would accept responsibility and lose ownership, but Gaudreau and Lehtera were both players I owned and wasn't aware since they weren't on the spreadsheet of assets I was told I owned.

Re: 1000th Post Block

PostedCOLON Wed Jul 09, 2014 9:47 am
by Sensfanjosh
Have a high waiver pick this year do we mike?

Re: 1000th Post Block

PostedCOLON Wed Jul 09, 2014 9:52 am
by The BBKL Insider
Sensfanjosh wroteCOLONHave a high waiver pick this year do we mike?
first thing i thought of tbh.

Re: 1000th Post Block

PostedCOLON Wed Jul 09, 2014 10:01 am
by Mike
Sensfanjosh wroteCOLONHave a high waiver pick this year do we mike?
Umm, yeah Josh, very fair of you.

Honestly don't have time for this garbage, keep whoever you want.

Re: 1000th Post Block

PostedCOLON Wed Jul 09, 2014 10:02 am
by Mike
The BBKL Insider wroteCOLON
Sensfanjosh wroteCOLONHave a high waiver pick this year do we mike?
first thing i thought of tbh.
Yep, you know how conniving I am, bending BBKL rules to help my team.

Re: 1000th Post Block

PostedCOLON Wed Jul 09, 2014 10:02 am
by Sensfanjosh
He's had the player on fantrax as long as I can remember, not sure why it gets brought up now, I think its a fair question?

Re: 1000th Post Block

PostedCOLON Wed Jul 09, 2014 10:04 am
by Mike
Sensfanjosh wroteCOLONHe's had the player on fantrax as long as I can remember, not sure why it gets brought up now, I think its a fair question?
The question is being brought up now because I see a player who, though searching BBKL, appeared to be unowned.

Your question was more of a snide accusation, to which I reply: go fuck yourself.

Re: 1000th Post Block

PostedCOLON Wed Jul 09, 2014 10:05 am
by Shoalzie
I'm holding the #1 waiver pick and I actually mentioned Lehtera to him because I see that he does have him on his offseason sheet. You do a search on this site and the last record of him was when Phion was running the team.

I'm not going to refute his rights to him...I'm already looking at other options for the #1 pick. However, there should a seamless ownership of assets when a new guy takes over...everything that last guy had, the new guy should have. But, if someone falls through the cracks, they should be open to the entire league. You shouldn't have to doubt whether guy belongs to a team or not. They need to be listed somewhere on this site and on the spreadsheet along with Fantrax.

Re: 1000th Post Block

PostedCOLON Wed Jul 09, 2014 10:09 am
by The BBKL Insider
Phion was pretty awful at keeping track of anything he owned. I think we expected a few guys to fall through the cracks, we also said if we could track guys down phion missed we would realocate those player to the buffalo roster.

Re: 1000th Post Block

PostedCOLON Wed Jul 09, 2014 10:12 am
by Sensfanjosh
He's not listed on this site by Bruyns, but he's listed by both Topher and Phion, and Matt owns him on fantrax, is there literally no other time when a guy has missed a player on a spreadsheet and maintained a record on the tracking site? I can understand if Matt has been told an asset is missing and refuses to update his info, but assuming that's not the case not sure what the issue is being civil about this.