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OTT/TBL

PostedCOLON Tue May 03, 2016 1:30 pm
by bills09
To Ottawa
Eric Staal

To Tampa Bay
Klas Dahlbeck
Dmitro Timashov

Re: OTT/TBL

PostedCOLON Tue May 03, 2016 1:35 pm
by Nick
bills09 wroteCOLONTo Ottawa
Eric Staal

To Tampa Bay
Klas Dahlbeck
Dmitro Timashov


Billy wins out of my eagerness to make a deal and no one else expressing any real interest. Hopefully this doesn't look as bad as the Rielly Smith trade...

Re: OTT/TBL

PostedCOLON Tue May 03, 2016 1:39 pm
by Matthew
Nick wroteCOLON
bills09 wroteCOLONTo Ottawa
Eric Staal

To Tampa Bay
Klas Dahlbeck
Dmitro Timashov
.


Billy wins out of my eagerness to make a deal and no one else expressing any real interest. Hopefully this doesn't look as bad as the Rielly Smith trade...

It does. From my reading, dahlbeck has taken a step back and may be a 6/7 dman long term

Re: OTT/TBL

PostedCOLON Tue May 03, 2016 1:40 pm
by Robin Hood
Def worse than Rielly Smith trade.

Re: OTT/TBL

PostedCOLON Tue May 03, 2016 1:41 pm
by Handsome&FairMike
Hmm, ya not great. I'm realizing patience is important in this thing.
Woulda been interested but I've got too many aging C on bloated contracts already.

Re: OTT/TBL

PostedCOLON Tue May 03, 2016 1:51 pm
by Lee
same offer to billy 1st and gelinas

Re: OTT/TBL

PostedCOLON Tue May 03, 2016 2:01 pm
by Matthew
Emelin for staal

Re: OTT/TBL

PostedCOLON Tue May 03, 2016 2:02 pm
by Arian The Insider
Billy destroys this

Re: OTT/TBL

PostedCOLON Tue May 03, 2016 2:07 pm
by Nick
Ya I liked Timashov a lot more than a 2017 mid first and klas a little more than gelinas.

Re: OTT/TBL

PostedCOLON Tue May 03, 2016 2:12 pm
by Matthew
Isn't timashov a 5th rounder in 2015?

Re: OTT/TBL

PostedCOLON Tue May 03, 2016 2:18 pm
by Lee
You need your head checked if you think Timashov is worth anywhere near a mid 1st round pick.
Klas over Gelinas , sure. Gelinas has also put up 30 in the league, might be able to do that again. Klas is not capable of that.

Re: OTT/TBL

PostedCOLON Tue May 03, 2016 2:25 pm
by thom54
Gelinas has a shot and that's it

Re: OTT/TBL

PostedCOLON Tue May 03, 2016 2:28 pm
by Lee
That shot is far better than a large majority of NHLers. Put him in a MAB, PP specialist role from the point and he will get there. Maybe his D never does, but his offensive game more than makes up for it.

Re: OTT/TBL

PostedCOLON Tue May 03, 2016 2:33 pm
by Arian The Insider
Klas and Gelinas are both a step away from the minors at the moment

Re: OTT/TBL

PostedCOLON Tue May 03, 2016 2:42 pm
by CasperX22
For somebody that supposedly had so much faith in Staal, you sure did sell really low. Good chance you wind up with 2 career organizational depth pieces out of this deal.

Re: OTT/TBL

PostedCOLON Tue May 03, 2016 2:46 pm
by CasperX22
thom54 wroteCOLONGelinas has a shot and that's it
There have been plenty of defenders that have made a living in the NHL off less.

Re: OTT/TBL

PostedCOLON Tue May 03, 2016 5:22 pm
by bills09
Lee wroteCOLONsame offer to billy 1st and gelinas
Not interested.

Re: OTT/TBL

PostedCOLON Tue May 03, 2016 5:25 pm
by Nick
Matthew wroteCOLONIsn't timashov a 5th rounder in 2015?

Where a player was drafted doesn't change a player. We're taking about a smal player who fell in draft:
2015 QMJHL All-Rookie Team QMJHL Most Assists by Rookie (71) QMJHL Most Points by Rookie (90) QMJHL Offensive Rookie of the Year (Michel Bergeron Trophy) QMJHL Rookie of the Year

PPG @ WJC

10th-best point production per game of any under-18 skater in the league since the 2012-13. And draft-year pts/60 of 3.90 compared very favourably to other highly touted CHL prospects of recent years, such as Robbie Fabbri (3.99), Leon Draisaitl (3.83) and Sam Reinhart (3.90); this is a super dynamic player and IMO a steal by the leafs.

His regular season scoring rate before trade had surpassed that of Dylan Strome and his percentage increase in production had exceeded that of Mitch Marner. Now he's in the Q finals w/24points in 16playoff games...kinda similar to first rounders in his draft year.

I would rather the player described above than a mid-1st draft pick over a year away.

Re: OTT/TBL

PostedCOLON Tue May 03, 2016 5:33 pm
by Nick
CasperX22 wroteCOLONFor somebody that supposedly had so much faith in Staal, you sure did sell really low. Good chance you wind up with 2 career organizational depth pieces out of this deal.

I accepted risk in this deal, obviously don't view this as accurate.

Tima Show is nicely tested prospect at this stage, and although Klas didn't have a great sophomore season, I try and make a buy low pick from time to time. I do love Eric Staal and believe he'll sign around 6M and return to 50+ points and a huge shot producer.

Re: OTT/TBL

PostedCOLON Tue May 03, 2016 5:50 pm
by CasperX22
Nick wroteCOLON
CasperX22 wroteCOLONFor somebody that supposedly had so much faith in Staal, you sure did sell really low. Good chance you wind up with 2 career organizational depth pieces out of this deal.

I accepted risk in this deal, obviously don't view this as accurate.

Tima Show is nicely tested prospect at this stage, and although Klas didn't have a great sophomore season, I try and make a buy low pick from time to time. I do love Eric Staal and believe he'll sign around 6M and return to 50+ points and a huge shot producer.
A lot I would say. Just seems like a low return as much as you were talking up Staal. Timashov makes or breaks this deal for you. Very high risk move.