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1100 GP Minimum

PostedCOLON Wed Mar 22, 2017 10:57 am
by dave1959
Teams Under 1100 at end of season:

Anaheim - 1094 GP missed 6
Carolina - 1056 GP missed 44

Re: 1100 GP Minimum

PostedCOLON Wed Mar 22, 2017 1:52 pm
by Matthew
I think that includes goalies? You need just skaters.

Re: 1100 GP Minimum

PostedCOLON Wed Mar 22, 2017 1:54 pm
by Handsome&FairMike
They have 3 more weeks to get'r done?

Re: 1100 GP Minimum

PostedCOLON Wed Mar 22, 2017 3:45 pm
by dave1959
that is skater only GP

Re: 1100 GP Minimum

PostedCOLON Wed Mar 22, 2017 6:16 pm
by Loki
Phew, should squeeze in

Re: 1100 GP Minimum

PostedCOLON Wed Mar 22, 2017 6:19 pm
by Fraser
Wow. No idea I was this low. Trust me I'm not tanking

Re: 1100 GP Minimum

PostedCOLON Wed Mar 22, 2017 6:30 pm
by Tony
Disqualified. You're out of the playoffs.

Re: 1100 GP Minimum

PostedCOLON Wed Mar 22, 2017 9:01 pm
by Arian The Insider
And people say tanking doesn't work...

Re: 1100 GP Minimum

PostedCOLON Thu Mar 30, 2017 10:18 am
by dave1959
numbers updated to last night's games included.

Re: 1100 GP Minimum

PostedCOLON Thu Mar 30, 2017 11:34 am
by kimmer
I will take it up the ass and receieve any punishment that I deserve as long as i dont lose any 1sts. If I do then i quit

Re: 1100 GP Minimum

PostedCOLON Thu Mar 30, 2017 11:52 am
by dave1959
no picks lost.

just standings adjustments made.



4-6-1 : The following will be used from this season onward (2015/16 I believe) as guidelines to determine draft positions and sanctions for teams failing to reach the minimal requirements for games played.


1- the team's 1st rounder will be moved back before the lottery occurs at least one spot if GP minimums are not reached

Formula to assess the amount of the pick/s' penalization:
Adjustment = POINTSperGPskaters x UnderLimitSkaters + POINTSperGPgoalies x UnderLimitGoalies
Points + Adjustment = points to be used in the standings to determine the pre-lottery draft order
UnderLimitSkaters = number of games missing to reach the GP minimum for skaters
UnderLimitGoalies = number of games missing to reach the GP minimum for goalies
POINTSperGPskaters = (Points from skaters' stats)/(GP by skaters)
POINTSperGPgoalies = (Points from goalies' stats)/(GP by goalies)
Points = total points at the end of the season

Essentially, the team position is just being adjusted for the missed games; the ensuing new position in the standing affects all the team's picks still owned and the team's 1st round pick no matter if still owned or not.
If the 1st round pick is still owned by the offending team, such team will not be eligible to advance in the draft order as a result of the lottery (its lottery chances will be based on the pre-lottery adjusted position, but winning one of the draws will only affect our draft order if it wouldn't improve the pre-lottery positioning of the pick).

Re: 1100 GP Minimum

PostedCOLON Thu Mar 30, 2017 12:51 pm
by Matthew
Dave you missed the bottom of that post.

Subject: LEAGUE ANNOUNCEMENTS thread
kyuss wroteCOLON
Chuck Norris wroteCOLON.....

It should also be noted that the guidelines that were announced for this situation are flawed and will be reviewed/revised by the CC. The CC takes full responsibility for enacting a flawed set of guidelines but will honor what was announced until a proper review/revision of the guidelines can take place.
Finally, here are the amended guidelines that will be used from now onward to determine draft positions and sanctions for teams failing to reach the minimal requirements for games played (see the highlighted parts for what [1] -> [4] changes were applied to the previous version):


"
1- the team's 1st rounder will be moved back before the lottery occurs [1] at least one spot if GP minimums are not reached

Formula to assess the amount of the pick/s' penalization:
Adjustment = POINTSperGPskaters x UnderLimitSkaters + POINTSperGPgoalies x UnderLimitGoalies [2]
Points + Adjustment = points to be used in the standings to determine the pre-lottery draft order

UnderLimitSkaters = number of games missing to reach the GP minimum for skaters
UnderLimitGoalies = number of games missing to reach the GP minimum for goalies
POINTSperGPskaters = (Points from skaters' stats)/(GP by skaters)
POINTSperGPgoalies = (Points from goalies' stats)/(GP by goalies)

