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CAR/ARI - Vacation deal

PostedCOLON Mon Jun 15, 2015 1:37 pm
by kimmer
To CAR:

Ben Bishop
Kristers Gudlevskis
Riku Helenius
Jaroslav Janus
Adam Wilcox
Colin Wilon

To ARI:

Roberto Luongo
Al Montoya
Michael Houser
Sam Brittian
Evan Cowley
Valtteri Filppula

Re: CAR/ARI - Vacation deal

PostedCOLON Mon Jun 15, 2015 1:42 pm
by cliff11
Done deal thanks Kim

Re: CAR/ARI - Vacation deal

PostedCOLON Mon Jun 15, 2015 1:46 pm
by The BBKL Insider
i like this for paul myself

Re: CAR/ARI - Vacation deal

PostedCOLON Mon Jun 15, 2015 1:52 pm
by Sensfanjosh
Good deal, Paul gets the better goalies, but is missing a big and perhaps untouchable piece from Fraser, Cliff lands an aging but good system and a solid point-producing C. Prefer the security on Cliff's side given the goalie climate on here.

EDIT: Did not notice Colin Wilson and not sure why he was added, yes prefer Paul's side now.

Re: CAR/ARI - Vacation deal

PostedCOLON Mon Jun 15, 2015 1:54 pm
by The BBKL Insider
Bishop is a 1A goalie, if that russian kid takes over in TB then Bishop is traded to be a starter some place else. I actually like Wilson better Flippula as well

Re: CAR/ARI - Vacation deal

PostedCOLON Mon Jun 15, 2015 1:55 pm
by CasperX22
It's an interesting trade, but yeah I would probably prefer to be on Paul's side. Can't say I see the appeal for a rebuilder unless Cliff can flip Filppula for something nice.

Re: CAR/ARI - Vacation deal

PostedCOLON Mon Jun 15, 2015 1:55 pm
by kimmer
My name is Taewan, I keep fucking telling people god

also FT is ready to accept on your end, cliffy

Re: CAR/ARI - Vacation deal

PostedCOLON Mon Jun 15, 2015 1:57 pm
by cliff11
CasperX22 wroteCOLONIt's an interesting trade, but yeah I would probably prefer to be on Paul's side. Can't say I see the appeal for a rebuilder unless Cliff can flip Filppula for something nice.

That's the plan my friend

Re: CAR/ARI - Vacation deal

PostedCOLON Mon Jun 15, 2015 1:58 pm
by CasperX22
cliff11 wroteCOLON
CasperX22 wroteCOLONIt's an interesting trade, but yeah I would probably prefer to be on Paul's side. Can't say I see the appeal for a rebuilder unless Cliff can flip Filppula for something nice.

That's the plan my friend
Good luck.

Re: CAR/ARI - Vacation deal

PostedCOLON Mon Jun 15, 2015 2:01 pm
by The BBKL Insider
i wish i had known wilson was available, he's who i want

Re: CAR/ARI - Vacation deal

PostedCOLON Mon Jun 15, 2015 2:05 pm
by Fraser
Hey its the two systems I have the #2 goalies for.

Re: CAR/ARI - Vacation deal

PostedCOLON Mon Jun 15, 2015 2:09 pm
by Fraser
The BBKL Insider wroteCOLONi wish i had known wilson was available, he's who i want
Good thing Paul just traded for him.

Re: CAR/ARI - Vacation deal

PostedCOLON Mon Jun 15, 2015 2:54 pm
by cliff11
will be making a new block soon

Re: CAR/ARI - Vacation deal

PostedCOLON Mon Jun 15, 2015 3:42 pm
by Robin Hood
Without Wilson, Paul would have lost this deal. With Wilson, this deal is fair.

Re: CAR/ARI - Vacation deal

PostedCOLON Mon Jun 15, 2015 3:44 pm
by cliff11
This TB system isn't worth much without Vasi ….. i would have gotten a lot more with him… also can Bishop stay healthy ?? thats my major question mark

Re: CAR/ARI - Vacation deal

PostedCOLON Mon Jun 15, 2015 3:51 pm
by dave1959
his fucking name is Taewan!!

Re: CAR/ARI - Vacation deal

PostedCOLON Mon Jun 15, 2015 8:16 pm
by Matthew
I think it's fair without Wilson. You are in the same situation with Luo as bishop, except the danger is Luo retires and you have nothing, whereas bishop would just go to another team, and even that is prob not for 2 years.

Re: CAR/ARI - Vacation deal

PostedCOLON Tue Jun 16, 2015 2:36 am
by kyuss
Sensfanjosh wroteCOLON
EDIT: Did not notice Colin Wilson and not sure why he was added, yes prefer Paul's side now.
that's probably because the player traded is Wilon

Re: CAR/ARI - Vacation deal

PostedCOLON Tue Jun 16, 2015 3:00 am
by hong57
Robin Hood wroteCOLONWithout Wilson, Paul would have lost this deal. With Wilson, this deal is fair.
i always agree to what shiv said when he's thinking clear

Re: CAR/ARI - Vacation deal

PostedCOLON Tue Jun 16, 2015 7:22 am
by The BBKL Insider
Matthew wroteCOLONI think it's fair without Wilson. You are in the same situation with Luo as bishop, except the danger is Luo retires and you have nothing, whereas bishop would just go to another team, and even that is prob not for 2 years.
This is my theory as well.

Doesn't seem like cliff valued Bishop enough here IMO, he traded the better goalie and argubly the better player (younger, friendly cap hit). Bishop is a top 10 NHL goalie. If this Vis kid takes over in TB then Bishop is moved to another team and paul still has a 1A goalie and is still ahead IMO.

that's just my take, but by reading everyone's comments it seems like a fair deal.