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CHI/DET Lol what?

PostedCOLON Fri Oct 02, 2015 7:19 pm
by Robin Hood
To Detroit

P.K. Subban

To Chicago

Aaron Ekblad
Paul Byron
2016 2nd Rounder (CHI)
2017 2nd Rounder (DET)

Re: CHI/DET Lol what?

PostedCOLON Fri Oct 02, 2015 7:48 pm
by Shoalzie
Confirmed...

Re: CHI/DET Lol what?

PostedCOLON Fri Oct 02, 2015 7:51 pm
by kimmer
shouldnt have added those two 2nds
but knowing shiv, he probably started with ekblad + reinhart + 1st lol

Re: CHI/DET Lol what?

PostedCOLON Fri Oct 02, 2015 7:53 pm
by lightupdadarkness
Shoalzie wroteCOLONConfirmed...
Curious........selling high on EK Scott or prefer PK?

Re: CHI/DET Lol what?

PostedCOLON Fri Oct 02, 2015 7:58 pm
by The BBKL Insider
I agree the picks were probably unneeded here, but I like this for scott. Subban is a monster. Now dont get me wrong, ekblad is amazing, he just doesn't project to be as good h2h as subban.

However, I suspect this is a cap move to land plek for shiv.

good deal fellas

Re: CHI/DET Lol what?

PostedCOLON Fri Oct 02, 2015 8:03 pm
by Robin Hood
Ya, Scott wins. This deal just gives me 5.8M in cap room despite having the best roster in my division. That is a dangerous amount of power.

Plus Byron is waiver exempt :D.

Re: CHI/DET Lol what?

PostedCOLON Fri Oct 02, 2015 8:09 pm
by lightupdadarkness
The BBKL Insider wroteCOLONI agree the picks were probably unneeded here, but I like this for scott. Subban is a monster. Now dont get me wrong, ekblad is amazing, he just doesn't project to be as good h2h as subban.

However, I suspect this is a cap move to land plek for shiv.

good deal fellas
2 2nds would make sense as add there so Plek to Chi town!

Re: CHI/DET Lol what?

PostedCOLON Fri Oct 02, 2015 8:13 pm
by Robin Hood
lightupdadarkness wroteCOLON
The BBKL Insider wroteCOLONI agree the picks were probably unneeded here, but I like this for scott. Subban is a monster. Now dont get me wrong, ekblad is amazing, he just doesn't project to be as good h2h as subban.

However, I suspect this is a cap move to land plek for shiv.

good deal fellas
2 2nds would make sense as add there so Plek to Chi town!
Mik has rejected Shaw + 2nd CHI 2016 + 2nd DET 2017 for Plekanec.

Re: CHI/DET Lol what?

PostedCOLON Fri Oct 02, 2015 8:21 pm
by Bruyns
Robin Hood wroteCOLON
Plus Byron is waiver exempt :D.
Too many GP and too old not exempt on both accounts

Fair deal

Re: CHI/DET Lol what?

PostedCOLON Fri Oct 02, 2015 8:23 pm
by Robin Hood
Bruyns wroteCOLON
Robin Hood wroteCOLON
Plus Byron is waiver exempt :D.
Too many GP and too old not exempt on both accounts

Fair deal
I checked his numbers. Can you double check for me? His GP and age make him waiver-exempt on my spreadsheet.

Re: CHI/DET Lol what?

PostedCOLON Fri Oct 02, 2015 8:23 pm
by The BBKL Insider
Did u update to makes new one? I know the rules have changed

Re: CHI/DET Lol what?

PostedCOLON Fri Oct 02, 2015 8:26 pm
by Robin Hood
The BBKL Insider wroteCOLONDid u update to makes new one? I know the rules have changed
I used the spreadsheet Mike gave me. He's 26 and 138 GP...

Re: CHI/DET Lol what?

PostedCOLON Fri Oct 02, 2015 8:33 pm
by Matthew
Given Scott should be rebuilding, I believe this is a poor move for him. He gives up roster depth and 2 2nds, and imo, Ekblad will be as good/better bbkl'er than Subban in the future, while having a lot less cap for the next few years, which would make him more valuable in a trade than subban.

Unless Scott is planning on moving Subban for a package of high end prospects? Either way, given im holding Scotts 2017 1st, I actually like this deal for me.

On the other hand, shiv is in win now mode, so its probably good for him as subban and ekblad should be somewhat similar next year, but he now has 5 million in cap space and 3 other pieces to help him upgrade the roster.

Re: CHI/DET Lol what?

PostedCOLON Fri Oct 02, 2015 8:34 pm
by Shoalzie
It was either the two picks or Marc Methot (which cost me Brandon Carlo and Oscar Lindberg). Byron was basically a throw in. Ekblad is going to be very good but as I said to Shiv...but how good?

Re: CHI/DET Lol what?

PostedCOLON Fri Oct 02, 2015 8:34 pm
by Matthew
Robin Hood wroteCOLON
The BBKL Insider wroteCOLONDid u update to makes new one? I know the rules have changed
I used the spreadsheet Mike gave me. He's 26 and 138 GP...
The new waiver rules are 120 games and over 25 are waiver eligible.

Re: CHI/DET Lol what?

PostedCOLON Fri Oct 02, 2015 8:58 pm
by Shoalzie
Matthew wroteCOLONGiven Scott should be rebuilding, I believe this is a poor move for him. He gives up roster depth and 2 2nds, and imo, Ekblad will be as good/better bbkl'er than Subban in the future, while having a lot less cap for the next few years, which would make him more valuable in a trade than subban.

Unless Scott is planning on moving Subban for a package of high end prospects? Either way, given im holding Scotts 2017 1st, I actually like this deal for me.

On the other hand, shiv is in win now mode, so its probably good for him as subban and ekblad should be somewhat similar next year, but he now has 5 million in cap space and 3 other pieces to help him upgrade the roster.

Shiv certainly had his reason to make this move...his teams are known for being full of very solid H2H players with reasonable cap hits. I kinda wondered why he got Subban to begin with.

For me, he's 26 and very much in his prime. The only pieces I would've considered moving Ekblad or Bennett was for proven quality players in their prime. Subban's resale value is unknown but I'm not looking to move him now. He's my new #1 defenseman.

Yes, I'm building but I'm adding pieces to make me far more competitive. I want to add quality young players along the way but I'm also getting tired of being an easy win for everyone else.

Re: CHI/DET Lol what?

PostedCOLON Fri Oct 02, 2015 9:06 pm
by Matthew
Unless you are planning on breaking up subban for multiple high end prospects (alas Kane for Nylander, Morrissey, Kamenev, Samuelsson) then I believe this is a step backwards given your situation.

Re: CHI/DET Lol what?

PostedCOLON Fri Oct 02, 2015 9:13 pm
by The BBKL Insider
I disagree. Subban will be superior in this format

Re: CHI/DET Lol what?

PostedCOLON Fri Oct 02, 2015 9:41 pm
by Robin Hood
Matthew wroteCOLON
Robin Hood wroteCOLON
The BBKL Insider wroteCOLONDid u update to makes new one? I know the rules have changed
I used the spreadsheet Mike gave me. He's 26 and 138 GP...
The new waiver rules are 120 games and over 25 are waiver eligible.
Fuck me - can someone update the CBA please?

Re: CHI/DET Lol what?

PostedCOLON Fri Oct 02, 2015 10:58 pm
by KapG
The BBKL Insider wroteCOLONI disagree. Subban will be superior in this format
This


It's pretty much eckblad and a bunch of meh for subban.

Fucking no brainer lol