Points = total points at the end of the season


Essentially, the team position is just being adjusted for the missed games; the ensuing new position in the standing affects all the team's picks still owned and the team's 1st round pick no matter if still owned or not.
If the 1st round pick is still owned by the offending GM, his team will not be eligible to advance in the draft order as a result of the lottery (its lottery chances will be based on the pre-lottery adjusted position, but winning one of the draws will only affect our draft order if it wouldn't improve the pre-lottery positioning of the pick). [3]


2- Seriousness of the offence

- within 246GP = 1 warning for removal
- equal to or greater then 246GP = 2 warnings for removal
- 2nd time offender = eligible for removal* (like any GM that gets 3 official warnings)

*obviously, eligible for removal only means a vote on the GM removal wil occur inside the CC. It doesn't mean per se the GM will be indeed removed.
GMs will be allowed to produce all sorts of evidences suggesting missing GPs was not caused by their conduct. Removal will depend on the voting outcome.


3- Compensation owed by the offending GM to the eventual owner of the diminished first rounder*

[color=#BF0000]- If the pick is moved 2 or less spots:
and the pick is #1, a first round selection in this same draft
and the pick is #2-5, a 2nd and a 3rd round selection (this draft year or next)

and the pick is 6+, a 2nd round selection
if the offending GM doesn't own the compensatory picks he will have to acquire them on the market[/color]

- If the pick is moved more then 2 spots:
and the pick is #1-5, the league will also compensate the GM with a pick between the 1st and 2nd round (30b)
and the pick is 6+, the league will also compensate the GM with a pick between the 2nd and 3rd round (60b)

- if the lowered first round pick wins one of the three lottery draws and as a result the team that traded for that pick does not get hurt in the final draft order by the fact the pre-lottery positioning of the acquired pick was lowered, its owner is not due any of the aforementioned compensations. The offending GM has those picks dropped instead [4]


*Obviously point #3 depends on when the owner of the pick acquired it. If the pick is acquired at the end of the season, or when its team is already on par of missing gp, #3 will not apply, as the owner acquired an asset (the pick) that already had diminished value at the time of the deal.
Points #3 also work as sanctions for the GM responsible of missing gp. If the pick is traded at a time that voids #3, instead of sanctions you would have decreased value of the pick already affecting the offending GM in the deal. "

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Reasoning:

[1] to protect teams that finished below the offending team in the standings because of its infraction (missed GP minimums): applying the sanction/adjustment after the lottery would not award such teams the increased lottery odds they deserve.

[2] ARZ case this season pointed out the need to distinguish between

Re: 1100 GP Minimum

PostedCOLON Thu Mar 30, 2017 12:56 pm
by Matthew
Paul owes any first rounder to handsome Mike in this draft.

Re: 1100 GP Minimum

PostedCOLON Thu Mar 30, 2017 12:56 pm
by dave1959
I didn't miss it...i just didn't post it.

didn't realize kimmer traded his 1st.

Re: 1100 GP Minimum

PostedCOLON Thu Mar 30, 2017 1:02 pm
by Lee
Matthew wroteCOLONPaul owes any first rounder to handsome Mike in this draft.

Oh no, he will quit.

Like he has threatened to do many, many times so far. :roll:

Re: 1100 GP Minimum

PostedCOLON Thu Mar 30, 2017 1:21 pm
by kimmer
Wtf?
K ill likely leave

Re: 1100 GP Minimum

PostedCOLON Thu Mar 30, 2017 1:27 pm
by Matthew
No. You're staying. But these are the rules.

Re: 1100 GP Minimum

PostedCOLON Thu Mar 30, 2017 1:36 pm
by kimmer
Nah
If in one sentence, youre telling me i will be left with the same roster and no more firsts, then theres no more reason for me to stay. Been losing interest anyhow. All i care about is drumming nowadays anyway.

Re: 1100 GP Minimum

PostedCOLON Thu Mar 30, 2017 1:43 pm
by Matthew
kimmer wroteCOLONNah
If in one sentence, youre telling me i will be left with the same roster and no more firsts, then theres no more reason for me to stay. Been losing interest anyhow. All i care about is drumming nowadays anyway.
Not what I'm saying. You keep your Florida 1st and give him your other 1st. Or trade back with that pick if you so choose to 31st overall and acquire other assets in the process.

Re: 1100 GP Minimum

PostedCOLON Thu Mar 30, 2017 1:49 pm
by kimmer
K

Who owns min/buf 1st