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FLA/NYR

PostedCOLON Sun Nov 10, 2019 12:53 pm
by Florida Chris
To Florida

Shayne Gostisbehere


To New York Rangers

Alex Nylander
Sam Gagner
Thomas Hickey
2020 3rd rounder (Florida)
2020 6th rounder (St. Louis)

Re: FLA/NYR

PostedCOLON Sun Nov 10, 2019 1:34 pm
by KapG
Confirm

Re: FLA/NYR

PostedCOLON Sun Nov 10, 2019 1:37 pm
by Matthew
Sssmooth & Creammmy

Re: FLA/NYR

PostedCOLON Sun Nov 10, 2019 1:48 pm
by CasperX22
Like this one for Florida. This is a sell low for Ghost and buy high for Nylander.

Re: FLA/NYR

PostedCOLON Sun Nov 10, 2019 1:49 pm
by KapG
If nylander was still in Buffalo I don’t make this trade. Like him in Chicago and the trade makes me worse so here we are ;)

Re: FLA/NYR

PostedCOLON Sun Nov 10, 2019 8:51 pm
by Fraser
Hmm all kinds of risk all over the shop here.

Due to quantity I prob like it for NYR. Ghost is a bit of a depth risk with how Myers has come exploding out of the gate offensively for Philly, and could end up losing some of his offensive time.

Re: FLA/NYR

PostedCOLON Sun Nov 10, 2019 9:10 pm
by CasperX22
Fraser wroteCOLONHmm all kinds of risk all over the shop here.

Due to quantity I prob like it for NYR. Ghost is a bit of a depth risk with how Myers has come exploding out of the gate offensively for Philly, and could end up losing some of his offensive time.
There is literally 0 chance of Ghost losing PP time to Myers. Myers is at best the 5th option on D for PP time.

Re: FLA/NYR

PostedCOLON Sun Nov 10, 2019 9:44 pm
by Da_Hawks
CasperX22 wroteCOLON
Fraser wroteCOLONHmm all kinds of risk all over the shop here.

Due to quantity I prob like it for NYR. Ghost is a bit of a depth risk with how Myers has come exploding out of the gate offensively for Philly, and could end up losing some of his offensive time.
5th? Has to be higher than that with his recent play, no? Also, are you a Flyers fan?
There is literally 0 chance of Ghost losing PP time to Myers. Myers is at best the 5th option on D for PP time.

Re: FLA/NYR

PostedCOLON Sun Nov 10, 2019 10:01 pm
by CasperX22
Da_Hawks wroteCOLON
CasperX22 wroteCOLON
Fraser wroteCOLONHmm all kinds of risk all over the shop here.

Due to quantity I prob like it for NYR. Ghost is a bit of a depth risk with how Myers has come exploding out of the gate offensively for Philly, and could end up losing some of his offensive time.
5th? Has to be higher than that with his recent play, no? Also, are you a Flyers fan?
There is literally 0 chance of Ghost losing PP time to Myers. Myers is at best the 5th option on D for PP time.
Ghost, Provorov, Niskanen, Sanheim, then Myers.

He's a defensive defender that can skate. Couple of fluke goals aren't changing that.

Re: FLA/NYR

PostedCOLON Tue Nov 12, 2019 2:56 pm
by kimmer
yea lol. 5th for sure on depth. might wanna look beyond just stats on paper lol

Re: FLA/NYR

PostedCOLON Tue Nov 12, 2019 3:44 pm
by Da_Hawks
Interesting. Thought they would have him higher than Sanheim and Niskanen, but I do understand he's mostly a solid 2-way guy. Not sure where he ends up as a final pairing though.

Re: FLA/NYR

PostedCOLON Tue Nov 12, 2019 3:56 pm
by kimmer
in a flip of a switch come next season if sanheim doesn't continue to improve and Myers does, it could look different but until then

Re: FLA/NYR

PostedCOLON Tue Nov 12, 2019 4:10 pm
by CasperX22
kimmer wroteCOLONin a flip of a switch come next season if sanheim doesn't continue to improve and Myers does, it could look different but until then
It won't. The offensive part of Myers game is highly overrated.

