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Dubnyk vs Saros

PostedCOLON Wed Jul 04, 2018 1:44 pm
by Bruyns
As requested

Re: Dubnyk vs Saros

PostedCOLON Wed Jul 04, 2018 1:47 pm
by Da_Hawks
Are we assuming the team for which they play for ONLY has those two starting? If so then Dubnyk... if not then Saros because he puts up better numbers when he does play... because well.. Dubnyk is bad at hockey.

Re: Dubnyk vs Saros

PostedCOLON Wed Jul 04, 2018 1:52 pm
by CasperX22
Da_Hawks wroteCOLONAre we assuming the team for which they play for ONLY has those two starting? If so then Dubnyk... if not then Saros because he puts up better numbers when he does play... because well.. Dubnyk is bad at hockey.
It's a fairly simple question. It's a matter of who you think is a more valuable player. Considering this is a dynasty league, talent, age, contract, situation, depth chart status, performance, etc everything should be considered.

Re: Dubnyk vs Saros

PostedCOLON Wed Jul 04, 2018 2:10 pm
by Matthew
I'd say dubnyk. If saros can take a starting job for a year and do well then him. But lots of part time goalies put up great stats, get a full time job, and crash.

Dubnyk has a great contract for what he currently brings to bbkl.

Re: Dubnyk vs Saros

PostedCOLON Wed Jul 04, 2018 2:11 pm
by Da_Hawks
Assuming Dubnyk still gets the lion's share of the starts, he has more value - and quite easily IMO. Saros is not guaranteed any starts. His age and team he plays behind plays against him in this case. Until a goalie is the starter, his value isn't worth what is being asked of IMO.

If Saros was the starter - his value is immense. But that won't be for another year or two. Until then, he's a really good backup with potential. Anyone who pays 7th overall + for him is crazy. Then again, I'm new.

Re: Dubnyk vs Saros

PostedCOLON Wed Jul 04, 2018 2:16 pm
by Lee
I'd pay it, just not 7th + another lottery pick + TT

Re: Dubnyk vs Saros

PostedCOLON Wed Jul 04, 2018 2:18 pm
by Matthew
Lee wroteCOLONI'd pay it, just not 7th + another lottery pick + TT
Yes, this seems insane. But its his goalie so he can do what he wants with it. Perhaps he actually wants to keep him and this is the price to make him move saros. Just means you can get a cheaper goalie elsewhere.

Re: Dubnyk vs Saros

PostedCOLON Wed Jul 04, 2018 2:20 pm
by CasperX22
Matthew wroteCOLON
Lee wroteCOLONI'd pay it, just not 7th + another lottery pick + TT
Yes, this seems insane. But its his goalie so he can do what he wants with it. Perhaps he actually wants to keep him and this is the price to make him move saros. Just means you can get a cheaper goalie elsewhere.
Or you guys can just miss goalie gp starts. That's another possibility.

Re: Dubnyk vs Saros

PostedCOLON Wed Jul 04, 2018 2:20 pm
by Lee
Matthew wroteCOLON
Lee wroteCOLONI'd pay it, just not 7th + another lottery pick + TT
Yes, this seems insane. But its his goalie so he can do what he wants with it. Perhaps he actually wants to keep him and this is the price to make him move saros. Just means you can get a cheaper goalie elsewhere.

You would think so, but I just got offered Pekka Rinne or Jacob Markstrom (from another GM that doesn't even own them) for Kotkaniemi

Re: Dubnyk vs Saros

PostedCOLON Wed Jul 04, 2018 2:21 pm
by Matthew
CasperX22 wroteCOLON
Matthew wroteCOLON
Lee wroteCOLONI'd pay it, just not 7th + another lottery pick + TT
Yes, this seems insane. But its his goalie so he can do what he wants with it. Perhaps he actually wants to keep him and this is the price to make him move saros. Just means you can get a cheaper goalie elsewhere.
Or you guys can just miss goalie gp starts. That's another possibility.
True. Although I'm not in the saros market so the point is mute.

