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Waiver Exemption
PostedCOLON Wed Apr 08, 2015 10:57 pm
by bills09
Why do we not use the Nhls model of 160 NHL gp or 5 years after first pro contract
Imo our current system is far to soft and we should look to model the nhls system
Re: Waiver Exemption
PostedCOLON Wed Apr 08, 2015 11:11 pm
by Lee
There has been talk of something like 100 gp or 25 years old.
Re: Waiver Exemption
PostedCOLON Wed Apr 08, 2015 11:18 pm
by Fraser
In my opinion we should be mimicking the NHL wherever possible. So I would be in support of getting ourselves closer to that standard.
Re: Waiver Exemption
PostedCOLON Wed Apr 08, 2015 11:34 pm
by Nick
NHL doesn't use the system billy said - it has a 3 variable sliding scale.
Re: Waiver Exemption
PostedCOLON Thu Apr 09, 2015 12:21 am
by bills09
Nick wroteCOLONNHL doesn't use the system billy said - it has a 3 variable sliding scale.
Regardless imo we should be mimicking the NHL as close as possible imo
Re: Waiver Exemption
PostedCOLON Thu Apr 09, 2015 12:26 am
by bills09
What id like to see
18-20: All slide unless on Roster
20-25: Waiver exempt unless played 160+ NHL gp
25+ Requires Waivers
Re: Waiver Exemption
PostedCOLON Thu Apr 09, 2015 7:28 am
by Mike
^- those are not NHL rules
Re: Waiver Exemption
PostedCOLON Thu Apr 09, 2015 7:41 am
by thom54
I hate the bonus cushion
Re: Waiver Exemption
PostedCOLON Thu Apr 09, 2015 8:30 am
by Mike
thom54 wroteCOLONI hate the bonus cushion
Bonuses are going to be a pain in the ass without capgeek.
Re: Waiver Exemption
PostedCOLON Thu Apr 09, 2015 9:51 am
by Shoalzie
The rules are based on when a guy first signs...something we'd need to dig up from the archives of CapGeek.
Here are the basics:
http://thehockeywriters.com/nhl-waiver-wire-primer/
Another interesting rule I found while poking around is in regards to sending a guy down after they've been recalled. They only have to clear waivers again if they stay up with the NHL club for 10 games or 30 days. I've wondered about why certain guys can go back down to waivers after being called up...they've just not been up with the team long enough.
Re: Waiver Exemption
PostedCOLON Thu Apr 09, 2015 12:04 pm
by Nick
bills09 wroteCOLONNick wroteCOLONNHL doesn't use the system billy said - it has a 3 variable sliding scale.
Regardless imo we should be mimicking the NHL as close as possible imo
We do/did as far as is reasonable. including when a player signed in a 3 variable system becomes complicated.
I think we could lower the GP threshold, in part because we draw a line in the sand at roster submission.
Waiver Exempt starting goalies is a larger issue for us, IMO.
Re: Waiver Exemption
PostedCOLON Thu Apr 09, 2015 12:07 pm
by Matthew
Yeah, isn't waiver exemption for goalies in the NHL between 60-80 games depending on age signed. I'm pretty sure it is less than skaters.
Re: Waiver Exemption
PostedCOLON Thu Apr 09, 2015 12:16 pm
by Mike
Matthew wroteCOLONYeah, isn't waiver exemption for goalies in the NHL between 60-80 games depending on age signed. I'm pretty sure it is less than skaters.
same as for us
Re: Waiver Exemption
PostedCOLON Thu Apr 09, 2015 12:17 pm
by bills09
Our gp number isn't the issue as much as the age (28)
Re: Waiver Exemption
PostedCOLON Thu Apr 09, 2015 12:20 pm
by Matthew
Mike wroteCOLONMatthew wroteCOLONYeah, isn't waiver exemption for goalies in the NHL between 60-80 games depending on age signed. I'm pretty sure it is less than skaters.
same as for us
I did not know this. Thank you.
Re: Waiver Exemption
PostedCOLON Thu Apr 09, 2015 1:16 pm
by Nick
The issue for us is when they become " starters" & our gp lock is based on the roster submission
Perhaps do we make our count live?
Re: Waiver Exemption
PostedCOLON Thu Apr 09, 2015 1:51 pm
by kimmer
I quit this league
Re: Waiver Exemption
PostedCOLON Thu Apr 09, 2015 3:16 pm
by Arian The Insider
kimmer wroteCOLONI quit this league
Re: Waiver Exemption
PostedCOLON Thu Apr 09, 2015 3:18 pm
by Bruyns
bills09 wroteCOLONOur gp number isn't the issue as much as the age (28)
Are there really that many guys 25+ with less than 125GP in this league?
Re: Waiver Exemption
PostedCOLON Thu Apr 09, 2015 4:19 pm
by Nick
Years after signing contract
Age
GP
x
practicality
I think there's ample evidence we went a little too liberal on the waiver exempt status. Let's tighten it a little in order to ensure that players who should be active, are in fact active. This goes back to the whole 30 teams issue.