Re: FLA/NYR

PostedCOLON Tue Nov 12, 2019 5:50 pm
by Da_Hawks
CasperX22 wroteCOLON
kimmer wroteCOLONin a flip of a switch come next season if sanheim doesn't continue to improve and Myers does, it could look different but until then
It won't. The offensive part of Myers game is highly overrated.
His recent goals were nice. I can see him having multiple 30 point seasons.

Re: FLA/NYR

PostedCOLON Tue Nov 12, 2019 6:41 pm
by CasperX22
Da_Hawks wroteCOLON
CasperX22 wroteCOLON
kimmer wroteCOLONin a flip of a switch come next season if sanheim doesn't continue to improve and Myers does, it could look different but until then
It won't. The offensive part of Myers game is highly overrated.
His recent goals were nice. I can see him having multiple 30 point seasons.
I'd bet against it. While Niskanen is a 2 year rental, Ghost, Provorov, Sanheim, and York aren't going anywhere anytime soon. He's not going to get PP time and aside from his high end neutral zone play and ability to deny controlled zone entries, he has been average at best in other categories and downright dreadful in others such as controlled exits.

Bottom line, he and Sanheim are likely long term 2nd pairing partners at ES given how well they complement each other and he will kill penalties. He profiles very similarly to Brayden Coburn back in the day without Coburn's physicality which isn't necessarily a bad thing.

Re: FLA/NYR

PostedCOLON Wed Nov 13, 2019 12:21 pm
by Da_Hawks
CasperX22 wroteCOLON
Da_Hawks wroteCOLON
CasperX22 wroteCOLON
kimmer wroteCOLONin a flip of a switch come next season if sanheim doesn't continue to improve and Myers does, it could look different but until then
It won't. The offensive part of Myers game is highly overrated.
His recent goals were nice. I can see him having multiple 30 point seasons.
I'd bet against it. While Niskanen is a 2 year rental, Ghost, Provorov, Sanheim, and York aren't going anywhere anytime soon. He's not going to get PP time and aside from his high end neutral zone play and ability to deny controlled zone entries, he has been average at best in other categories and downright dreadful in others such as controlled exits.

Bottom line, he and Sanheim are likely long term 2nd pairing partners at ES given how well they complement each other and he will kill penalties. He profiles very similarly to Brayden Coburn back in the day without Coburn's physicality which isn't necessarily a bad thing.
With all those Ghost trade rumours circling, he could be on the outs... he'll never man the PP1, but maybe a solid option on PP2 every now and then. I don`t think 30 points is out of the realm of possibility for him.

Re: FLA/NYR

PostedCOLON Wed Nov 13, 2019 12:43 pm
by CasperX22
He's been rumored to have been on the block for the past 3 years. I'll believe it when I see it. Even if I entertain the notion that he will be traded, then 2021 and beyond he still has Provorov, Sanheim, and York to go through for PP time. I don't know how many more ways I can spell this out. Could it happen? Sure. You could get hit by a flying turd when you walk outside today. Is it likely? Probably not.

Re: FLA/NYR

PostedCOLON Wed Nov 13, 2019 12:44 pm
by Da_Hawks
CasperX22 wroteCOLONHe's been rumored to have been on the block for the past 3 years. I'll believe it when I see it. Even if I entertain the notion that he will be traded, then 2021 and beyond he still has Provorov, Sanheim, and York to go through for PP time. I don't know how many more ways I can spell this out. Could it happen? Sure. You could get hit by a flying turd when you walk outside today. Is it likely? Probably not.
I prefer to be an optimist. You should take a page out that book sometimes. Must be tiring being Casper.

Re: FLA/NYR

PostedCOLON Wed Nov 13, 2019 12:51 pm
by CasperX22
I prefer to be a realist.

Re: FLA/NYR

PostedCOLON Wed Nov 13, 2019 1:28 pm
by Da_Hawks
CasperX22 wroteCOLONI prefer to be a realist.
You cannot be a realist when projecting potential. It's either you are bearish or bullish, because it's impossible for you to know 100% what any player will become.