Re: Dubnyk vs Saros

PostedCOLON Wed Jul 04, 2018 2:22 pm
by Bruyns
Lee wroteCOLON
Matthew wroteCOLON
Lee wroteCOLONI'd pay it, just not 7th + another lottery pick + TT
Yes, this seems insane. But its his goalie so he can do what he wants with it. Perhaps he actually wants to keep him and this is the price to make him move saros. Just means you can get a cheaper goalie elsewhere.

You would think so, but I just got offered Pekka Rinne or Jacob Markstrom (from another GM that doesn't even own them) for Kotkaniemi
I'd also trade you Ryan Miller for him.

Re: Dubnyk vs Saros

PostedCOLON Wed Jul 04, 2018 2:23 pm
by Matthew
Bruyns wroteCOLON
Lee wroteCOLON
Matthew wroteCOLON
Lee wroteCOLONI'd pay it, just not 7th + another lottery pick + TT
Yes, this seems insane. But its his goalie so he can do what he wants with it. Perhaps he actually wants to keep him and this is the price to make him move saros. Just means you can get a cheaper goalie elsewhere.

You would think so, but I just got offered Pekka Rinne or Jacob Markstrom (from another GM that doesn't even own them) for Kotkaniemi
I'd also trade you Ryan Miller for him.
Ben Scrivens also available if you can sweeten the deal a bit.

Re: Dubnyk vs Saros

PostedCOLON Wed Jul 04, 2018 2:24 pm
by CasperX22
Matthew wroteCOLON
CasperX22 wroteCOLON
Matthew wroteCOLON
Lee wroteCOLONI'd pay it, just not 7th + another lottery pick + TT
Yes, this seems insane. But its his goalie so he can do what he wants with it. Perhaps he actually wants to keep him and this is the price to make him move saros. Just means you can get a cheaper goalie elsewhere.
Or you guys can just miss goalie gp starts. That's another possibility.
True. Although I'm not in the saros market so the point is mute.
But I do assume you are in the goalie market.

Re: Dubnyk vs Saros

PostedCOLON Wed Jul 04, 2018 2:25 pm
by kyuss
I guess the difference between Markstrom/Rinne and Miller/Saros is that the firsts are starters whereas the latters are backups

Re: Dubnyk vs Saros

PostedCOLON Wed Jul 04, 2018 2:29 pm
by Lee
I like Markstrom but Josh has made it clear that Demko is not available so meh.

Re: Dubnyk vs Saros

PostedCOLON Wed Jul 04, 2018 2:29 pm
by Matthew
CasperX22 wroteCOLON
Matthew wroteCOLON
CasperX22 wroteCOLON
Matthew wroteCOLON
Lee wroteCOLONI'd pay it, just not 7th + another lottery pick + TT
Yes, this seems insane. But its his goalie so he can do what he wants with it. Perhaps he actually wants to keep him and this is the price to make him move saros. Just means you can get a cheaper goalie elsewhere.
Or you guys can just miss goalie gp starts. That's another possibility.
True. Although I'm not in the saros market so the point is mute.
But I do assume you are in the goalie market.
Not especially.

Re: Dubnyk vs Saros

PostedCOLON Wed Jul 04, 2018 2:32 pm
by CasperX22
Rolling with Domingue+Casey DeSmith? Bold strategy.

Re: Dubnyk vs Saros

PostedCOLON Wed Jul 04, 2018 2:32 pm
by Bruyns
You should be, I wouldn't want to miss out on a chance at Hughes.

Re: Dubnyk vs Saros

PostedCOLON Wed Jul 04, 2018 2:33 pm
by Da_Hawks
I did offer Lee Georgiev if he went out and acquired Hank, but that was a sound no. Doesn't seem like the options he likes are the options available. Gonna have to bit the bullet eventually.

Re: Dubnyk vs Saros

PostedCOLON Wed Jul 04, 2018 2:34 pm
by Matthew
CasperX22 wroteCOLONRolling with Domingue+Casey DeSmith? Bold strategy.
I think the goalie market isn't as bad as people think. Lots of people selling goalies and not a lot buying. I only need like 10 bad goalie gp. Eventually I may grab a cheap goalie, but not really interested atm. There is a ton of time.